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Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun May 18, 2025 5:47 am
by Raggs
Brazil wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 8:24 pm
duke wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 8:15 pm
SaintK wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 7:49 pm
Haven’t watched it yet
Was Carley reffing
Luke Pearce - the decision was mind boggling to be fair
Pearce had a poor day. The knock on non try and the. Tackle in the air were poor, as was some of his behaviour when Sarries were fucking about terribly in the ruck. As it was it all balanced out for once. Sarries have nothing to complain about. He's a good ref generally so I'm guessing he had an off day, not helped by his TMO.
Tackle in the air should have been a penalty try and yellow.
The massive chase from Seabrook should have been a penalty try as well. He's tackled and caused to knock out on by a player on the floor attempting to tackle him.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun May 18, 2025 10:31 am
by SaintK
Still haven't seen the match. Hopefully catch up later this afternoon.
On the down side. Am hearing that Augustus is definitely out of the final next week. He had an enormous match against Leinster and will be missed.
Hopefuliy the four who came off injured yesterday are not too serious
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun May 18, 2025 11:16 am
by Tichtheid
I signed up for PR tv so I can catch up on highlights, is it normal that the player doesn't go into full screen?
Having watched the highlights, I don't know why one of the Saints' tries was chalked off, but the decision was evened up at the end - it definitely looked forward from the angels shown.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun May 18, 2025 11:46 am
by duke
Tichtheid wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 11:16 am
I signed up for PR tv so I can catch up on highlights, is it normal that the player doesn't go into full screen?
Having watched the highlights, I don't know why one of the Saints' tries was chalked off, but the decision was evened up at the end - it definitely looked forward from the angels shown.
If it was Alex Cole’s’ attempt in the corner, they ruled that he lost control of the ball in the act of scoring
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun May 18, 2025 12:01 pm
by Tichtheid
duke wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 11:46 am
Tichtheid wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 11:16 am
I signed up for PR tv so I can catch up on highlights, is it normal that the player doesn't go into full screen?
Having watched the highlights, I don't know why one of the Saints' tries was chalked off, but the decision was evened up at the end - it definitely looked forward from the angels shown.
If it was Alex Cole’s’ attempt in the corner, they ruled that he lost control of the ball in the act of scoring
Yeah, the ref said that, it's just that there's nothing I can see in the laws about being in control of the ball - this has been a bit of a bugbear of mine for years
https://passport.world.rugby/laws-of-th ... 8-scoring/
They didn't show many angles on the game highlights reel, mind.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun May 18, 2025 12:11 pm
by sockwithaticket
Last run out at the Stoop for Danny Care today. Obviously he started off at Leeds, but he moved on pretty early and after 19 seasons(!) in a quartered jersey he's very firmly Mr. Quins. That sort of run at a single club is pretty unusual these days.
He's been at the heart of Quins greatest modern moments and I'd say a big asset to the league in general, scoring a bunch of great tries and some unexpected drop goals, buying into the ethos of a team that wants to entertain first and foremost. Sometimes to their detriment. He's also given fun moments like leading a season yellow card chart for a series of fairly innocuous offences (not being back 10, team yellow rather than foul play).
Playing this Exeter side should give Quins the opportunity for a perfect home send off.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun May 18, 2025 12:24 pm
by SaintK
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 12:11 pm
Last run out at the Stoop for Danny Care today. Obviously he started off at Leeds, but he moved on pretty early and after 19 seasons(!) in a quartered jersey he's very firmly Mr. Quins. That sort of run at a single club is pretty unusual these days.
He's been at the heart of Quins greatest modern moments and I'd say a big asset to the league in general, scoring a bunch of great tries and some unexpected drop goals, buying into the ethos of a team that wants to entertain first and foremost. Sometimes to their detriment. He's also given fun moments like leading a season yellow card chart for a series of fairly innocuous offences (not being back 10, team yellow rather than foul play).
Playing this Exeter side should give Quins the opportunity for a perfect home send off.
