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Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:23 am
by assfly
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:50 am
You can add Nohamba to that list. He is very talented and look like a future Bok.
I'm a huge fan, but let's talk after he has another full season under his belt. I can see him in green a gold in a couple of years.
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:59 am
by Chilli
assfly wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:23 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:50 am
You can add Nohamba to that list. He is very talented and look like a future Bok.
I'm a huge fan, but let's talk after he has another full season under his belt. I can see him in green a gold in a couple of years.
He will be a Bok in the near future. He should move to the Cheetahs and learn his trade under the mentorship of an experienced 9, like Ruan Pienaar.
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:51 am
by Sandstorm
Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:59 am
assfly wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:23 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 8:50 am
You can add Nohamba to that list. He is very talented and look like a future Bok.
I'm a huge fan, but let's talk after he has another full season under his belt. I can see him in green a gold in a couple of years.
He will be a Bok in the near future. He should move to the Cheetahs and learn his trade under the mentorship of an experienced 9, like Ruan Pienaar.
What will he learn playing in Russia?
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:04 pm
by average joe
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 11:51 am
Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:59 am
assfly wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 9:23 am
I'm a huge fan, but let's talk after he has another full season under his belt. I can see him in green a gold in a couple of years.
He will be a Bok in the near future. He should move to the Cheetahs and learn his trade under the mentorship of an experienced 9, like Ruan Pienaar.
What will he learn playing in Russia?
That there is always a place somewhere where you can be a champion.
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:15 pm
by assfly
Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:59 am
He will be a Bok in the near future. He should move to the Cheetahs and learn his trade under the mentorship of an experienced 9, like Ruan Pienaar.
Absolutely rancid.
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2020 3:05 pm
by Chilli
assfly wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 1:15 pm
Chilli wrote: ↑Tue Oct 27, 2020 10:59 am
He will be a Bok in the near future. He should move to the Cheetahs and learn his trade under the mentorship of an experienced 9, like Ruan Pienaar.
Absolutely rancid.
I do try
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 6:56 am
by handyman
Have to say, I'm not sure about Goosen. All the talent in the world, but it seems his head is not screwed on right. What a waste of a great talent.
https://www.news24.com/sport/rugby/spri ... s-20201111
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:39 am
by Chilli
Made out of glass in the early part of his career, but it didn't help that HM played him while injured.
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:44 am
by handyman
Chilli wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:39 am
Made out of glass in the early part of his career, but it didn't help that HM played him while injured.
True. Still, only 28, lots of time left and hopefully lots of Bok tests to come. Gelant is not kicking on, perhaps a good option at fullback with Willie le Roux.
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:05 am
by Sandstorm
handyman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:44 am
Chilli wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:39 am
Made out of glass in the early part of his career, but it didn't help that HM played him while injured.
True. Still, only 28, lots of time left and hopefully lots of Bok tests to come. Gelant is not kicking on, perhaps a good option at fullback with Willie le Roux.
He's the SA Gavin Henson. So much wasted talent.
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:06 am
by Sards
handyman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:44 am
Chilli wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:39 am
Made out of glass in the early part of his career, but it didn't help that HM played him while injured.
True. Still, only 28, lots of time left and hopefully lots of Bok tests to come. Gelant is not kicking on, perhaps a good option at fullback with Willie le Roux.
Gelant saved the Stormers blushes the past weekend....my favorite Stormers player followed by your centre that wants to destroy Frans Steyn
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:11 pm
by average joe
The Goose is now mature enough to look back and admit he made mistakes and that he regrets them. He's still young enough to make a difference, if he can stay healthy.
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:24 pm
by handyman
average joe wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:11 pm
The Goose is now mature enough to look back and admit he made mistakes and that he regrets them. He's still young enough to make a difference, if he can stay healthy.
Let's see him do the talking on the field, rather than in the media then. He should keep his head down.
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2020 1:02 pm
by Sards
average joe wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 12:11 pm
The Goose is now mature enough to look back and admit he made mistakes and that he regrets them. He's still young enough to make a difference, if he can stay healthy.
Some players just cannot get away from injuries.
Marcel Coetzee...always fit and in incredible form until he runs out for the boks.
PSDT...only fit for bok matches otherwise hardly pitches up for a soup matches. Now the Stomps understand the frustration the Sharkies had with him never being available.
