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Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:40 pm
by Luckycharmer
CM11 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:35 pmAre you drunk LC?
Are you? I have not touched a drop. Did you actually watch the game seriously?

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:42 pm
by Gav
If my aunty had balls and all that.

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:42 pm
by CM11
Luckycharmer wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:38 pm Prendergast got 7/8 kicks the French hit the post twice and missed at least 1 more but according to stats that had no affect on the result!
I don't think it did, no.

I struggle to believe you actually watch or have played rugby. I mean, before you protest, I know you do and have but it's still a struggle to match it up while you bullshit on about just adding missed kicks and thinking the game would pan out exactly the same.

Let me start by giving you a clue. We were under the cosh for ages before France finally took the lead. Now, what happened next?

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:46 pm
by Frop.E
redderneck wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:31 pm Our backline outside 10 are military medium. If and when an oppo pack get on top of us, we are very ref reliant.
It's fairly mad how not one of them had a bit of spark.
Again, Devine seems the type to run into brick walls all day which is useful-ish.

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:52 pm
by freddie
If you're going to go on about missed kicks costing games then you have to admit that the knock on from the kickoff effectively gave France a try. 19 out of 20 he catches, that, way higher chance than the kicks.

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:54 pm
by CM11
The last French conversion was way more important than any of the previous misses. Nearly won them the game.

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:55 pm
by Luckycharmer
CM11 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:42 pm
Luckycharmer wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:38 pm Prendergast got 7/8 kicks the French hit the post twice and missed at least 1 more but according to stats that had no affect on the result!
I don't think it did, no.

I struggle to believe you actually watch or have played rugby. I mean, before you protest, I know you do and have but it's still a struggle to match it up while you bullshit on about just adding missed kicks and thinking the game would pan out exactly the same.

Let me start by giving you a clue. We were under the cosh for ages before France finally took the lead. Now, what happened next?
I know for a fact you definitely haven't played rugby past school (did you play in school?)and it quite obvious. If a team builds up a lead by getting their kicks it makes you chase the game. You do understand that but given I bet you have not played you probably don't understand. Again I asked you if Nicholson got a pass in open space.
Ireland should have been well ahead in the first half but were sloppy. This is very good team 1-10, Cooney and Merlean weren't bad. This is a great win and they showed true grit.
They conceeded 9 tries in 2 games, if they don't sort that out it could bite them in the ass

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:55 pm
by Frop.E
You guys ever see that movie The Buttery Effect starring early 2000s Hollywood Hunk Ashton Ketchup?
Well imagine the missed kicks are like that.

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:56 pm
by MrJonno
CM11 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:28 pm Scotland quick lineout? You've lost me.
Years ago, Ireland booted it into the upper stand took a quick lineout while Ireland ambled up laughing at their ignorance of the laws and the ref let the try stand

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:58 pm
by Luckycharmer
EnergiseR2 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:51 pm
CM11 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:42 pm
Luckycharmer wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:38 pm Prendergast got 7/8 kicks the French hit the post twice and missed at least 1 more but according to stats that had no affect on the result!
I don't think it did, no.

I struggle to believe you actually watch or have played rugby. I mean, before you protest, I know you do and have but it's still a struggle to match it up while you bullshit on about just adding missed kicks and thinking the game would pan out exactly the same.

Let me start by giving you a clue. We were under the cosh for ages before France finally took the lead. Now, what happened next?
It's quite comforting reading this argument in February 2023. It's like a hot cup of cocoa
I think stats has hit the merlot early.

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:59 pm
by CM11
Luckycharmer wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:55 pm
CM11 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:42 pm
Luckycharmer wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:38 pm Prendergast got 7/8 kicks the French hit the post twice and missed at least 1 more but according to stats that had no affect on the result!
I don't think it did, no.

I struggle to believe you actually watch or have played rugby. I mean, before you protest, I know you do and have but it's still a struggle to match it up while you bullshit on about just adding missed kicks and thinking the game would pan out exactly the same.

Let me start by giving you a clue. We were under the cosh for ages before France finally took the lead. Now, what happened next?
I know for a fact you definitely haven't played rugby past school (did you play in school?)and it quite obvious. If a team builds up a lead by getting their kicks it makes you chase the game. You do understand that but given I bet you have not played you probably don't understand. Again I asked you if Nicholson got a pass in open space.
Ireland should have been well ahead in the first half but were sloppy. This is very good team 1-10, Cooney and Merlean weren't bad. This is a great win and they showed true grit.
They conceeded 9 tries in 2 games, if they don't sort that out it could bite them in the ass
Oh sweet jesus Christ.

You even talk about how scores affect the ebb and flow of games yet can't make the connection with that happening for the French but somehow not being relevant to us?

You're as bad as the Bok supporters thinking they'd have beaten us if they'd made their kicks. They couldn't even add that day but it's the same point. Teams react to scores and certainly when it comes to missed penalties you have a different field position for ones that are made. France's missed penalty even had them with possession under the posts, ffs.

