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Re: Scotland vs Wallabies
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 6:52 pm
by SaintK
BagfordViper wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 6:50 pm
Not a PR refugee, other than in witnessing its forum degenerate to the pointlessness.
And no longer resident in Glasgow, but always Glaswegian. I did work in Edinburgh for a few years, but always saw it essentially as missionary work.
Welcome
Re: Scotland vs Wallabies
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:26 pm
by Jethro
Did the light at the end of the tunnel just dim a little for Wobs supporters
Well played Scotland, more committed and playing better rugby.
Re: Scotland vs Wallabies
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:21 pm
by Tichtheid
Aye, we let Glaswegians come in out of the rain to Edinburgh for a while.
Re: Scotland vs Wallabies
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:24 pm
by clydecloggie
Jethro wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:26 pm
Did the light at the end of the tunnel just dim a little for Wobs supporters
Well played Scotland, more committed and playing better rugby.
Nah, they're still miles better than in the RWC. Joe Schmidt doing well. Scotland at Murrayfield is not an easy place to win.
Re: Scotland vs Wallabies
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:23 pm
by Biffer
clydecloggie wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:24 pm
Jethro wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:26 pm
Did the light at the end of the tunnel just dim a little for Wobs supporters
Well played Scotland, more committed and playing better rugby.
Nah, they're still miles better than in the RWC. Joe Schmidt doing well. Scotland at Murrayfield is not an easy place to win.
Nice being able to say that, isn’t it?
Re: Scotland vs Wallabies
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:43 pm
by clydecloggie
Biffer wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:23 pm
clydecloggie wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:24 pm
Jethro wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 8:26 pm
Did the light at the end of the tunnel just dim a little for Wobs supporters
Well played Scotland, more committed and playing better rugby.
Nah, they're still miles better than in the RWC. Joe Schmidt doing well. Scotland at Murrayfield is not an easy place to win.
Nice being able to say that, isn’t it?
Makes for a nice change, but it's only still true for certain teams (fortunately including England these days). NZ, SA, Ireland and Italy don't seem to have too much trouble with it.
Re: Scotland vs Wallabies
Posted: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:50 pm
by Tichtheid
clydecloggie wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:43 pm
Biffer wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:23 pm
clydecloggie wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 9:24 pm
Nah, they're still miles better than in the RWC. Joe Schmidt doing well. Scotland at Murrayfield is not an easy place to win.
Nice being able to say that, isn’t it?
Makes for a nice change, but it's only still true for certain teams (fortunately including England these days). NZ, SA, Ireland and Italy don't seem to have too much trouble with it.
Italy?
They beaten us twice in Edinburgh in the pro era - 2007 and 2015. Since 2015 we've won 13/14 home and away.
Re: Scotland vs Wallabies
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 12:29 pm
by Yr Alban
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:50 pm
clydecloggie wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:43 pm
Biffer wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:23 pm
Nice being able to say that, isn’t it?
Makes for a nice change, but it's only still true for certain teams (fortunately including England these days). NZ, SA, Ireland and Italy don't seem to have too much trouble with it.
Italy?
They beaten us twice in Edinburgh in the pro era - 2007 and 2015. Since 2015 we've won 13/14 home and away.
And 2007 was probably when our low period bottomed out, with Phil Godman throwing three interceptions in the first 20 mins. Or something like that - the passage of time has dulled the details but not the pain.
Re: Scotland vs Wallabies
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 12:41 pm
by Yr Alban
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:50 pm
clydecloggie wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:43 pm
Biffer wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:23 pm
Nice being able to say that, isn’t it?
Makes for a nice change, but it's only still true for certain teams (fortunately including England these days). NZ, SA, Ireland and Italy don't seem to have too much trouble with it.
Italy?
They beaten us twice in Edinburgh in the pro era - 2007 and 2015. Since 2015 we've won 13/14 home and away.
Also worth observing that neither NZ nor Ireland have had an easy time at Murrayfield in recent years. NZ have won by 8 pts in 2014, 5 pts in 2017 and 8 pts in 2022. Scotland beat Ireland in 2017, and lost by 9 in 2019, 3 in 2021 and 15 (the one slightly bigger win) in 2023. You have to go back to 2012 for NZ (22-51) and 2015 for Ireland (10-40) to find a match where we didn’t challenge them at all.
Re: Scotland vs Wallabies
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 12:42 pm
by Lobby
Yr Alban wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 12:29 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:50 pm
clydecloggie wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:43 pm
Makes for a nice change, but it's only still true for certain teams (fortunately including England these days). NZ, SA, Ireland and Italy don't seem to have too much trouble with it.
