This venomous study of Liz Truss is the Establishment’s revenge ( 2 stars / 5)
I tried to read Saturdays Telegraph. It is virtually unreadable and full of batshit crazy articles.
It is now ultra right wing.
No idea how bad it's gotten but at least 8+ years ago the whole thing was a rabid Brexit/Boris propaganda sheet. No objectivity, no wit, no news.
Always suspect they gave out free bottles of water with it at airports. Been a piece of shit for some time.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2024 7:00 am
by vball
I have annual subscription to the Telegraph. Love it. Puzzles are good and the travel, food, features, etc sections brilliant. I do not read the news sections very much.
I also have Gruniard subscription too. I love reading it to find the woke bits and cry babies - hopefully with a comments section so I can troll a little. Crosswords not too bad either.
It may cheer her up to know that Seldon, who has co-authored numerous political biographies of prime ministers, believes Truss was a better PM than her predecessor, Boris Johnson, who he labels the worst of all time.
“She did at least have an intellectual drive and economic policy consistency about her,” he told the Times. “She was undoubtedly clever and had objectives that she passionately believed in and wanted to achieve
Imbeciles can have objectives they, "passionately believed in and wanted to achieve", but they're still imbeciles if what they believe in is fantasy, or impossible by all recognizable science, & precedent. Truss believed in Truss, & spouted whatever bolloxology her sponsor"Think Tanks" plonked in front of her.
Intellectual drive? Clever? This guy is having a laugh surely. The dumbing down of politics over the last 14 years of PPE Oxford types who think the HoC and Parliament was just the same gig as the Debating Club at Oxford has been a major reason this country has been driven over a cliff. It was never more obvious than during Covid press conferences when the Blonde Bumblecunt or Hapless Hancock were on the podium with real clever guys like Whitty and Vallance. The emails exposed in the covid enquiry when they had to explain basic stats to the Lump of Lard showed just how stupid many of those in power were. Like him or not at least Starmer has a proven intellectual ability that overshadows all of the Tory MPs of the last 14 years. It's about time we had someone boring but brainy in charge.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 7:16 am
by SaintK
Great analogy from this moron.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 8:07 am
by Slick
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 8:21 am
by sockwithaticket
Someone still hasn't worked out why the Tories' vote share went from 43% to 23% it seems.
Not sure trying to turn smokers into an oppressed minority is going to help them much. About 11% of the UK population smokes and that figure continues to fall over time. In 2021 it was 13%.
The sheer braindead lunacy of likening smoking restrictions to the Holocaust...
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 8:40 am
by Sandstorm
SaintK wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 7:16 am
Great analogy from this moron.
All the smokers are dead already?
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 9:26 am
by epwc
OMG! This fucking amazing!
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 9:42 am
by dpedin
epwc wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 9:26 am
OMG! This fucking amazing!
... and she is doubling down on this! Brilliant fun
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:47 pm
by Hal Jordan
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 8:21 am
Someone still hasn't worked out why the Tories' vote share went from 43% to 23% it seems.
Not sure trying to turn smokers into an oppressed minority is going to help them much. About 11% of the UK population smokes and that figure continues to fall over time. In 2021 it was 13%.
The sheer braindead lunacy of likening smoking restrictions to the Holocaust...
Especially when the Tory Party was proposing to wipe out smoking altogether in the long term with the year on year restrictions.
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2024 8:21 am
Someone still hasn't worked out why the Tories' vote share went from 43% to 23% it seems.
Not sure trying to turn smokers into an oppressed minority is going to help them much. About 11% of the UK population smokes and that figure continues to fall over time. In 2021 it was 13%.
The sheer braindead lunacy of likening smoking restrictions to the Holocaust...
Especially when the Tory Party was proposing to wipe out smoking altogether in the long term with the year on year restrictions.
Ah, but that's just stopping young people doing things, so it doesn't matter.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 12:46 pm
by Hal Jordan
I see Kemi Braindonor has decided to kick off her campaign for the prize of Tallest Dwarf by...having a go at David Tennant.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:21 pm
by sockwithaticket
Hal Jordan wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 12:46 pm
I see Kemi Braindonor has decided to kick off her campaign for the prize of Tallest Dwarf by...having a go at David Tennant.
Not just having a go at, but dedicating a campaign video to.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2024 1:42 pm
by SaintK
Hal Jordan wrote: Mon Sep 02, 2024 12:46 pm
I see Kemi Braindonor has decided to kick off her campaign for the prize of Tallest Dwarf by...having a go at David Tennant.
