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Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 4:22 pm
by JM2K6
Fuck Eddie's retrograde stubborn bullshit. Marcus Smith has had a great start and Quins take an early lead with some lovely attacking rugby.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:00 pm
by sockwithaticket
Quins - Glaws is a nice palette cleanser after the earlier game's anti-rugby. Error strewn, but they're both trying to play.
Kawazaki wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 8:13 am
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Dec 05, 2020 5:08 pm
Sopoaga was genuinely garbage. Umaga was basically piss again, too.
I've not understood the Umaga hype. Of the young group coming through he's behind Simmonds, Smith and
Vunipola in my opinion just in terms of his consistency and error-rate. Malins is also a better 10.
Only in your fevered imagination. Malins is looking like a class fullback, though.
Umaga was very good during most of Wasps run in after the Prem restart last season, but it's looking like he really needs Robson to facilitate that. None of Wasps other 9s are anywhere near Dan's quality. Absentees and injuries in the back and second rows mean the forwards are a much diminished unit too, so he's not getting the quality of ball or space he enjoyed in many of those recent victories.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:03 pm
by JM2K6
Yeah, it's good fun.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:07 pm
by JM2K6
Yeah hmm Malins has been making his name at 15 and while I like Vunipola he's had some shockers when his pack has struggled
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:14 pm
by Raggs
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:07 pm
Yeah hmm Malins has been making his name at 15 and while I like Vunipola he's had some shockers when his pack has struggled
Yeah, Vunipola hasn't done enough to be in the same conversation as Umaga, Simmonds and Smith. Smith is the one I feel is the strongest of the 3.
EDIt - I like Malins at 15, but he comes close to getting turned over a lot at international level since people aren't actually expecting us to go forwards. That could be put down as an issue with the team strategy though.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:33 pm
by JM2K6
Big thick Saffa gets deservedly red carded for an elbow to the face. Want sure how deliberate it was but he tucks the arm in a pretty unnatural way, easy enough decision. Idiot.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:37 pm
by sockwithaticket
Having gone down to 13, that's a fantastic bit of defence.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:41 pm
by sockwithaticket
That was a really entertaining couple of minutes.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:43 pm
by JM2K6
Just fucking lol at allowing a player to crawl forward on his knees for five or six metres
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:46 pm
by JM2K6
I love the idea of refs actually blowing the whistle when players are told to use it.
I don't agree with suddenly deciding to do it after 55 minutes of letting both teams ignore you.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:47 pm
by sockwithaticket
Gloucester giving a masterclass in how to squander a 2 man advantage at the moment.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:50 pm
by JM2K6
Oh damn that's a shame. 13 man Quins nearly score a brilliant try. Smith is having a cracker.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:52 pm
by sockwithaticket
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:50 pm
Oh damn that's a shame. 13 man Quins nearly score a brilliant try. Smith is having a cracker.
Massive let off for Gloucester. Smith is fantastic. Playing a bit too much rugby to interest Eddie you feel.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:53 pm
by JM2K6
Oh, we got lucky. Thought he was in front. Was close. Think he thought it was such a gorgeous try it deserved to be given...
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:54 pm
by sockwithaticket
Just to spite Healy.
Gloucester managed to draw the period of 15 v 13.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:57 pm
by Enzedder
Not even close. Quins get better with less players (don't get in each others way)
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:57 pm
by JM2K6
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:54 pm
Just to spite Healy.
Gloucester managed to draw the period of 15 v 13.
While I think the ref got it wrong, it was way closer than pretty much every winger on every box kick...
Smith is killing them. Bonus point try.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:58 pm
by sockwithaticket
Dombrandt posts the BP try after glaws emphatically fuck up dealing with a towering high kick from Smith.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:59 pm
by JM2K6
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:58 pm
Dombrandt posts the BP try after glaws emphatically fuck up dealing with a towering high kick from Smith.
I really appreciated Ben Kay calling how good that kick was seconds before it came down.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:59 pm
by sockwithaticket
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:57 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:54 pm
Just to spite Healy.
Gloucester managed to draw the period of 15 v 13.
While I think the ref got it wrong, it was way closer than pretty much every winger on every box kick...
Smith is killing them. Bonus point try.
It's good to see.
Feeling a lot worse about Wasps losing to Gloucester last week now...
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:06 pm
by sockwithaticket
Oh stop it, Marcus. Well taken drop goal all from Glaws botching his restart kick.
Maybe he is doing enough with the boot for a certain Mr. Jones.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:08 pm
by JM2K6
Gosh, we really miss our first choice locks. Gonna be close!
