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Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:00 pm**

Begbie wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 10:45 am I think this will be a fairly comfortable win for Wales.

Happy to be wrong. Get it up ye.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:00 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:59 pm
Big D wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:58 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:57 pm 29-17 FT
Amazing 2nd half from Pumas.
Wales just fell apart.
Two average teams who did what they had to do to get to the QFs but Argentina won't worry the winners of tonight's game.
Worst side left in the comp. And that includes Eng.

They care not a jot.

Winners are grinners.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:01 pm**

Great win by the Pumas. At least 1 SH team in the semi finals.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:02 pm**

I am a happy person right now.

May the second game tonight see another SH to through.

3 out of 4 SH teams in the semis will be great.

Pity our Aussie brothers couldn't help us make it 4 out of 4.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:02 pm**

OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:01 pm Great win by the Pumas. At least 1 SH team in the semi finals.

Let it continue

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:02 pm**

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:00 pm
Big D wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:00 pm Another week until Edinburgh get the Boff back.

Just the one, though

Balls it is actually 2. Stupid "bronze final".

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:03 pm**

el capitan wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:57 pm Banter quarterfinal, banter result. Lovely.

Missing Refry with his usual "fuck the neutrals" though, which was a bit disappointing

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:03 pm**

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:59 pm Steaks and Malbec all round then.

Don’t mind if I do.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:04 pm**

Best team won. But tbh I have never seen a head shot like that not penalised internationally
It's a new one on me. Has a TMO for a head shot been ignored before today at this RWC?

Wales and Argentina were very poor today and it was terrible rugby.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:04 pm**

troglodiet wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:02 pm I am a happy person right now.

May the second game tonight see another SH to through.

3 out of 4 SH teams in the semis will be great.

Pity our Aussie brothers couldn't help us make it 4 out of 4.

Argentina, SA and Fiji?

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:09 pm**

Loved that then. Quick sniff of the nappies. Takes me back.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:12 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:59 pm
Big D wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:58 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:57 pm 29-17 FT
Amazing 2nd half from Pumas.
Wales just fell apart.
Two average teams who did what they had to do to get to the QFs but Argentina won't worry the winners of tonight's game.
Worst side left in the comp. And that includes Eng.

Which England? Cause the side Borthwick selected for tomorrow is definitely worse.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:13 pm**

Line6 HXFX wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 12:37 pm Five areas... when you know Wales are shit they lose.

Areas that always let us down.

Areas where if we were just normal at them, bog standard, or could defend it..we would be about 30% better.
But we never can.

1) Accepting the restart. We fuck this up, against proper teams we lose. End of. If we are 10 minutes into the game and we are dropping restarts, just save yourself the misery and go watch Emerdale. It will be an all game long thing.

2) rushing passes, passes not going to hand or over running the distributer...if we start doing this, its no Bueno.

3) winning own lineouts in the oppositions 22. When we can't do this, it's just fucked.

4) the ref not spotting the opposition backrow trying to swing around the scrum. The opposition start getting away with this and it always ends badly for us.

5) just the opposition finding their shit by kicking for territory in the second half...off 12 or 13. Centres that can kick just, do us. We have never been able to cope with teams that can use this.

There you go. Areas our professional rugby players, who are paid to do this game btw, paid to train at it...can't seem to get around perfecting.

Whoever wrote this, really knows his shit...

Congrats Argentina. Love the festival of joy amd atmosphere your supporters bring.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:14 pm**

petej wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:12 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:59 pm
Big D wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:58 pm

Two average teams who did what they had to do to get to the QFs but Argentina won't worry the winners of tonight's game.
Worst side left in the comp. And that includes Eng.
Which England? Cause the side Borthwick selected for tomorrow is definitely worse.

The only side I’ve seen worse than this England side were Sorries last night.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:14 pm**

C69 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:48 pmTackles in the air

Yeah, great hit that. Game saver.

Why did the Wales guy try to Hollywood it when a slide in was called for

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:15 pm**

Gumboot wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:04 pm
troglodiet wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:02 pm I am a happy person right now.

May the second game tonight see another SH to through.

3 out of 4 SH teams in the semis will be great.

Pity our Aussie brothers couldn't help us make it 4 out of 4.
Argentina, SA and Fiji?

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:17 pm**

Wales missed Faletau even though i rate the other players in that backrow. Kind of an underappreciated rock or glue in the wales team.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:18 pm**

Enzedder wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:14 pm
C69 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:48 pmTackles in the air
Yeah, great hit that. Game saver.

