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Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:07 am**

Rinkals wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:05 am
I like neeps wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:45 pm
Boris Johnson is in Cornwall to discuss a greener future with the G7 so naturally uses a plane to fly there from London.
Looks a bit like a Trump mini-me.

Trump without the brains

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:27 am**

Speaking as someone who's travelled to St Ives via train its not unreasonable to use a plane if your Prime Minister IMO - the environmental hypocrisy is baked into every G7 leader anyway.

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:34 am**

sturginho wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:07 am
Rinkals wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:05 am
I like neeps wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:45 pm

Boris Johnson is in Cornwall to discuss a greener future with the G7 so naturally uses a plane to fly there from London.
Looks a bit like a Trump mini-me.
Trump without the brains

He can speak Italian, French and Latin fluently. He's not stupid but apparantly lacks the thoughfullness you would want from a leader IMO

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:52 am**

tc27 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:34 am
sturginho wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:07 am
Rinkals wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:05 am

Looks a bit like a Trump mini-me.
Trump without the brains

He can speak Italian, French and Latin fluently. He's not stupid but apparantly lacks the thoughfullness you would want from a leader IMO

There is a very big difference in being learned and self-confident as a result of an expensive education and being talented and intelligent.

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:57 am**

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:52 am
tc27 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:34 am
sturginho wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:07 am

Trump without the brains

He can speak Italian, French and Latin fluently. He's not stupid but apparantly lacks the thoughfullness you would want from a leader IMO

There is a very big difference in being learned and self-confident as a result of an expensive education and being talented and intelligent.

Agree with this to an extent but the point stands that BJ is obviously not stupid by any real meaning of the word. He is far better suited to pithy articles in the Telegraph than being leader of a G7 nation though

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:58 am**

tc27 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:27 am Speaking as someone who's travelled to St Ives via train its not unreasonable to use a plane if your Prime Minister IMO - the environmental hypocrisy is baked into every G7 leader anyway.

Cornwall is a 5 hour train journey - not convinced we'd see people losing it if Boris flew from London to Glasgow.

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:06 am**

tc27 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:57 am
Tichtheid wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:52 am
tc27 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:34 am

He can speak Italian, French and Latin fluently. He's not stupid but apparantly lacks the thoughfullness you would want from a leader IMO

There is a very big difference in being learned and self-confident as a result of an expensive education and being talented and intelligent.
Agree with this to an extent but the point stands that BJ is obviously not stupid by any real meaning of the word. He is far better suited to pithy articles in the Telegraph than being leader of a G7 nation though

He tended to lie and make stuff up when he did that, too.

Bumbling Classics Prof at an obscure university would keep most of us out of harm's way, or at least out of the way of his personal ambition.

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:25 am**

tc27 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:34 am
sturginho wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:07 am
Rinkals wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:05 am

Looks a bit like a Trump mini-me.
Trump without the brains

He can speak Italian, French and Latin fluently. He's not stupid but apparantly lacks the thoughfullness you would want from a leader IMO

I don't know about his French & Italian; but his Latin reflects the 2:2 he was awarded.

Most of the time he tries blinding the plebs with his latin; he makes a balls of it, & gets it wrong; but the obscurity of latin means that the plebs are still impressed. He most certainly isn't, "fluent"

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:37 am**

I suppose my view is regardless of who is PM I have no problem with them using VIP transport and indeed think they should. Whimsical displays of using public transport for appearances sake do nothing to convince me of a leaders virtue.

The environmental criticism is fair enough given the 'green agenda' they espouse but thats a seperate issue.

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:41 am**

To be fair I guess the security implications and escort of a PM using public transport would be disruptive to other passengers. Still think he should experienced the trip the way other grockles have to though

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 11:45 am**

Lots of "I don't recall", "don't recollect" and "I was following advice" from Hancock at the Select Committee this morning.
Denying there was ever a shortage of PPE! Yeah right!!!

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 1:21 pm**

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 10:25 am
tc27 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:34 am
sturginho wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:07 am

Trump without the brains

He can speak Italian, French and Latin fluently. He's not stupid but apparantly lacks the thoughfullness you would want from a leader IMO
I don't know about his French & Italian; but his Latin reflects the 2:2 he was awarded.

Most of the time he tries blinding the plebs with his latin; he makes a balls of it, & gets it wrong; but the obscurity of latin means that the plebs are still impressed. He most certainly isn't, "fluent"

Agreed - his latin is pretty poor and usually just random collection of latin words or a memorised phrase from his school days taken out of context. Lets not confuse the benefit of a very expensive education with innate intelligence!

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 3:07 pm**

Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:58 am
tc27 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 9:27 am Speaking as someone who's travelled to St Ives via train its not unreasonable to use a plane if your Prime Minister IMO - the environmental hypocrisy is baked into every G7 leader anyway.
Cornwall is a 5 hour train journey - not convinced we'd see people losing it if Boris flew from London to Glasgow.