I first saw him playing for England U19's in the early 2000's. He was as nippy as a Fox Terriier and was kicking goals then as well.
Great servant for Quins and England. Hopefully he doesn't disappear as he comes over extremely well on TV
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun May 18, 2025 12:36 pm
by ASMO
SaintK wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 12:24 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 12:11 pm
Last run out at the Stoop for Danny Care today. Obviously he started off at Leeds, but he moved on pretty early and after 19 seasons(!) in a quartered jersey he's very firmly Mr. Quins. That sort of run at a single club is pretty unusual these days.
He's been at the heart of Quins greatest modern moments and I'd say a big asset to the league in general, scoring a bunch of great tries and some unexpected drop goals, buying into the ethos of a team that wants to entertain first and foremost. Sometimes to their detriment. He's also given fun moments like leading a season yellow card chart for a series of fairly innocuous offences (not being back 10, team yellow rather than foul play).
Playing this Exeter side should give Quins the opportunity for a perfect home send off.
I first saw him playing for England U19's in the early 2000's. He was as nippy as a Fox Terriier and was kicking goals then as well.
Great servant for Quins and England. Hopefully he doesn't disappear as he comes over extremely well on TV
An ideal replacement for that prick Healey
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun May 18, 2025 2:09 pm
by Kawazaki
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 12:11 pm
Last run out at the Stoop for Danny Care today. Obviously he started off at Leeds, but he moved on pretty early and after 19 seasons(!) in a quartered jersey he's very firmly Mr. Quins. That sort of run at a single club is pretty unusual these days.
He's been at the heart of Quins greatest modern moments and I'd say a big asset to the league in general, scoring a bunch of great tries and some unexpected drop goals, buying into the ethos of a team that wants to entertain first and foremost. Sometimes to their detriment. He's also given fun moments like leading a season yellow card chart for a series of fairly innocuous offences (not being back 10, team yellow rather than foul play).
Playing this Exeter side should give Quins the opportunity for a perfect home send off.
I don't remember you posting a similar post about Alex Goode last weekend playing his 400th match for Saracens.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun May 18, 2025 2:44 pm
by ASMO
Quins already on the beach it seems, so so sloppy, this typifies their whole season.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun May 18, 2025 2:55 pm
by sockwithaticket
Exeter do look to have pulled themselves together a bit, but Quins definitely look like they could be taking the match more seriously.
Kawazaki wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 2:09 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 12:11 pm
Last run out at the Stoop for Danny Care today. Obviously he started off at Leeds, but he moved on pretty early and after 19 seasons(!) in a quartered jersey he's very firmly Mr. Quins. That sort of run at a single club is pretty unusual these days.
He's been at the heart of Quins greatest modern moments and I'd say a big asset to the league in general, scoring a bunch of great tries and some unexpected drop goals, buying into the ethos of a team that wants to entertain first and foremost. Sometimes to their detriment. He's also given fun moments like leading a season yellow card chart for a series of fairly innocuous offences (not being back 10, team yellow rather than foul play).
Playing this Exeter side should give Quins the opportunity for a perfect home send off.
I don't remember you posting a similar post about Alex Goode last weekend playing his 400th match for Saracens.
I didn't do it for Courtney Lawes last season either. What's your point?
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun May 18, 2025 7:36 pm
by Kawazaki
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 2:55 pm
Exeter do look to have pulled themselves together a bit, but Quins definitely look like they could be taking the match more seriously.
Kawazaki wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 2:09 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 12:11 pm
Last run out at the Stoop for Danny Care today. Obviously he started off at Leeds, but he moved on pretty early and after 19 seasons(!) in a quartered jersey he's very firmly Mr. Quins. That sort of run at a single club is pretty unusual these days.
He's been at the heart of Quins greatest modern moments and I'd say a big asset to the league in general, scoring a bunch of great tries and some unexpected drop goals, buying into the ethos of a team that wants to entertain first and foremost. Sometimes to their detriment. He's also given fun moments like leading a season yellow card chart for a series of fairly innocuous offences (not being back 10, team yellow rather than foul play).