I followed some of it. She's as delusional as the others though maybe not quite as smarmy as Jenrick.
There's a depressing number of people with surnames suggesting Irish heritage in these riot cases
I'd have hoped that there would be some cultural memory of the; "No dogs, No Blacks, No Irish", reality of being an immigrant, that would translate into more sympathy, & undersstanding for people in such circumstances.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 4:07 pm
by Hal Jordan
Priti Patel is out of the running after the first round for the Dunce's Hat. She can now devote more time to torturing rats with a hacksaw and pulling the wings off of flies.
Round one votes with added childish spite
Disney Hater Jenrick 28
Kemi Braindonor 22
James "Cleverly" 21
Sensible Tom Tugendhat 17
Mel Stride (whoever the fuck they are) 16
Smirky McSmirkface 14
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 4:10 pm
by epwc
Who the fuck would you vote for out of that selection?
Any Tories here that would like to offer an opinion?
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 4:13 pm
by SaintK
epwc wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 4:10 pm
Who the fuck would you vote for out of that selection?
Any Tories here that would like to offer an opinion?
Don't think many Tories made the jump.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 9:14 pm
by fishfoodie
epwc wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 4:10 pm
Who the fuck would you vote for out of that selection?
Any Tories here that would like to offer an opinion?
Which testicle would you like the pitbull to rib off, & eat ?
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2024 11:06 pm
by sockwithaticket
Hal Jordan wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 4:07 pm
Priti Patel is out of the running after the first round for the Dunce's Hat. She can now devote more time to torturing rats with a hacksaw and pulling the wings off of flies.
Round one votes with added childish spite
Disney Hater Jenrick 28
Kemi Braindonor 22
James "Cleverly" 21
Sensible Tom Tugendhat 17
Mel Stride (whoever the fuck they are) 16
Smirky McSmirkface 14
'Sensible' Tom who keeps banging on about leaving the ECHR...
Even the most (allegedly) moderate among them are loons and/or proven liars. I will never forget Cleverly's mendacity through the recent election campaign. Krishnan Guru Murthy took him to task on Channel 4 about continuing to spout the £2000 tax rise thing in lieu of actually answering questions put to him.
epwc wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 4:10 pm
Who the fuck would you vote for out of that selection?
Any Tories here that would like to offer an opinion?
Which testicle would you like the pitbull to rib off, & eat ?
I would like them to lurch further to the right and go all out Trumpy! Actually that means any of them fit the bill, Dimwit Badenough would be hilarious though.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Sat Sep 07, 2024 5:31 pm
by epwc
I was talking to an acquaintance who’s a fully paid up member yesterday, he’s all in for Tommie
epwc wrote: Wed Sep 04, 2024 4:10 pm
Who the fuck would you vote for out of that selection?
Any Tories here that would like to offer an opinion?
Which testicle would you like the pitbull to rib off, & eat ?
I would like them to lurch further to the right and go all out Trumpy! Actually that means any of them fit the bill, Dimwit Badenough would be hilarious though.
If it goes to the members she's a shoe in; which will be hilarious because I'd say that's the worst case scenario for the MPs, so I expect them to vote tactically to get her off the ballot from here. I didn't think there was a person with thinner skin than the orange one, & then she appeared & made him look like the soul of calm, & considerate Politics.
Covid was an absolute godsend for the chums and investors. A perfect pipeline to guzzle public money and plenty of time and lack of scrutiny get it far away from where it could be recovered.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:11 pm
by epwc
Jendrick in the lead! FFS, what a bunch of cunts
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:13 pm
by Slick
epwc wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:11 pm
Jendrick in the lead! FFS, what a bunch of cunts
Talking of which, I was having dinner with my FiL last night and thats his pick
epwc wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:11 pm
Jendrick in the lead! FFS, what a bunch of cunts
Talking of which, I was having dinner with my FiL last night and thats his pick
Does it matter who they pick in this round? Or the next?
There'll just be a scandal/fallout within the Party around whoever is leader(s) in the next 2-3 years and they'll have to vote again anyway.
epwc wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 4:11 pm
Jendrick in the lead! FFS, what a bunch of cunts
Talking of which, I was having dinner with my FiL last night and thats his pick
Does it matter who they pick in this round? Or the next?
There'll just be a scandal/fallout within the Party around whoever is leader(s) in the next 2-3 years and they'll have to vote again anyway.
None of them will be leader of the opposition come the next election.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:03 pm
by inactionman
I'm getting rheumy-eyed thinking back to halycon days of David Cameron.