The practice flight the day before could be deemed unacceptable tbf

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:40 pm**

Napier Barracks: Opposition MPs call for Priti Patel to resign

Opposition MPs have called on the home secretary to resign after documents suggested she misled parliament over her decision to house asylum seekers at Kent's controversial Napier Barracks. Health officials, inspectors and a High Court judge have examined concerns dormitory use led to a Covid outbreak.

Priti Patel said in February that "use of the accommodation was all based on Public Health England (PHE) advice". However, a Home Office email said PHE advice viewed dorms as unsuitable.

Amid calls in the Commons for Ms Patel to resign, SNP MP Joanna Cherry said: "What she said - that the department had previously followed public health guidance regarding Napier Barracks in every single way - was simply not factually correct."

She asked: "Why isn't the home secretary tendering her resignation as Amber Rudd (the former home secretary) had the grace and decency to do?"

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-57432760

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:16 pm**

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 6:25 pm
I like neeps wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:45 pm
Boris Johnson is in Cornwall to discuss a greener future with the G7 so naturally uses a plane to fly there from London.
Have you ever tried to get to Cornwall from London and hoped to get there on time without a jet?

That depends how much time you give yourself to get there.

Posted: **Thu Jun 10, 2021 8:48 pm**

As good a thread as any…. BBC documentary tonight about the Bristol mayor - there is a PM in the making! Extraordinary guy

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:20 pm**

Hmm. Popular Labour politician who seems to have handled his budget well and faced the Colston statute issue with intelligence. Savage cuts from central funding and relentless attacks from Corbyn's Cultists ahoy!

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 12:26 pm**

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Thu Jun 10, 2021 4:40 pm
Napier Barracks: Opposition MPs call for Priti Patel to resign

Opposition MPs have called on the home secretary to resign after documents suggested she misled parliament over her decision to house asylum seekers at Kent's controversial Napier Barracks. Health officials, inspectors and a High Court judge have examined concerns dormitory use led to a Covid outbreak.

Priti Patel said in February that "use of the accommodation was all based on Public Health England (PHE) advice". However, a Home Office email said PHE advice viewed dorms as unsuitable.

Amid calls in the Commons for Ms Patel to resign, SNP MP Joanna Cherry said: "What she said - that the department had previously followed public health guidance regarding Napier Barracks in every single way - was simply not factually correct."

She asked: "Why isn't the home secretary tendering her resignation as Amber Rudd (the former home secretary) had the grace and decency to do?"
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-57432760

That should secure her position for another 6 months at least.

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:01 pm**

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:04 pm**

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:01 pm

How convenient!!!

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 2:04 pm**

An "IT glitch" has lost the phone records (calls and texts) of her discussions with two Police chiefs over the Extinction Rebellion blockade of the Newsprinters site.

It's amazing how these things keep happening, like poor old Jennifer Acuri's laptop getting stolen from her car.

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:31 pm**

To lose one phone record may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose both looks like carelessness.

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:07 pm**

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 11, 2021 10:31 pm To lose one phone record may be regarded as a misfortune; to lose both looks like carelessness.

On the contrary, it looks rather carefully handled to me.

Their supporters will "pah" and roll eyes, and exaggerate ad absurdum to deflect, of course, as will most of the press, tbh.

No one is holding them to account

Posted: **Fri Jun 11, 2021 11:09 pm**

"Lessons will be learned."

Posted: **Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:18 am**

I like neeps wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:45 pm
Boris Johnson is in Cornwall to discuss a greener future with the G7 so naturally uses a plane to fly there from London.

Bearing in mind the PM's entourage will be about 40 strong plus press security etc. I would say it makes perfect sense to fly but lets bash Boris, because, well you know...

Posted: **Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:47 am**

Openside wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:18 am
I like neeps wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:45 pm
Boris Johnson is in Cornwall to discuss a greener future with the G7 so naturally uses a plane to fly there from London.
Bearing in mind the PM's entourage will be about 40 strong plus press security etc. I would say it makes perfect sense to fly but lets bash Boris, because, well you know...

There is no world in which even 40 people flying internally is the most environmentally friendly way of travel. But let's simp Boris, because, well you know...

Posted: **Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:14 am**

I like neeps wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:47 am
Openside wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:18 am
I like neeps wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:45 pm

Boris Johnson is in Cornwall to discuss a greener future with the G7 so naturally uses a plane to fly there from London.
Bearing in mind the PM's entourage will be about 40 strong plus press security etc. I would say it makes perfect sense to fly but lets bash Boris, because, well you know...
There is no world in which even 40 people flying internally is the most environmentally friendly way of travel. But let's simp Boris, because, well you know...