Playing this Exeter side should give Quins the opportunity for a perfect home send off.
I don't remember you posting a similar post about Alex Goode last weekend playing his 400th match for Saracens.
I didn't do it for Courtney Lawes last season either. What's your point?
What's your point is more the question. What's so special about Danny Care?
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 12:23 pm
by Kawazaki
Fairly apt that Danny Care finished his rugby career with a complete brain fart fuck up.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 2:43 pm
by SaintK
Kawazaki wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 7:36 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 2:55 pm
Exeter do look to have pulled themselves together a bit, but Quins definitely look like they could be taking the match more seriously.
Kawazaki wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 2:09 pm
I don't remember you posting a similar post about Alex Goode last weekend playing his 400th match for Saracens.
I didn't do it for Courtney Lawes last season either. What's your point?
What's your point is more the question. What's so special about Danny Care?
Very good scrum half, 100 caps, 18 years at Quins.
I'm sure we will post the same for Alex Goode when he retires
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 4:27 pm
by sockwithaticket
Kawazaki wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 7:36 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 2:55 pm
Exeter do look to have pulled themselves together a bit, but Quins definitely look like they could be taking the match more seriously.
Kawazaki wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 2:09 pm
I don't remember you posting a similar post about Alex Goode last weekend playing his 400th match for Saracens.
I didn't do it for Courtney Lawes last season either. What's your point?
What's your point is more the question. What's so special about Danny Care?
Start a fight in a fucking phonebox wouldn't you.
I'm not the bored archivist and commissioned to write a retrospective for any stalwart club man drawing time on their career.
I was sat down at my computer for longer before the game than I usually am and decided to post something about a player I've enjoyed watching down the years. It's really not that deep.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 6:03 pm
by Kawazaki
sockwithaticket wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 4:27 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 7:36 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 2:55 pm
Exeter do look to have pulled themselves together a bit, but Quins definitely look like they could be taking the match more seriously.
I didn't do it for Courtney Lawes last season either. What's your point?
What's your point is more the question. What's so special about Danny Care?
Start a fight in a fucking phonebox wouldn't you.
I'm not the bored archivist and commissioned to write a retrospective for any stalwart club man drawing time on their career.
I was sat down at my computer for longer before the game than I usually am and decided to post something about a player I've enjoyed watching down the years. It's really not that deep.
Meh.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 6:13 pm
by Punter15
sockwithaticket wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 4:27 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 7:36 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 2:55 pm
Exeter do look to have pulled themselves together a bit, but Quins definitely look like they could be taking the match more seriously.
I didn't do it for Courtney Lawes last season either. What's your point?
What's your point is more the question. What's so special about Danny Care?
Start a fight in a fucking phonebox wouldn't you.
I'm not the bored archivist and commissioned to write a retrospective for any stalwart club man drawing time on their career.
I was sat down at my computer for longer before the game than I usually am and decided to post something about a player I've enjoyed watching down the years. It's really not that deep.
You are forgetting the golden rule of not engaging with those that choose to be thought of as cūnts than not thought of at all.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Mon May 19, 2025 6:48 pm
by Kawazaki
Punter15 wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 6:13 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Mon May 19, 2025 4:27 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Sun May 18, 2025 7:36 pm
What's your point is more the question. What's so special about Danny Care?
Start a fight in a fucking phonebox wouldn't you.
I'm not the bored archivist and commissioned to write a retrospective for any stalwart club man drawing time on their career.
I was sat down at my computer for longer before the game than I usually am and decided to post something about a player I've enjoyed watching down the years. It's really not that deep.
You are forgetting the golden rule of not engaging with those that choose to be thought of as cūnts than not thought of at all.
My shadow arrives.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 10:35 am
by sockwithaticket
Preliminary England training squad. No Bath or Saints players due to their European finals this weekend.

