NPR

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:21 pm Saracens 2ndXV doing well.

sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:36 pm

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:21 pm Saracens 2ndXV doing well.

Yeah only the 8 tier 1 internationals in the starting XV is a bit of a step down for them.

fishfoodie wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:51 pm That's a shit decision.

Any obstruction was very marginal, & there's no way he can say it influenced the outcome

Raggs wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:52 pm

fishfoodie wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:51 pm That's a shit decision.

Any obstruction was very marginal, & there's no way he can say it influenced the outcome

Yeah, I wish there was an overhead view to actually show how close Maro was. Personally I don't think there was any chance of him even being close enough to attempt a tackle.

Raggs wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:52 pm

fishfoodie wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:51 pm That's a shit decision.

Any obstruction was very marginal, & there's no way he can say it influenced the outcome

Yeah, I wish there was an overhead view to actually show how close Maro was. Personally I don't think there was any chance of him even being close enough to attempt a tackle.

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:57 pm

Raggs wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:52 pm

fishfoodie wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:51 pm That's a shit decision.

Any obstruction was very marginal, & there's no way he can say it influenced the outcome

Yeah, I wish there was an overhead view to actually show how close Maro was. Personally I don't think there was any chance of him even being close enough to attempt a tackle.

That's not really the point though is it? You penalise the offence, not the imagined outcome.

Raggs wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:01 pm

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:57 pm

Raggs wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:52 pm

Yeah, I wish there was an overhead view to actually show how close Maro was. Personally I don't think there was any chance of him even being close enough to attempt a tackle.

That's not really the point though is it? You penalise the offence, not the imagined outcome.

If Maro is not in a position to even attempt a tackle, then he can't be prevented from doing it. I think it was one of those calls that could have gone either way to be honest, an overhead view may have helped clarify it either way.

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:03 pmAlternatively just don't change your line and make it an easy offence to spot.

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:57 pm

Raggs wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:52 pm

fishfoodie wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:51 pm That's a shit decision.

Any obstruction was very marginal, & there's no way he can say it influenced the outcome

Yeah, I wish there was an overhead view to actually show how close Maro was. Personally I don't think there was any chance of him even being close enough to attempt a tackle.

That's not really the point though is it? You penalise the offence, not the imagined outcome.

fishfoodie wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:12 pm

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:57 pm

Raggs wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:52 pm

Yeah, I wish there was an overhead view to actually show how close Maro was. Personally I don't think there was any chance of him even being close enough to attempt a tackle.

That's not really the point though is it? You penalise the offence, not the imagined outcome.

Come on; officials always make an assessment as to whether or not an offence matters; otherwise you'll get ARs on the opposite wing calling for penalties, when they have zero impact on play.

The mistake was in, maybe, obstructing the biggest whinger in the Premiership. It was his high pitched whine that made the officials look again

sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:27 pm How long will it take for Saracens losing to stop being fun?

Kawazaki wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:44 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:27 pm How long will it take for Saracens losing to stop being fun?

How long until you reach adulthood?

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:38 pm Itoje getting a turnover after landing on his forearms before going for the ball and being praised by Kay for the "perfect turnover" annoyed me, doubly so considering he followed up by criticising someone a minute later for being on their hands first...

Don't think our refs have handled the new approach well yet, compared to the NZ refs.

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:19 am

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:38 pm Itoje getting a turnover after landing on his forearms before going for the ball and being praised by Kay for the "perfect turnover" annoyed me, doubly so considering he followed up by criticising someone a minute later for being on their hands first...

Don't think our refs have handled the new approach well yet, compared to the NZ refs.

Not sure about that last, ours have been much quicker to ignore the new requirements

Dinsdale Piranha wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:45 am

Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 11:19 am

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Aug 15, 2020 5:38 pm Itoje getting a turnover after landing on his forearms before going for the ball and being praised by Kay for the "perfect turnover" annoyed me, doubly so considering he followed up by criticising someone a minute later for being on their hands first...

Don't think our refs have handled the new approach well yet, compared to the NZ refs.

Not sure about that last, ours have been much quicker to ignore the new requirements

The last time there was an attempt to enforce the laws - straight feeds etc - I remember the refs in England gave it about 5 weeks before giving up.

Oxbow wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:19 pm This isn't a bad game so far, compared to what I've read about the weekend's other games anyway.

Punter15 wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:34 pm I’m wildly biased but Dingwall sinks as he lands otherwise it’s fine.

Watching in slow mo makes everything look worse.

Raggs wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:39 pm Think Willis has now become only the second player ever to get 30+ turnovers in a season. 37 I believe is the highest on record, I'm thinking he's on at least 31 now.

SaintK wrote: Sun Aug 16, 2020 2:53 pm Best 40 minutes of the weekend
Wasps worth the lead!