Why did the Wales guy try to Hollywood it when a slide in was called for

I think he would have been in touch with a slide. But hey inches away.
2 poor teams tbh. I am now Irish for the next 2 weeks.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:19 pm**

Agree with that Doc. I have a feeling I will be as well in a few hours (after ringing Mrs Enz's unle in Cork for a ribbing)

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:19 pm**

Gumboot wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:04 pm
troglodiet wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:02 pm I am a happy person right now.

May the second game tonight see another SH to through.

3 out of 4 SH teams in the semis will be great.

Pity our Aussie brothers couldn't help us make it 4 out of 4.
Argentina, SA and Fiji?

I forgot Fiji is playing England.

So 4 out of 4 it is then.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:23 pm**

petej wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:17 pm Wales missed Faletau even though i rate the other players in that backrow. Kind of an underappreciated rock or glue in the wales team.

They missed Anscombe more. Costello is shit. Bigger would have been replaced much earlier if Anscombe was fit.
But yes Faletau may hàve given Wales much more balance.
Tha said Argentina deserved a win

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:23 pm**

Just seen the result. Well done, argies!!!

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:23 pm**

Big D wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:02 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:00 pm
Big D wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:00 pm Another week until Edinburgh get the Boff back.

Just the one, though
Balls it is actually 2. Stupid "bronze final".

That's a pita

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:25 pm**

C69 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:04 pm Best team won. But tbh I have never seen a head shot like that not penalised internationally
It's a new one on me. Has a TMO for a head shot been ignored before today at this RWC?

Wales and Argentina were very poor today and it was terrible rugby.

It was reviewed by the TMO and was deemed (rightly in my view) to be a rugby incident.

Argentinian went in at the right height, so perfectly legally, then Tompins height dropped suddenly, no opportunity for the Argentiian player to readjust.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:30 pm**

ASMO wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:25 pm
C69 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:04 pm Best team won. But tbh I have never seen a head shot like that not penalised internationally
It's a new one on me. Has a TMO for a head shot been ignored before today at this RWC?

Wales and Argentina were very poor today and it was terrible rugby.
It was reviewed by the TMO and was deemed (rightly in my view) to be a rugby incident.

Argentinian went in at the right height, so perfectly legally, then Tompins height dropped suddenly, no opportunity for the Argentiian player to readjust.

I am not too sure it was the right call it was certainly dangerous.
But has a head shot been reversed?
Never seen such a incident not being penalised.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:33 pm**

C69 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:23 pm
petej wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:17 pm Wales missed Faletau even though i rate the other players in that backrow. Kind of an underappreciated rock or glue in the wales team.
They missed Anscombe more. Costello is shit. Bigger would have been replaced much earlier if Anscombe was fit.
But yes Faletau may hàve given Wales much more balance.
Tha said Argentina deserved a win

Costello is a decent talent but too early for him. Anscombe was missed he has always played flatter than Biggar and is a better attacking 10.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:34 pm**

C69 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:30 pm
ASMO wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:25 pm
C69 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:04 pm Best team won. But tbh I have never seen a head shot like that not penalised internationally
It's a new one on me. Has a TMO for a head shot been ignored before today at this RWC?

Wales and Argentina were very poor today and it was terrible rugby.
It was reviewed by the TMO and was deemed (rightly in my view) to be a rugby incident.

Argentinian went in at the right height, so perfectly legally, then Tompins height dropped suddenly, no opportunity for the Argentiian player to readjust.
I am not too sure it was the right call it was certainly dangerous.
But has a head shot been reversed?
Never seen such a incident not being penalised.

I know what you mean but I haven't seen one where the player has put himself in a position for a legal entry and the other players height has dropped so quickly.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:36 pm**

The best result for rugby, this was in danger of becoming known as The Welsh World Cup for all the wrong reasons.

Head shot was how it should be reffed, but I’d be a little annoyed as it hasn’t been until today. Still, I’ve often called Wales the chavs of world rugby and the really proved it in the 10 minutes after, if they had spent more time defending instead of moaning and jumping about they might have seen them off.

3 WC semi finals for Argentine, that’s quite a record for a country we still all slightly look down on in rugby terms

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:36 pm**

petej wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:33 pm
C69 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:23 pm
petej wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:17 pm Wales missed Faletau even though i rate the other players in that backrow. Kind of an underappreciated rock or glue in the wales team.
They missed Anscombe more. Costello is shit. Bigger would have been replaced much earlier if Anscombe was fit.
But yes Faletau may hàve given Wales much more balance.
Tha said Argentina deserved a win
Costello is a decent talent but too early for him. Anscombe was missed he has always played flatter than Biggar and is a better attacking 10.