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 11:41 am
by Brazil
There's a bloody good team in there even without the Bath and Tampon players.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 11:47 am
by Kawazaki
1. Rodd
2. George
3. Fasogbon
4. Isiekwe
5. Batley
6. Kenningham
7. Curry
8. Willis
9. van Poortvliet
10. Ford
11. Roebuck
12. S. Atkinson
13. Ma’asi-White
14. Elliott
15. Carpenter
16. Dan
17. Baxter
18. Opoku-Fordjour
19. Clark
20. Ilione
21. Randall
22. C. Atkinson
23. Roebuck
No Bath or Saints players in the squad - assume they will join up later.
Hill, Underhill, Spencer would all be in the 23.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 12:06 pm
by SaintK
Kawazaki wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 11:47 am
1. Rodd
2. George
3. Fasogbon
4. Isiekwe
5. Batley
6. Kenningham
7. Curry
8. Willis
9. van Poortvliet
10. Ford
11. Roebuck
12. S. Atkinson
13. Ma’asi-White
14. Elliott
15. Carpenter
16. Dan
17. Baxter
18. Opoku-Fordjour
19. Clark
20. Ilione
21. Randall
22. C. Atkinson
23. Roebuck
No Bath or Saints players in the squad - assume they will join up later.
Hill, Underhill, Spencer would all be in the 23.
..............as would Dingwall
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 12:58 pm
by Oxbow
Coles and Langdon should be too.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 1:03 pm
by duke
Oxbow wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 12:58 pm
Coles and Langdon should be too.
As an aside, are they likely to be fit for Saturday?
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 1:04 pm
by sockwithaticket
Not too much to complain about there, anyone you might have expected to be there not involved in the finals is injured (Cunningham- South, Furbank)
Pleased that Seb Atkinson's getting a look and his club mate Clark should get a good run at lock in the absence of our usual suspects. Goodness knows we need to unearth some new ones to add depth. I do not like the idea that Cunningham-South and T. Hill are our cover there for international games.
Seems a bit premature and unnecessary to bring Feyi-Waboso in with how long he's been out. Would've thought he'd benefit more from a proper pre-season than being brought into England's summer plans. It's not like there's a lack of depth in the back three and he's irreplaceably good. Radwan's on fire at the moment.
Perhaps it's just that I haven't watched Leicester enough, but I've only seen Ilione come of the bench this season and he wasn't involved in the A team during the Six Nations, so his elevation is a bit of a surprise. Capstick was involved with the A's, but i don't really see the international quality in him tbh. Definitely expect them to make way for Hill and Underhill in due course.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 1:20 pm
by SaintK
duke wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 1:03 pm
Oxbow wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 12:58 pm
Coles and Langdon should be too.
As an aside, are they likely to be fit for Saturday?
Haven't seen anything yet
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 1:25 pm
by SaintK
sockwithaticket wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 1:04 pm
Not too much to complain about there, anyone you might have expected to be there not involved in the finals is injured (Cunningham- South, Furbank)
Pleased that Seb Atkinson's getting a look and his club mate Clark should get a good run at lock in the absence of our usual suspects. Goodness knows we need to unearth some new ones to add depth. I do not like the idea that Cunningham-South and T. Hill are our cover there for international games.
Seems a bit premature and unnecessary to bring Feyi-Waboso in with how long he's been out. Would've thought he'd benefit more from a proper pre-season than being brought into England's summer plans. It's not like there's a lack of depth in the back three and he's irreplaceably good. Radwan's on fire at the moment.
Perhaps it's just that I haven't watched Leicester enough, but I've only seen Ilione come of the bench this season and he wasn't involved in the A team during the Six Nations, so his elevation is a bit of a surprise. Capstick was involved with the A's, but i don't really see the international quality in him tbh. Definitely expect them to make way for Hill and Underhill in due course.
Radwan can count himself very unlucky!
Pleased to see Batley back in the squad at lock, he's a big old lump with good hands and pace, think Lockett has a good chance of touring as well.
