NPR

How many penalties are England giving away, must be close to double figures. Ireland get their 4th try.

After the shock win against France, England very much returning to their true level.

Assuming Ireland go on to win, England, Ireland and France will all have one win from three, so the final standings will come down to bonus points and points difference.

England mens rugby is an utter disgrace, about as functional as the current Tory government.

I am running out of adjectives to describe just how shit England are.

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:13 pm I am running out of adjectives to describe just how shit England are.

TBF basic handling is pretty poor for both teams.

England replacement 8 has had an absolute shocker since coming on, pretty much dropped every pass he has been given.

Really dumb from Hendy.

Absolute mile offside at the KO

Just made up for it.

And the 8 knocks on again

Cunningham-South had the kind of nightmare 40 minutes there that you pray will only happen once in your career

Threw that one away at the end.

England got what they deserved, just so so bad, the entire coaching team needs to go.

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:51 pm England got what they deserved, just so so bad, the entire coaching team needs to go.

England still come second in the table thanks to two bonus points today.

Lobby wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:54 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:51 pm England got what they deserved, just so so bad, the entire coaching team needs to go.

England still come second in the table thanks to two bonus points today.

Thats whats known as a pyrric victory

Lobby wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:54 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:51 pm England got what they deserved, just so so bad, the entire coaching team needs to go.

England still come second in the table thanks to two bonus points today.

Moral victory secured then. Never in doubt...

Italy vs Wales for the dubious honour of playing South Africa...

It is pretty damn depressing for NH rugby. SA sides in their 1st URC have an all SA final. Senior sides being smashed down under. SA u20 look so much better in fitness, skill and nous. SA are so dismissive of wales they make 14 changes for 2nd test (anyone put any money on a Wales win?). What is it now, 7 world cup wins to 1?
Governing bodies should hang their heads in shame but won’t as they don’t really give a flying fvck as long as 6 nations fills the coffers each year.

Yea this generation got really screwed over by covid. Many teams lack basic skills. Feels like the level of rugby I played in college(utterly dreadful). I hope everyone can rebound quickly.

PCPhil wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:06 pm It is pretty damn depressing for NH rugby. SA sides in their 1st URC have an all SA final. Senior sides being smashed down under. SA u20 look so much better in fitness, skill and nous. SA are so dismissive of wales they make 14 changes for 2nd test (anyone put any money on a Wales win?). What is it now, 7 world cup wins to 1?
Governing bodies should hang their heads in shame but won’t as they don’t really give a flying fvck as long as 6 nations fills the coffers each year.

Boet we are part of the NH & 6 Nations now. This will only improve the competitions and canceled out that WC wins.

Covid have struck our schoolboy rugby very hard. Saru however have a very good youth structure identifying youth players from u16 and bring them together in camps.

We only qualify for the final. Haven't won anything.

How does this format work, Pool A looks much stronger than Pool B.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:37 am

PCPhil wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:06 pm It is pretty damn depressing for NH rugby. SA sides in their 1st URC have an all SA final. Senior sides being smashed down under. SA u20 look so much better in fitness, skill and nous. SA are so dismissive of wales they make 14 changes for 2nd test (anyone put any money on a Wales win?). What is it now, 7 world cup wins to 1?
Governing bodies should hang their heads in shame but won’t as they don’t really give a flying fvck as long as 6 nations fills the coffers each year.

Boet we are part of the NH & 6 Nations now. This will only improve the competitions and canceled out that WC wins.

Covid have struck our schoolboy rugby very hard. Saru however have a very good youth structure identifying youth players from u16 and bring them together in camps.

We only qualify for the final. Haven't won anything.

From what I can gather the schools system in South Africa is ridiculously strong, there are so many really good players coming out of that system, I guess it's one of the reasons you get players in Europe who didn't quite make it in the big franchises in SA but carve out a good career up here.

Who is playing who in SFs

Masterji wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:33 am Who is playing who in SFs

No semis , only finals.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 7:28 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 5:37 am

PCPhil wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:06 pm It is pretty damn depressing for NH rugby. SA sides in their 1st URC have an all SA final. Senior sides being smashed down under. SA u20 look so much better in fitness, skill and nous. SA are so dismissive of wales they make 14 changes for 2nd test (anyone put any money on a Wales win?). What is it now, 7 world cup wins to 1?
Governing bodies should hang their heads in shame but won’t as they don’t really give a flying fvck as long as 6 nations fills the coffers each year.

Boet we are part of the NH & 6 Nations now. This will only improve the competitions and canceled out that WC wins.