There are a lot more things that need to be considered at these type of events than ‘the environment’ but bitch and moan away it seems to keep you happy…

Posted: **Sun Jun 13, 2021 10:49 am**

Openside wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:14 am
I like neeps wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:47 am
Openside wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:18 am

Bearing in mind the PM's entourage will be about 40 strong plus press security etc. I would say it makes perfect sense to fly but lets bash Boris, because, well you know...
There is no world in which even 40 people flying internally is the most environmentally friendly way of travel. But let's simp Boris, because, well you know...
There are a lot more things that need to be considered at these type of events than ‘the environment’ but bitch and moan away it seems to keep you happy…

Not according to the blonde slug it aint. The two most important things on the agenda are the global pandemic and the global climate crisis! THough unfortunately they have been somewhat overshadowed by the European "sausage and mince" crisis that for some reason our twat of a PM didn't see coming even though he signed it all off as over and done with less than 6 months ago

Posted: **Sun Jun 13, 2021 11:14 am**

Openside wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 8:14 am
I like neeps wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:47 am
Openside wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:18 am

Bearing in mind the PM's entourage will be about 40 strong plus press security etc. I would say it makes perfect sense to fly but lets bash Boris, because, well you know...
There is no world in which even 40 people flying internally is the most environmentally friendly way of travel. But let's simp Boris, because, well you know...
There are a lot more things that need to be considered at these type of events than ‘the environment’ but bitch and moan away it seems to keep you happy…

You should tell him that mate he's the one saying the environment is a key part of the agenda not me.

Posted: **Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:10 pm**

Openside wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:18 am
I like neeps wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:45 pm
Boris Johnson is in Cornwall to discuss a greener future with the G7 so naturally uses a plane to fly there from London.
Bearing in mind the PM's entourage will be about 40 strong plus press security etc. I would say it makes perfect sense to fly but lets bash Boris, because, well you know...

Were the Red Arrows an intrinsic part of the security for the event too ?

Posted: **Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:41 pm**

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:10 pm
Openside wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:18 am
I like neeps wrote: ↑Wed Jun 09, 2021 5:45 pm

Boris Johnson is in Cornwall to discuss a greener future with the G7 so naturally uses a plane to fly there from London.
Bearing in mind the PM's entourage will be about 40 strong plus press security etc. I would say it makes perfect sense to fly but lets bash Boris, because, well you know...
Were the Red Arrows an intrinsic part of the security for the event too ?

I really don’t care, you can never see enough of the red arrows!! We really have become a nation of spineless whingers.

Posted: **Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:55 pm**

If he drove down he’d still be sitting in traffic. As for the train, he’d be after the replacement bus and be in traffic.

Posted: **Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:05 pm**

Openside wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:41 pm
fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:10 pm
Openside wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 7:18 am

Bearing in mind the PM's entourage will be about 40 strong plus press security etc. I would say it makes perfect sense to fly but lets bash Boris, because, well you know...
Were the Red Arrows an intrinsic part of the security for the event too ?
I really don’t care, you can never see enough of the red arrows!! We really have become a nation of spineless whingers.

I love the red arrows and hopefully they will continue to be funded but tell me more about these “spineless whingers”

Posted: **Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:54 pm**

SaintK wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:05 pm
Openside wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:41 pm
fishfoodie wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:10 pm

Were the Red Arrows an intrinsic part of the security for the event too ?
I really don’t care, you can never see enough of the red arrows!! We really have become a nation of spineless whingers.
I love the red arrows and hopefully they will continue to be funded but tell me more about these “spineless whingers”

What do you want to know? We have become a complain culture…

Posted: **Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:11 pm**

Posted: **Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:11 pm**

If there’s a poll regarding the issue I’m perfectly content that the PMs travel arrangements can be different from those of the rest of us, if only for security.

Posted: **Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:15 pm**

GogLais wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:11 pm If there’s a poll regarding the issue I’m perfectly content that the PMs travel arrangements can be different from those of the rest of us, if only for security.

He regularly travels on trains, coaches and cars. Nothing to do with security.

He probably flew because the roads and rail go the SW are so poor.

Posted: **Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:26 pm**

I like neeps wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:15 pm
GogLais wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 5:11 pm If there’s a poll regarding the issue I’m perfectly content that the PMs travel arrangements can be different from those of the rest of us, if only for security.
He regularly travels on trains, coaches and cars. Nothing to do with security.

He probably flew because the roads and rail go the SW are so poor.

Money for consultants, for the moronic idea of a tunnel to NI; but the transport links to the SW mean you have to take a plane trip

Posted: **Mon Jun 14, 2021 8:59 am**

Openside wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:54 pm
SaintK wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:05 pm
Openside wrote: ↑Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:41 pm

I really don’t care, you can never see enough of the red arrows!! We really have become a nation of spineless whingers.
I love the red arrows and hopefully they will continue to be funded but tell me more about these “spineless whingers”
What do you want to know? We have become a complain culture…

We don't complain anywhere near enough in this country and put up with far too much third rate bollocks in our lives.

Posted: **Mon Jun 14, 2021 12:32 pm**

Mixed messages just for a change!

Boris Johnson said he disapproves of England fans booing the national team for taking the knee in protest against racism.
The prime minister said he backed England players and could see “no reason” to boo them, though he did suggest the team's chosen method of protest was ineffective.
“I support England’s players,” Mr Johnson said when asked by Channel 5 about taking the knee ahead of England's first Euro 2020 game.

Footballs fans have a right to boo and jeer the England team for “taking the knee” in protest at racism, the Home Secretary has said.
Priti Patel said the anti-racism protest associated with the Black Lives Matter movement amounted to “gesture politics” and dodged a question about whether she would boo herself.

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