Ilione has excellent pace and looks very powerful at 6 though not as good as Hill yet
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 3:01 pm
by Deveron Boy
No love for Iibitoye?
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 4:35 pm
by SaintK
Mrt Angry gone..................into retirement
Former England full-back Mike Brown has announced his retirement from rugby at the end of the season - with a parting plea to those who run the game.
The 39-year-old, currently with Leicester Tigers, will bring down the curtain on a 20-year career which saw him earn 72 caps for his country.
He also made 430 appearances in all for Tigers, Newcastle Falcons and, principally, Harlequins, where he began his professional career in 2005 and stayed for 16 years, winning two Premiership titles and the European Challenge Cup.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-uni ... vejx2eyo
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 5:09 pm
by duke
Deveron Boy wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 3:01 pm
No love for Iibitoye?
Seems to have dropped off the radar, played well for the A squad so not sure why he’s out of favour
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue May 20, 2025 5:39 pm
by sockwithaticket
duke wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 5:09 pm
Deveron Boy wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 3:01 pm
No love for Iibitoye?
Seems to have dropped off the radar, played well for the A squad so not sure why he’s out of favour
I suspect Borthwick is deeply suspicious of Bristol's flakiness as a collective. On an individual level, I don't think Ibitoye has a rounded enough game for test level yet.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 7:38 am
by SaintK
duke wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 1:03 pm
Oxbow wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 12:58 pm
Coles and Langdon should be too.
As an aside, are they likely to be fit for Saturday?
Not sounding good! UBB will be at full strength with Penaud back.
Northampton are anxious over the fitness of a quartet of key players before the Champions Cup final against Bordeaux-Bègles in Cardiff on Saturday. The hooker Curtis Langdon, the lock Alex Coles and the full-back James Ramm are all battling to overcome injuries, while management are also waiting to discover if the club captain, George Furbank, can feature in the matchday 23.
Saints, who are already without Ollie Sleightholme, George Hendy, Juarno Augustus and Burger Odendaal, will be particularly stretched at hooker and in the back three should Langdon, Ramm and Furbank all be ruled out. Langdon has a shoulder problem, Ramm damaged a shin against Saracens last Saturday while the similarly influential Coles has a knee injury. None of that trio could train on Tuesday.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 8:43 am
by Slick
SaintK wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 4:35 pm
Mrt Angry gone..................into retirement
Former England full-back Mike Brown has announced his retirement from rugby at the end of the season - with a parting plea to those who run the game.
The 39-year-old, currently with Leicester Tigers, will bring down the curtain on a 20-year career which saw him earn 72 caps for his country.
He also made 430 appearances in all for Tigers, Newcastle Falcons and, principally, Harlequins, where he began his professional career in 2005 and stayed for 16 years, winning two Premiership titles and the European Challenge Cup.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-uni ... vejx2eyo
Every single moment - good or tough - has shaped me into the person I am today
Not a great advert for the game
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 9:01 am
by Oxbow
SaintK wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 7:38 am
duke wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 1:03 pm
Oxbow wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 12:58 pm
Coles and Langdon should be too.
As an aside, are they likely to be fit for Saturday?
Not sounding good! UBB will be at full strength with Penaud back.
Northampton are anxious over the fitness of a quartet of key players before the Champions Cup final against Bordeaux-Bègles in Cardiff on Saturday. The hooker Curtis Langdon, the lock Alex Coles and the full-back James Ramm are all battling to overcome injuries, while management are also waiting to discover if the club captain, George Furbank, can feature in the matchday 23.
Saints, who are already without Ollie Sleightholme, George Hendy, Juarno Augustus and Burger Odendaal, will be particularly stretched at hooker and in the back three should Langdon, Ramm and Furbank all be ruled out. Langdon has a shoulder problem, Ramm damaged a shin against Saracens last Saturday while the similarly influential Coles has a knee injury. None of that trio could train on Tuesday.
