Blackmac wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:32 am
I see Dr Michael Mosely's body has been found on Symi, less than 10 meters from Symi town and potential safety. Likely to have died of heatstroke. Whilst he seemed reasonably well equipped with his sun brolly it's sadly another example of the "mad dogs and Englishmen" saying.
The suspicious ex detective in me says there will be slightly more to the reasons for his attempts to walk back to town other than the going for a stroll suggestion.
The body wasn't that close to Symi or Pedi, the last town he was seen in, but it was only a few metres away from a bar at Agia Marina beach (lying just outside the fence around the bar area), so even closer to safety.
Apologies, when they said the marina, I presumed the main one down at Symi. I know where you are now as we popped in there on a boat trip.
We went to Symi three years ago in June and I think it was pretty close to being the hottest few days I have ever experienced. I went for an early morning hike to explore the small buildings on the hill above the harbour and it just about floored me.
Sad news that raises all sorts of questions. I've been following the story and not being familiar with that part of the world, googled up. Looking at the map of the area it's hard to believe anyone could be struck down with heatstroke with buildings and people all around... especially someone with a medical background who must have realised he was in some degree of distress. The heat can knock you around of course, but it's not instant. I wonder if he might have suffered heart issues or perhaps something like a stroke?
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:22 pm
by Enzedder
Snake has taken up the whistle - good man
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:46 pm
by fishfoodie
Here's a question for the big brains on here.
WTF do I need a Philips head screwdriver to open a UK/IE Plug, & Loosen the cable, but a slot head screwdriver to loosen the terminals ???
Why couldn't they just use Philips screws throughout ?
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:30 pm
by Uncle fester
fishfoodie wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:46 pm
Here's a question for the big brains on here.
WTF do I need a Philips head screwdriver to open a UK/IE Plug, & Loosen the cable, but a slot head screwdriver to loosen the terminals ???
Why couldn't they just use Philips screws throughout ?
It's to prevent over torquing the terminal head.
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:32 pm
by Uncle fester
Note that quite a lot of modern "Philips screws" are actually pozidrive screws.
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:49 pm
by fishfoodie
Uncle fester wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:32 pm
Note that quite a lot of modern "Philips screws" are actually pozidrive screws.
Damn you with your sensible, logical response !!! < shakes fist >
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:59 pm
by fishfoodie
Has anyone any experience of trying to provoke being offered redundancy, without giving their employers an opportunity to fire them for cause ?
As I mentioned previously, we've had another major RIF, & now I'm one of the few left behind, & frankly don't feel like hanging around another six months, & would much prefer to have the summer off !
.... as it happens, at the end of last week into my inbox dropped a request for a meeting with the manager just below our CIO, boy would I love to give them a piece of my mind; but I'm so pissed off at the moment, I think I'm just going to turn off my few very filters, & give honest responses to any questions, which might just get me fired, but I really just couldn't give a fuck at the moment, even though I would prefer to take the cash & run.
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:59 am
by Enzedder
Yep, I did about 30 years ago from a Bank. Got 6 months pay to leave after I warned the union about upcoming redundancies. Bosses were not happy so after they informed the staff affected (I refused to do that), I asked for a redundancy offer. I had it in 30 minutes, asked to chat to the wife, asked them to double it and they did.
They tried to insert a clause about not getting involved in upcoming litigation from the other staff but I just crossed that out and signed the form.
The body wasn't that close to Symi or Pedi, the last town he was seen in, but it was only a few metres away from a bar at Agia Marina beach (lying just outside the fence around the bar area), so even closer to safety.
Apologies, when they said the marina, I presumed the main one down at Symi. I know where you are now as we popped in there on a boat trip.
We went to Symi three years ago in June and I think it was pretty close to being the hottest few days I have ever experienced. I went for an early morning hike to explore the small buildings on the hill above the harbour and it just about floored me.
Sad news that raises all sorts of questions. I've been following the story and not being familiar with that part of the world, googled up. Looking at the map of the area it's hard to believe anyone could be struck down with heatstroke with buildings and people all around... especially someone with a medical background who must have realised he was in some degree of distress. The heat can knock you around of course, but it's not instant. I wonder if he might have suffered heart issues or perhaps something like a stroke?
From what I can recall of our visit I don't think there would be anyone actually living where he was found it was just a bar/restaurant on a very secluded beach so if he has arrived after everyone left?
If you look at the pictures it is just not a route and sane person would attempt to hike, for no reason in the middle of the day. The whole thing just defies logic.