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:00 pm
by CM11
MrJonno wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:56 pm
CM11 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:28 pm Scotland quick lineout? You've lost me.
Years ago, Ireland booted it into the upper stand took a quick lineout while Ireland ambled up laughing at their ignorance of the laws and the ref let the try stand
Same as against Wales. Or have you got the wrong opposition?

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:05 pm
by Luckycharmer
CM11 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:59 pm
Luckycharmer wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:55 pm
CM11 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:42 pm

I don't think it did, no.

I struggle to believe you actually watch or have played rugby. I mean, before you protest, I know you do and have but it's still a struggle to match it up while you bullshit on about just adding missed kicks and thinking the game would pan out exactly the same.

Let me start by giving you a clue. We were under the cosh for ages before France finally took the lead. Now, what happened next?
I know for a fact you definitely haven't played rugby past school (did you play in school?)and it quite obvious. If a team builds up a lead by getting their kicks it makes you chase the game. You do understand that but given I bet you have not played you probably don't understand. Again I asked you if Nicholson got a pass in open space.
Ireland should have been well ahead in the first half but were sloppy. This is very good team 1-10, Cooney and Merlean weren't bad. This is a great win and they showed true grit.
They conceeded 9 tries in 2 games, if they don't sort that out it could bite them in the ass
Oh sweet jesus Christ.

You even talk about how scores affect the ebb and flow of games yet can't make the connection with that happening for the French but somehow not being relevant to us?

You're as bad as the Bok supporters thinking they'd have beaten us if they'd made their kicks. They couldn't even add that day but it's the same point. Teams react to scores and certainly when it comes to missed penalties you have a different field position for ones that are made. France's missed penalty even had them with possession under the posts, ffs.
Keep off booze stats even Commentators said at end about missed kicks being difference. It wasn't like we were scoring tries at will.

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:08 pm
by Luckycharmer
Stats you know I can get you involved in Vets and than we can see who has played rugby you on?

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:10 pm
by Gav
Image

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:11 pm
by CM11
2 conversions and 1 penalty. In your world the penalties cancel each other out. So 4 whole points and he nailed one from the touchline he wasn't expected to get.

Massive, massive difference. I mean the not taking the 3 before half time and the drop after retaking the lead are completely irrelevant. Costing us 10 points in total but those 4 points from conversions were the difference. :roll:

Anyway, I'm out.

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:18 pm
by Luckycharmer
Don't go hiding now Stats are you going come out and show me your skills? You quesioned if I played why not come down and see. I can't wait to see you on a rugby pitch are we on or are you going to skulking off?

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:24 pm
by CM11
Luckycharmer wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:18 pm Don't go hiding now Stats are you going come out and show me your skills? You quesioned if I played why not come down and see. I can't wait to see you on a rugby pitch are we on or are you going to skulking off?
:roll:

No, I'm not interested, thanks.

I don't know why it would make 10 less than 4 anyway, if we just get to pick individual errors to change the scoreline.

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:26 pm
by Luckycharmer
Our lineout was class and first time I can remember seeing an Irish scrum push a French scrum off its own ball. There will be quite a few of that pack who will get senior caps.

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:27 pm
by Frop.E
Luckycharmer wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:26 pm Our lineout was class and first time I can remember seeing an Irish scrum push a French scrum off its own ball. There will be quite a few of that pack who will get senior caps.
Not so much the backs.

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:28 pm
by Luckycharmer
CM11 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:24 pm
Luckycharmer wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:18 pm Don't go hiding now Stats are you going come out and show me your skills? You quesioned if I played why not come down and see. I can't wait to see you on a rugby pitch are we on or are you going to skulking off?
:roll:

No, I'm not interested, thanks.

I don't know why it would make 10 less than 4 anyway, if we just get to pick individual errors to change the scoreline.
What a surprise bluster as usual, you are welcome anytime to come down and play. Then we can see who has played the game. Given it was you who questioned it.

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:30 pm
by CM11
Luckycharmer wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:28 pm
CM11 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:24 pm
Luckycharmer wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:18 pm Don't go hiding now Stats are you going come out and show me your skills? You quesioned if I played why not come down and see. I can't wait to see you on a rugby pitch are we on or are you going to skulking off?
:roll:

No, I'm not interested, thanks.

I don't know why it would make 10 less than 4 anyway, if we just get to pick individual errors to change the scoreline.
What a surprise bluster as usual, you are welcome anytime to come down and play. Then we can see who has played the game. Given it was you who questioned it.
I specifically didn't call you out, you eejit
I mean, before you protest, I know you do and have

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:31 pm
by Luckycharmer
Frop.E wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:27 pm
Luckycharmer wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:26 pm Our lineout was class and first time I can remember seeing an Irish scrum push a French scrum off its own ball. There will be quite a few of that pack who will get senior caps.
Not so much the backs.
Prendergast, maybe Gunne and Cooney. Merlean has a bit of JOB about him.