I always had the feeling we could pull off a shock in Dublin, but I'm worried this could turn into a thrashing the number of players we have missing

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 9:45 am
by SaintK
Oxbow wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 9:01 am
SaintK wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 7:38 am
duke wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 1:03 pm
As an aside, are they likely to be fit for Saturday?
Not sounding good! UBB will be at full strength with Penaud back.
Northampton are anxious over the fitness of a quartet of key players before the Champions Cup final against Bordeaux-Bègles in Cardiff on Saturday. The hooker Curtis Langdon, the lock Alex Coles and the full-back James Ramm are all battling to overcome injuries, while management are also waiting to discover if the club captain, George Furbank, can feature in the matchday 23.
Saints, who are already without Ollie Sleightholme, George Hendy, Juarno Augustus and Burger Odendaal, will be particularly stretched at hooker and in the back three should Langdon, Ramm and Furbank all be ruled out. Langdon has a shoulder problem, Ramm damaged a shin against Saracens last Saturday while the similarly influential Coles has a knee injury. None of that trio could train on Tuesday.
I always had the feeling we could pull off a shock in Dublin, but I'm worried this could turn into a thrashing the number of players we have missing
Yep, doesn't look good.
We will be down to the bare bones at hooker if Langdon doesn't recover
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 10:16 am
by Kawazaki
SaintK wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 12:06 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 11:47 am
1. Rodd
2. George
3. Fasogbon
4. Isiekwe
5. Batley
6. Kenningham
7. Curry
8. Willis
9. van Poortvliet
10. Ford
11. Roebuck
12. S. Atkinson
13. Ma’asi-White
14. Elliott
15. Carpenter
16. Dan
17. Baxter
18. Opoku-Fordjour
19. Clark
20. Ilione
21. Randall
22. C. Atkinson
23. Roebuck
No Bath or Saints players in the squad - assume they will join up later.
Hill, Underhill, Spencer would all be in the 23.
..............as would Dingwall
Yes, agreed, though he needs to learn to pass backwards

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Wed May 21, 2025 11:38 am
by SaintK
Kawazaki wrote: Wed May 21, 2025 10:16 am
SaintK wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 12:06 pm
Kawazaki wrote: Tue May 20, 2025 11:47 am
1. Rodd
2. George
3. Fasogbon
4. Isiekwe
5. Batley
6. Kenningham
7. Curry
8. Willis
9. van Poortvliet
10. Ford
11. Roebuck
12. S. Atkinson
13. Ma’asi-White
14. Elliott
15. Carpenter
16. Dan
17. Baxter
18. Opoku-Fordjour
19. Clark
20. Ilione
21. Randall
22. C. Atkinson
23. Roebuck
No Bath or Saints players in the squad - assume they will join up later.
Hill, Underhill, Spencer would all be in the 23.
..............as would Dingwall
Yes, agreed, though he needs to learn to pass backwards

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 10:05 am
by Kawazaki
Luke Pearce RIP

Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 10:30 am
by Rhubarb & Custard
One could look at that late Saints score and simply consider it's a two man tackle that doesn't stop the ball getting offloaded, and so you'd want a word with two players wasting resources in defence, addressing that which you can control. Or you could blame the ref.
Laugh and the world laughs with you, cry and you wet your face
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri May 23, 2025 10:48 am
by Lobby
Kawazaki wrote: Fri May 23, 2025 10:05 am
Luke Pearce RIP
It was pretty clear from the discussions between Pearce and the TMO that Pearce thought it was forward and was looking to the TMO to provide him with enough evidence to overturn the on-field award of a try. But the TMO kept insisting that the pass and try was fine. When Pearce kept questioning him, the most he would say was that, after looking at all the angles, there was nothing conclusive to overturn the decision. Pearce even apologised to Itoje when explaining why he couldn't overturn the decision.
So your ire should be reserved for the TMO.
Having said that, Saracens had benefitted from forward passes earlier in the match that were missed by the ref and TMO, most notably when Daly's pass to Gonzalez travelled about 10 metres forward before Gonzalez caught it and scored, so these things even out in the end.