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:09 pm
by sockwithaticket
If Quins can avoid giving Glaws maul-able positions the clock is on their side.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:11 pm
by ASMO
Glaws a bit shit aren't they
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:12 pm
by JM2K6
The twin joys of Henry Trinder making a brilliant break and Quins getting a penalty
Oh Ashton you idiot
Am very sick of hearing this TMO though, would have been nice if he'd spotted the exocet no arms clean out on Ash though
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:13 pm
by sockwithaticket
Hugely important cover tackle from Smith. He must be nailed on MotM
ASMO wrote: ↑Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:11 pm
Glaws a bit shit aren't they
They beat Wasps* heavily last weekend.
*We might also be terrible.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:14 pm
by JM2K6
Well reffed. No thanks to the tmo.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:15 pm
by Paddington Bear
Ludlow a good example of a phenomenon that increasingly pisses me off - the shock at being carded for high tackles/clearouts etc. These rules aren’t new, just don’t do it
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:15 pm
by sockwithaticket
Yeah, I'm not always Tempest's biggest fan, but he's done very well today.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 6:17 pm
by JM2K6
Brilliant. Well done Quins. Ballsy performance.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 7:51 pm
by Hal Jordan
I for one am glad that I started drinking at 2 p.m and haven't stopped since because if I did I might remember the England match. I had more entertainment watching my boy and the reat of the minis dropping balls at practice in the cold this morning. Several of them kicked better, too.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:16 pm
by Raggs
Dimes has left Sale....
There's got to be a story there!
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:31 pm
by ASMO
Raggs wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:16 pm
Dimes has left Sale....
There's got to be a story there!
Never saw that coming, he seemed to be the perfect fit for Sale.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:54 pm
by sockwithaticket
"Personal reasons" is all I've seen so far. He's quite involved with the club in ways beyond simply being DoR iirc. This could get interesting.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:02 pm
by ASMO
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:54 pm
"Personal reasons" is all I've seen so far. He's quite involved with the club in ways beyond simply being DoR iirc. This could get interesting.
on the club website
Sale Sharks Rugby Club can today announce that Steve Diamond has left the club with immediate effect due to personal reasons.
The club would like to thank Steve for his loyal service and commitment over the years. He leaves Sale Sharks in a strong position having improved the club in many ways and we wish him every success for the future.
Paul Deacon will assume responsibility of the first team as Head Coach while we take stock and plan for the future.
Commenting on the announcement, Steve said:
“After 10 proud years with Sale Sharks I have taken the decision to step away from the business.
I feel that this is the perfect moment to hand over to someone else, given the club is now stable and in a great position to compete at the highest level.
We have acquired a world class training facility, built an academy that is the envy of many premiership clubs and constructed a squad that can win tournaments and trophies at domestic and European level.
I know Simon and Ged will continue with the progress we have made together, and I now look forward to taking some time out and planning my next challenge.”
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:02 pm
by JM2K6
I'm putting a fiver on someone finding the flayed corpse of a local rugby journalist in Dimes' basement "playroom".
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:11 pm
by sockwithaticket
ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:02 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:54 pm
"Personal reasons" is all I've seen so far. He's quite involved with the club in ways beyond simply being DoR iirc. This could get interesting.
on the club website
Sale Sharks Rugby Club can today announce that Steve Diamond has left the club with immediate effect due to personal reasons.
The club would like to thank Steve for his loyal service and commitment over the years. He leaves Sale Sharks in a strong position having improved the club in many ways and we wish him every success for the future.
Paul Deacon will assume responsibility of the first team as Head Coach while we take stock and plan for the future.
Commenting on the announcement, Steve said:
“After 10 proud years with Sale Sharks I have taken the decision to step away from the business.
I feel that this is the perfect moment to hand over to someone else, given the club is now stable and in a great position to compete at the highest level.
We have acquired a world class training facility, built an academy that is the envy of many premiership clubs and constructed a squad that can win tournaments and trophies at domestic and European level.
I know Simon and Ged will continue with the progress we have made together, and I now look forward to taking some time out and planning my next challenge.”
That's now ignored in favour of Afrikaans accents it seems...
Does sound like a total separation and it is very weird time for it to happen.
Wouldn't be surprised if he might've ended up in a physical confrontation with a player.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:19 pm
by SaintK
sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Tue Dec 08, 2020 12:54 pm
"Personal reasons" is all I've seen so far. He's quite involved with the club in ways beyond simply being DoR iirc. This could get interesting.
New CEO took over a few weeks back. May have found something he didn't like?
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Tue Dec 08, 2020 1:45 pm
by Kawazaki
I assume the personal reasons are that he doesn't have South African parents.
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2020 12:18 pm
by Raggs
Wasps starting Charlie Atkinson at 10, rather than Sops or Gops, which is really nice to see. Umaga injured.