Siya Kolisi...watches the breakdown for all bok matches but is never playing for the Stormers or WP.
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:12 am
by assfly
Stephan Lewies has been named captain of Harlequins for the upcoming season.
https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/rugby/ ... 49340.html
Following in the footsteps of Andre Vos who also had a very successful stint there.
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:31 pm
by Cartman
Sards wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:06 am
handyman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:44 am
Chilli wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:39 am
Made out of glass in the early part of his career, but it didn't help that HM played him while injured.
True. Still, only 28, lots of time left and hopefully lots of Bok tests to come. Gelant is not kicking on, perhaps a good option at fullback with Willie le Roux.
Gelant saved the Stormers blushes the past weekend....my favorite Stormers player followed by your centre that wants to destroy Frans Steyn
Galant is fantastically talented
He also always looks to put teammates away rather than go for glory himself - he seems to like doing that too
He and Fassi are the future Bok 15s for me
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:24 pm
by Chilli
Cartman wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:31 pm
Sards wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:06 am
handyman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 8:44 am
True. Still, only 28, lots of time left and hopefully lots of Bok tests to come. Gelant is not kicking on, perhaps a good option at fullback with Willie le Roux.
Gelant saved the Stormers blushes the past weekend....my favorite Stormers player followed by your centre that wants to destroy Frans Steyn
Galant is fantastically talented
He also always looks to put teammates away rather than go for glory himself - he seems to like doing that too
He and Fassi are the future Bok 15s for me
No love for Willemse at 15?
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Mon Nov 16, 2020 8:28 pm
by Cartman
Chilli wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 5:24 pm
Cartman wrote: ↑Mon Nov 16, 2020 4:31 pm
Sards wrote: ↑Thu Nov 12, 2020 9:06 am
Gelant saved the Stormers blushes the past weekend....my favorite Stormers player followed by your centre that wants to destroy Frans Steyn
Galant is fantastically talented
He also always looks to put teammates away rather than go for glory himself - he seems to like doing that too
He and Fassi are the future Bok 15s for me
No love for Willemse at 15?
He was really good this week at 10 after some real average games
Haven't seen much of him at 15
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:38 am
by assfly
Marcell Coetzee scored 4 tries on his 50th game for Ulster.
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:43 am
by handyman
assfly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:38 am
Marcell Coetzee scored 4 tries on his 50th game for Ulster.
I want him back in the Bok squad so badly. One of my favorite players and it's a crying shame that injuries have cost him so many Bok caps.
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:21 am
by Chilli
handyman wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:43 am
assfly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:38 am
Marcell Coetzee scored 4 tries on his 50th game for Ulster.
I want him back in the Bok squad so badly. One of my favorite players and it's a crying shame that injuries have cost him so many Bok caps.
Agreed.
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:25 am
by assfly
handyman wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:43 am
I want him back in the Bok squad so badly. One of my favorite players and it's a crying shame that injuries have cost him so many Bok caps.
I think he'll be key for us against the Lions. He knows the opposition so well.
He just has to stay injury-free for a few more months!
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:27 am
by boere wors
assfly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 8:25 am
handyman wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 7:43 am
I want him back in the Bok squad so badly. One of my favorite players and it's a crying shame that injuries have cost him so many Bok caps.
I think he'll be key for us against the Lions. He knows the opposition so well.
He just has to stay injury-free for a few more months!
Fingers crossed!
Totally agree, he's playing his best rugby currently, would be great to have him fit for the Lions. Especially as he can cover 6,7 and 8
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:28 pm
by Sandstorm
He’ll be great on the bench.
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:02 pm
by boere wors
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:28 pm
He’ll be great on the bench.
He can start at 6 for all I care
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:40 am
by Chilli
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:28 pm
He’ll be great on the bench.
Yes, take over the role that Flo played
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:55 am
by handyman
boere wors wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 10:02 pm
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:28 pm
He’ll be great on the bench.
He can start at 6 for all I care
Seriously. We have Kolisi at 6. This is South Africa. Kolisi is going to play 6 for a while.
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 6:55 am
by handyman
Chilli wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 3:40 am
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Tue Nov 17, 2020 9:28 pm
He’ll be great on the bench.
Yes, take over the role that Flo played
Exactly.