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:34 pm
by Luckycharmer
CM11 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:30 pm
Luckycharmer wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:28 pm
CM11 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:24 pm

:roll:

No, I'm not interested, thanks.

I don't know why it would make 10 less than 4 anyway, if we just get to pick individual errors to change the scoreline.
What a surprise bluster as usual, you are welcome anytime to come down and play. Then we can see who has played the game. Given it was you who questioned it.
I specifically didn't call you out, you eejit
I mean, before you protest, I know you do and have
Funny how you are missing most of what you said. Anytime stats come on down what are you afraid of remind me again of your playing CV and making decisions on the pitch?

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:34 pm
by Frop.E
Luckycharmer wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:31 pm
Frop.E wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:27 pm
Luckycharmer wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:26 pm Our lineout was class and first time I can remember seeing an Irish scrum push a French scrum off its own ball. There will be quite a few of that pack who will get senior caps.
Not so much the backs.
Prendergast, maybe Gunne and Cooney. Merlean has a bit of JOB about him.
The fullback? Thought he had no incision at all.

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:39 pm
by MrJonno
CM11 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:00 pm
MrJonno wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:56 pm
CM11 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:28 pm Scotland quick lineout? You've lost me.
Years ago, Ireland booted it into the upper stand took a quick lineout while Ireland ambled up laughing at their ignorance of the laws and the ref let the try stand
Same as against Wales. Or have you got the wrong opposition?
It was wakes wasn't it. I haven't forgiven the
Scots for Geordan Murphy breaking his leg when he was a class act. I haven't even worked out how is their fault.

It's old age. I got my first reading glasses yesterday and the excitement was too much for me

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:41 pm
by Luckycharmer
Frop.E wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:34 pm
Luckycharmer wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:31 pm
Frop.E wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:27 pm

Not so much the backs.
Prendergast, maybe Gunne and Cooney. Merlean has a bit of JOB about him.
The fullback? Thought he had no incision at all.
Had a few half breaks, he doesn't really make many mistakes. He is a good footballer plays outhalf for his club sometimes as well. Similar to Jimmy O'Brien probably be a decent pro, will see how he progresses.
No one would have picked Keenan out at this age so you never know.

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:43 pm
by CM11
Ffs, LC. The whole point was that I know you play and watch loads of rugby. It's gas I point that out so you don't get your knickers in a twist and yet you still went off on one.

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:45 pm
by fishfoodie
Gav wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:10 pm Image
:lol: :lol:

Bookmarked for when I need it next

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:52 pm
by Frop.E
See this is the stuff the NPR guys were missing

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:52 pm
by CM11
Sorry lads. :oops:

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:53 pm
by Luckycharmer
CM11 wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:43 pm Ffs, LC. The whole point was that I know you play and watch loads of rugby. It's gas I point that out so you don't get your knickers in a twist and yet you still went off on one.
You attacked the man rather than my point. Then other rubbish are you drunk?

I called you out on it and still waiting on your playing cv?

Re: U20’s

Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:57 pm
by Camroc2
That was an epic match. I thought we left one or two tries behind us in the first half by keeping it tight instead of going wide. I'm also pretty sure this is the first time those Irish lads will have come up against equally big players who don't give soft shoulders.

The French maul when we had two forward YC's knowing that we'd have at least another if not red if we took it out, was both clever and well executed.

Commiserations to France, but I'm sure the Irish team will learn a lot from that.

Prendergast, Gunne and Gleeson have stood out in a team that will produce a shed load of pros.

Re: U20’s

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:14 am
by C69
Guys this isn't PR FFS.

Re: U20’s

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:20 am
by Gav
C69 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 12:14 am Guys this isn't PR FFS.
Which means what exactly?

Re: U20’s

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 1:08 am
by Hellraiser
TheFrog wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:03 pm
iarmhí wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 10:03 pm Think that 9 for France's dad played scrum half for France as well. He won two grand slams
And 4's dad was a lock for France too.
I never made the connection with Carbonneau and Auradou. God I feel old.

Re: U20’s

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:32 am
by HighKingLeinster
Frop.E wrote: Fri Feb 10, 2023 11:52 pm See this is the stuff the NPR guys were missing
Who are you in the real bored?

Re: U20’s

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:23 am
by weegie01
All the games so far except Wales - Ireland have been pretty tight. Scotland seem to have closed the gap a bit, but are slowly losing players to injury and may struggle as the tournament progresses. Even if we end up with the wooden spoon it is hopeful that they are more competitive than in the past.

Re: U20’s

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:31 am
by Kawazaki
weegie01 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:23 am Scotland seem to have closed the gap a bit


Have Scotland extended their poaching to the the England u18 and u16s sides now?

Re: U20’s

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:06 am
by PornDog
Jesus lads - my ten year old is capable of more mature conversation than you two gobshites.

You don't have to be immature twats, that is an option you k ow? You both could have made the exact same arguments without resorting to that shite!

(I write this in the full knowledge that I have been there and done that)