Covid have struck our schoolboy rugby very hard. Saru however have a very good youth structure identifying youth players from u16 and bring them together in camps.

We only qualify for the final. Haven't won anything.

From what I can gather the schools system in South Africa is ridiculously strong, there are so many really good players coming out of that system, I guess it's one of the reasons you get players in Europe who didn't quite make it in the big franchises in SA but carve out a good career up here.

Our Craven Week is now on the go. Some great talent on show

Haven't had a chance to watch SA-France, only saw the replay. Looks to me as if the French forwards were not a match for the Baby Boks, and many tries were scored by Boks forwards close to the line. Discipline appears to have been another issue.

It is a disappointing crop of U20 though there were couple talents who could go on to become internationals. Hopefully we have better in stock for future years.

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:12 am How does this format work, Pool A looks much stronger than Pool B.

The hosts probably worked out the format.

Wonder if they'll ever implement the swiss format in Rugby. Looks pretty interesting and u20 seems like the best spot to test it. Definitely preferable to this type of group format IMO.

Georgian forwards are simply too much for the Scots. Complete demolition of a scrum on the Scottish line to win against the head and score a try.

Hardly surprising given that most of them look closer to 30 than 20.

FullbackAce wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:38 pm Wonder if they'll ever implement the swiss format in Rugby. Looks pretty interesting and u20 seems like the best spot to test it. Definitely preferable to this type of group format IMO.

Would probably work well for this type of competition where all the teams are in the same location. Wouldn’t work for the 6N because you need to know the schedule of matches well in advance so teams and fans can make travel arrangements etc.

Do they have IDs in Georgia?

Lobby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:21 pm

FullbackAce wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:38 pm Wonder if they'll ever implement the swiss format in Rugby. Looks pretty interesting and u20 seems like the best spot to test it. Definitely preferable to this type of group format IMO.

Would probably work well for this type of competition where all the teams are in the same location. Wouldn’t work for the 6N because you need to know the schedule of matches well in advance so teams and fans can make travel arrangements etc.

How do this work?

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:23 pm

Lobby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:21 pm

FullbackAce wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:38 pm Wonder if they'll ever implement the swiss format in Rugby. Looks pretty interesting and u20 seems like the best spot to test it. Definitely preferable to this type of group format IMO.

Would probably work well for this type of competition where all the teams are in the same location. Wouldn’t work for the 6N because you need to know the schedule of matches well in advance so teams and fans can make travel arrangements etc.

How do this work?

It’s a way of running a tournament when it’s not possible for all teams to play each other (Round-Robin style), but you also don’t want to eliminate any teams. The aim is to provide a clear winner with a large number of competitors and a relatively small number of rounds of competition, without a single bad result terminating participation. The winner is the team with the highest aggregate points after all rounds have been completed.

One of the key aspects is that each round of matches is only scheduled after the previous round has been completed in order to take account of the latest set of results.

Full explanation here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss-system_tournament

Lovely try for Georgia, but how shit are Scotland. Ireland will thrash them in the wooden spoon play-off.

Georgians actually have some nice play to go with their forward dominance.

Just seen the score!!

Lobby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:21 pm

FullbackAce wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:38 pm Wonder if they'll ever implement the swiss format in Rugby. Looks pretty interesting and u20 seems like the best spot to test it. Definitely preferable to this type of group format IMO.

Would probably work well for this type of competition where all the teams are in the same location. Wouldn’t work for the 6N because you need to know the schedule of matches well in advance so teams and fans can make travel arrangements etc.

Not for 6N. I meant this format of 2 groups where 1st places go to final 2nds play for 3rd place etc. It's the most boring and unfair format I've come across in team sport. U20 World Cup is also similar just with more pools.

FullbackAce wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:52 pm

Lobby wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 4:21 pm

FullbackAce wrote: ↑Wed Jul 06, 2022 2:38 pm Wonder if they'll ever implement the swiss format in Rugby. Looks pretty interesting and u20 seems like the best spot to test it. Definitely preferable to this type of group format IMO.

Would probably work well for this type of competition where all the teams are in the same location. Wouldn’t work for the 6N because you need to know the schedule of matches well in advance so teams and fans can make travel arrangements etc.

Not for 6N. I meant this format of 2 groups where 1st places go to final 2nds play for 3rd place etc. It's the most boring and unfair format I've come across in team sport. U20 World Cup is also similar just with more pools.

Agreed, would be more interesting and would provide a fairer set of results in these competitions.

Congratulations to Georgia.

Scottish rugby is in a very bad place.

When is the world cup draw scheduled?

It's been a nervy first half so far