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:57 am
by Sandstorm
How long does a player have to be playing overseas before Saffers no longer worry about his provincial history in SA?
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:58 am
by assfly
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:57 am
How long does a player have to be playing overseas before Saffers no longer worry about his provincial history in SA?
Typical WP fan
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:07 am
by Sandstorm
assfly wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:58 am
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 8:57 am
How long does a player have to be playing overseas before Saffers no longer worry about his provincial history in SA?
Typical WP fan
Serious question. It seems that after a few years overseas eg. Faf or Flo we no longer call them Ex Lions or Stomps and just focus on their actual form.
But if a current Lion or Bull has a dip in form, watch out!!
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:14 am
by assfly
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Wed Nov 18, 2020 9:07 am
Serious question. It seems that after a few years overseas eg. Faf or Flo we no longer call them Ex Lions or Stomps and just focus on their actual form.
But if a current Lion or Bull has a dip in form, watch out!!
It definitely takes a few years, even though it shouldn't. Obviously I follow ex-Sharks players closer than other Saffas abroad, but I genuinely enjoy seeing all of our players do well.
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:29 am
by Chilli
Sale: 15 Luke James, 14 Denny Solomona, 13 Sam James, 12 Rohan Janse van Rensburg, 11 Simon Hammersley, 10 AJ MacGinty, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Daniel du Preez, 7 Ben Curry, 6 Jono Ross (captain) 5 Jean-Luc du Preez, 4 Cobus Wiese, 3 Coenie Oosthuizen, 2 Akker van der Merwe, 1 Valery Morozov.
Replacements: 16 Curtis Langdon, 17 Bevan Rodd, 18 Jake Cooper-Woolley, 19 James Phillips, 20 Matt Postlethwaite, 21 Will Cliff, 22 Rob du Preez, 23 Marland Yarde
Damn, there are a lot of us in that team.
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:53 am
by OomStruisbaai
Team talk in afrikaans?
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 6:58 am
by Chilli
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:53 am
Team talk in afrikaans?
At least the important parts will be.
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:01 pm
by Chilli
SPOTLIGHT: Western Province may not have been able to do much about his departure, but the loss of the value Cobus Wiese can add to a team was clearly illustrated the past fortnight.
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As the maxim goes: ‘You don’t realise what you have until you lose it.’
Wiese was not always a regular starter in Cape Town – be that the Stormers or WP.
However, he would have been handy in the 20-22 loss to the Bulls in their brutal Currie Cup Round One match at Newlands this past weekend.
Wiese moved to the English Premiership side Sale Sharks ahead of the 2020–21 season.
He has featured in both their matches this season – a 32-23 win over Northampton Saints and a 13-15 loss to Newcastle Falcons, playing 133 minutes.
Wiese has racked up some impressive stats in those two outings.
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He made 18 tackles against the Falcons this past weekend, for a Premiership season total of 33.
Add in his four line-outs won against the Falcons (seven for the season) and you are beginning to get a sense of his real value.
Wiese, one of 11 South Africans in the Sale squad, played at lock in both matches.
His brother Jasper, playing for Leicester Tigers, is another player who will be missed by his former South African team – the Cheetahs.
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Jasper Wiese made 12 tackles in the Tigers’ 9-22 Round Two loss to London Irish.
However, it is his ball-carrying ability that really made him stand out.
Jasper Wiese made 15 carries against the Exiles for 65 metres and three defenders beaten – 26 carries for the season, for 138 metres.
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 4:43 am
by Sards
The twins were a huge loss to the Sharks. As well as Akker and Coenie. Left a huge gap to be filled and tbh its quite surprising that the Sharks have done so well with a new team. From 15 to 1. Full of unknown players who are not in the Springbok line of sight. Full credit to Everett.
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:32 am
by assfly
I didn't realise that Tyrone Green had signed with Harlequins.
Leicester have also got a distinctly South African look to them too.
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Thu Dec 03, 2020 9:57 am
by Sards
assfly wrote: ↑Thu Dec 03, 2020 5:32 am
I didn't realise that Tyrone Green had signed with Harlequins.
Huge loss to South Africa
Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 07, 2020 6:12 am
by assfly
AE red carded last night for an elbow to the face of another player.
I thought it was a bit harsh as the footage was terrible and the ball had long left the ruck and players were all getting up. Such a shame as he's been in good form.