Italy?
They beaten us twice in Edinburgh in the pro era - 2007 and 2015. Since 2015 we've won 13/14 home and away.
And 2007 was probably when our low period bottomed out, with Phil Godman throwing three interceptions in the first 20 mins. Or something like that - the passage of time has dulled the details but not the pain.
It was Chris Cusiter who threw the interceptions. Phil Godman had an 'ambitious' chip kick charged down. Together they gifted Italy 21 points in the first 10 minutes. I was going out that evening so didn't see it live, but can remember checking the score on my phone shortly after kick off and saw that Italy were leading 21 - 0 and just thought WTF!
Re: Scotland vs Wallabies
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 12:46 pm
by Biffer
Lobby wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 12:42 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 12:29 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:50 pm
Italy?
They beaten us twice in Edinburgh in the pro era - 2007 and 2015. Since 2015 we've won 13/14 home and away.
And 2007 was probably when our low period bottomed out, with Phil Godman throwing three interceptions in the first 20 mins. Or something like that - the passage of time has dulled the details but not the pain.
It was Chris Cusiter who threw the interceptions. Phil Godman had an 'ambitious' chip kick charged down. Together they gifted Italy 21 points in the first 10 minutes. I was going out that evening so didn't see it live, but can remember checking the score on my phone shortly after kick off and saw that Italy were leading 21 - 0 and just thought WTF!
Me and my mate were late. Got to our seats at seven minutes gone, asked the bloke next to me if there was something wrong with the scoreboard.
Re: Scotland vs Wallabies
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 1:05 pm
by Tichtheid
Biffer wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 12:46 pm
Lobby wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 12:42 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 12:29 pm
And 2007 was probably when our low period bottomed out, with Phil Godman throwing three interceptions in the first 20 mins. Or something like that - the passage of time has dulled the details but not the pain.
It was Chris Cusiter who threw the interceptions. Phil Godman had an 'ambitious' chip kick charged down. Together they gifted Italy 21 points in the first 10 minutes. I was going out that evening so didn't see it live, but can remember checking the score on my phone shortly after kick off and saw that Italy were leading 21 - 0 and just thought WTF!
Me and my mate were late. Got to our seats at seven minutes gone, asked the bloke next to me if there was something wrong with the scoreboard.
I was working, my Welsh mate kept texting "WTF?" type messages - not rubbing it in, genuine concern :-D
Re: Scotland vs Wallabies
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 4:34 pm
by Yr Alban
Lobby wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 12:42 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 12:29 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:50 pm
Italy?
They beaten us twice in Edinburgh in the pro era - 2007 and 2015. Since 2015 we've won 13/14 home and away.
And 2007 was probably when our low period bottomed out, with Phil Godman throwing three interceptions in the first 20 mins. Or something like that - the passage of time has dulled the details but not the pain.
It was Chris Cusiter who threw the interceptions. Phil Godman had an 'ambitious' chip kick charged down. Together they gifted Italy 21 points in the first 10 minutes. I was going out that evening so didn't see it live, but can remember checking the score on my phone shortly after kick off and saw that Italy were leading 21 - 0 and just thought WTF!
Like I said, the memory is rusty. It was hands down the most bizarre game I’ve ever watched. What made it even weirder was that Cusiter was actually a genuinely good player - one of the few decent backs we had at the time. I’d say it was a freak result, but sadly we really were in a hole at the time.
Re: Scotland vs Wallabies
Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:42 pm
by Jethro
Yr Alban wrote: Thu Nov 28, 2024 12:41 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:50 pm
clydecloggie wrote: Wed Nov 27, 2024 10:43 pm
Makes for a nice change, but it's only still true for certain teams (fortunately including England these days). NZ, SA, Ireland and Italy don't seem to have too much trouble with it.
Italy?
They beaten us twice in Edinburgh in the pro era - 2007 and 2015. Since 2015 we've won 13/14 home and away.
Also worth observing that neither NZ nor Ireland have had an easy time at Murrayfield in recent years. NZ have won by 8 pts in 2014, 5 pts in 2017 and 8 pts in 2022. Scotland beat Ireland in 2017, and lost by 9 in 2019, 3 in 2021 and 15 (the one slightly bigger win) in 2023. You have to go back to 2012 for NZ (22-51) and 2015 for Ireland (10-40) to find a match where we didn’t challenge them at all.
Have a vague memory of a drawn test between NZ and Scotland, though when that happened escapes me ... 1983, thank you google.