Has there been anyone semi-competent since his PMership? May was hamstrung by having to deal with the brexit mess, but he's head and shoulders above the others.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:58 pm
by fishfoodie
inactionman wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:03 pm
I'm getting rheumy-eyed thinking back to halycon days of David Cameron.
Has there been anyone semi-competent since his PMership? May was hamstrung by having to deal with the brexit mess, but he's head and shoulders above the others.
Did you recently suffer a blow to the head, that surgically excised the last ~8 years from your rmemory ?
If so, can you let me know where exactly the blow landed, because.I think I can monatize that knowledge !
inactionman wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:03 pm
I'm getting rheumy-eyed thinking back to halycon days of David Cameron.
Has there been anyone semi-competent since his PMership? May was hamstrung by having to deal with the brexit mess, but he's head and shoulders above the others.
Did you recently suffer a blow to the head, that surgically excised the last ~8 years from your rmemory ?
If so, can you let me know where exactly the blow landed, because.I think I can monatize that knowledge !
Boris, Liz, Rushi.
They're just not serious people. They're almost cartoon bad. Cameron was merely bad, not cartoonish.
inactionman wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:03 pm
I'm getting rheumy-eyed thinking back to halycon days of David Cameron.
Has there been anyone semi-competent since his PMership? May was hamstrung by having to deal with the brexit mess, but he's head and shoulders above the others.
Did you recently suffer a blow to the head, that surgically excised the last ~8 years from your rmemory ?
If so, can you let me know where exactly the blow landed, because.I think I can monatize that knowledge !
Boris, Liz, Rushi.
They're just not serious people. They're almost cartoon bad. Cameron was merely bad, not cartoonish.
(I'll ignore the pig fucking for now)
It's more the decison to hold a Referedum that I'd take issue with; that was the act of a conceited moron !
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:46 pm
by sockwithaticket
I'd say a lot of the austerity decisions taken under DavCam's leadership were those of a cartoonishly evil villain. The rest of the clowns were more openly egregiously corrupt and caught up in Tory soap opera drama, but that should not paint Call Me Dave in anything resembling a good light.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:53 pm
by Sandstorm
sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:46 pm
I'd say a lot of the austerity decisions taken under DavCam's leadership were those of a cartoonishly evil villain. The rest of the clowns were more openly egregiously corrupt and caught up in Tory soap opera drama, but that should not paint Call Me Dave in anything resembling a good light.
George Osbourne was the architect of austerity and he wasn’t evil. Just misguided.
Re: Stop voting for fucking Tories
Posted: Tue Sep 10, 2024 9:14 pm
by Biffer
inactionman wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:03 pm
I'm getting rheumy-eyed thinking back to halycon days of David Cameron.
Has there been anyone semi-competent since his PMership? May was hamstrung by having to deal with the brexit mess, but he's head and shoulders above the others.
Being head and shoulder above people who are six feet under a lake of pigshit isn't really a good place to be. There's not really a lot of demonstrable difference between having your head under six feet of pigshit and having it under four feet of pigshit.
inactionman wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 5:03 pm
I'm getting rheumy-eyed thinking back to halycon days of David Cameron.
Has there been anyone semi-competent since his PMership? May was hamstrung by having to deal with the brexit mess, but he's head and shoulders above the others.
Being head and shoulder above people who are six feet under a lake of pigshit isn't really a good place to be. There's not really a lot of demonstrable difference between having your head under six feet of pigshit and having it under four feet of pigshit.
Indeed. It takes something quite special to make Cameron look good by comparison.
sockwithaticket wrote: Tue Sep 10, 2024 8:46 pm
I'd say a lot of the austerity decisions taken under DavCam's leadership were those of a cartoonishly evil villain. The rest of the clowns were more openly egregiously corrupt and caught up in Tory soap opera drama, but that should not paint Call Me Dave in anything resembling a good light.
George Osbourne was the architect of austerity and he wasn’t evil. Just misguided.
And everyone in that government agreed with his ideas and put them into practice. Osbourne is not solely to blame.
My definition of evil includes taking action that they knew would drastically spike homelessness and food bank usage among the populace, that unnecessarily cut public services to the bone to so great an extent that they are still reeling from the impact. Excess deaths increased markedly during the austerity period. It was a choice and it was at best driven by an indifference to the plight of the most vulnerable in society that is indistinguishable from malignant cruelty. I cannot stress how much I revile that government.
Even the odd thing they're credited for like introducing gay marriage is bollocks - more Tory MPs voted against that bill than for it, it passed despite them.