I have seen him from age grade and rarely rated him.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:44 pm**

Enzedder wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:14 pm
C69 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:48 pmTackles in the air
Yeah, great hit that. Game saver.

Why did the Wales guy try to Hollywood it when a slide in was called for

Because (whisper it) Louis Rees Zammit isn't as good as the Welsh hype him up to be.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:46 pm**

Tichtheid wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:23 pm
Big D wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:02 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:00 pm

Just the one, though
Balls it is actually 2. Stupid "bronze final".

That's a pita

He plays for Argentine, not Chilli

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:50 pm**

Biffer wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:44 pm
Enzedder wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:14 pm
C69 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:48 pmTackles in the air
Yeah, great hit that. Game saver.

Why did the Wales guy try to Hollywood it when a slide in was called for
Because (whisper it) Louis Rees Zammit isn't as good as the Welsh hype him up to be.

This.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:54 pm**

Slick wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:50 pm
Biffer wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:44 pm
Enzedder wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:14 pm

Yeah, great hit that. Game saver.

Why did the Wales guy try to Hollywood it when a slide in was called for
Because (whisper it) Louis Rees Zammit isn't as good as the Welsh hype him up to be.
This.

I kind of agree, he has some pace about him but I'd be very surprised if he is, as ITV claimed the other day, the quickest player at the World Cup.

His defence isn't the best.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:05 pm**

Slick wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:50 pm
Biffer wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:44 pm
Enzedder wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:14 pm

Yeah, great hit that. Game saver.

Why did the Wales guy try to Hollywood it when a slide in was called for
Because (whisper it) Louis Rees Zammit isn't as good as the Welsh hype him up to be.
This.

Who has hyped him?
He is no Darcy Graham or Shane Williams.
The wanking over him today was pathetic

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:08 pm**

Biffer wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:44 pm
Enzedder wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:14 pm
C69 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 4:48 pmTackles in the air
Yeah, great hit that. Game saver.

Why did the Wales guy try to Hollywood it when a slide in was called for
Because (whisper it) Louis Rees Zammit isn't as good as the Welsh hype him up to be.

To be fair I think it is more the ITV/TNT premiership TV comms and presenters that talk him up.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:09 pm**

C69 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:05 pm
Slick wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:50 pm
Biffer wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:44 pm

Because (whisper it) Louis Rees Zammit isn't as good as the Welsh hype him up to be.
This.
Who has hyped him?
He is no Darcy Graham or Shane Williams.
The wanking over him today was pathetic

Have you not just answered your own question?

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:11 pm**

Can't blame people for trying to find some star dust to talk up in that side. Same goes for Jac Morgan being talked up as player of the tournament, he was massively outplayed today and Argentina were a big step up from anything Wales faced in the group stage.

Pleased for Argentina who really let themselves down against England and looked like they were going to crash out. Incredible support for them, and after that Adams cheap shot went almost unpunished I feared the worst, but they deservedly won it comfortably in the end.

Really entertaining game and Wales will take heart going into the 6N.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:17 pm**

Well done Argentina, better team on the day.

I've watched a lot of rugby this year and have never seen a players head go back like after contact with a shoulder and that and not be penalised, the HIA after wards was necessary. It was such a pivotal moment.

Frustrating as I felt Wales never got out of 3rd gear but I'm pleased we got out of the group which didn't seem likely a few months ago.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:24 pm**

ASMO wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:25 pm
C69 wrote: Sat Oct 14, 2023 5:04 pm Best team won. But tbh I have never seen a head shot like that not penalised internationally
It's a new one on me. Has a TMO for a head shot been ignored before today at this RWC?

Wales and Argentina were very poor today and it was terrible rugby.
It was reviewed by the TMO and was deemed (rightly in my view) to be a rugby incident.

Argentinian went in at the right height, so perfectly legally, then Tompins height dropped suddenly, no opportunity for the Argentiian player to readjust.

It was contact with the head, with a shoulder and no arms, Tomkins head snapped back. How many tackles have we seen where the player has done nothing that wrong and still been pinged. Perfectly legal, right.

Posted: **Sat Oct 14, 2023 6:37 pm**

It wasn't a tackle. It was a clean out that would've been textbook had Tompkins not dropped like a stone. There really was nothing the player did wrong and nothing he could've done differently given the information he had.

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