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 7:29 am
by Tichtheid
Guy Smiley wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 5:31 am
This...
is cool.
Love it
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2024 10:23 am
by Slick
Enzedder wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:22 pm
Snake has taken up the whistle - good man
Funny thing with him, he kind of flew under the radar up here for a little while because of the superstars that played alongside him, then almost at once everyone realised how important he was
Funny thing with him, he kind of flew under the radar up here for a little while because of the superstars that played alongside him, then almost at once everyone realised how important he was
Very true, often wondered why they couldn't find anyone else, then he ended up one of my favourite players of all time.
Funny thing with him, he kind of flew under the radar up here for a little while because of the superstars that played alongside him, then almost at once everyone realised how important he was
Very true, often wondered why they couldn't find anyone else, then he ended up one of my favourite players of all time.
Yup... just quietly got on with the business of being one of the best players in a team full of stars.
Uncle fester wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 10:32 pm
Note that quite a lot of modern "Philips screws" are actually pozidrive screws.
Damn you with your sensible, logical response !!! < shakes fist >
Philips screws actually aren't great for camming out either. They came about because Henry Ford didn't want to pay for Robertson screws.
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:28 am
by mat the expat
Enzedder wrote: Mon Jun 10, 2024 12:59 am
Yep, I did about 30 years ago from a Bank. Got 6 months pay to leave after I warned the union about upcoming redundancies. Bosses were not happy so after they informed the staff affected (I refused to do that), I asked for a redundancy offer. I had it in 30 minutes, asked to chat to the wife, asked them to double it and they did.
They tried to insert a clause about not getting involved in upcoming litigation from the other staff but I just crossed that out and signed the form.
Started my own business 4 weeks later.
I did the same by volunteering - but it doesn't always work out.
Being a provocative fucker did help though
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:20 am
by Niegs
Enzedder wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 7:22 pm
Snake has taken up the whistle - good man
So, being an ex-pro, he'll get the NPC final and a T2 test this autumn so he can be a full panel Super Rugby ref next season?
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:26 am
by Enzedder
Nah, he's reffing women for fun is my guess. However, if he starts to enjoy it, who knows.
I see that Glen Jackson has now moved from player, to ref to coach as he is taking over the reins with the Drua next season
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:40 am
by Guy Smiley
Enzedder wrote: Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:26 am
Nah, he's reffing women for fun is my guess. However, if he starts to enjoy it, who knows.
I see that Glen Jackson has now moved from player, to ref to coach as he is taking over the reins with the Drua next season
Quite an interesting career progression for Glen Jackson. The reason I ended up staying in the BoP is I have a mate here, we worked together in WA and later in SA. His recently deceased Dad was friends with GJ, he used to work for him occasionally on his farm up the back of Whakamarama... it's a weirdly small world at times.GJ was assistant coach at the Drua this year I think, under Mick Byrne, who is moving to take over the national team. I hope it goes well for everyone involved, there's been some serious development work put into the Drua with obvious progress made.
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Tue Jun 11, 2024 6:19 pm
by Guy Smiley
Speaking of interesting career progressions, David Pocock is doing Very Good Things. Half hour doco here outlining his progression from Zimbabwe schoolboy through professional rugby and into the Australian Senate. This is a bit over a year old now and I've followed some of his work within the Australian parliament. He's a formidable performer who doesn't waste time beating around the bush, he goes straight in hard. I'm a fan.
I was in the back of a Tesla today for the first time, a taxi. I could barely get in the thing, I had to dislocate my neck and carry my head with me to get into the seat, slight exaggeration, but it would have been handy to be able to do that. Then my head was pressed against the glass roof for the duration of the journey, luckily it was only about ten minutes.
I'm not that tall, six one maybe a skoosh over but not much. Anyone taller than that would really struggle.
So that's Tesla off the list when I look for a new car shortly, it didn't look like the driver had much more room.
I quite liked the screen though, the accurate live traffic and whatever else is around you along with the satnav map is a good thing - given that my car is 21 years old I'm easily impressed with stuff like that.
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 4:26 pm
by inactionman
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 3:24 pm
I was in the back of a Tesla today for the first time, a taxi. I could barely get in the thing, I had to dislocate my neck and carry my head with me to get into the seat, slight exaggeration, but it would have been handy to be able to do that. Then my head was pressed against the glass roof for the duration of the journey, luckily it was only about ten minutes.
I'm not that tall, six one maybe a skoosh over but not much. Anyone taller than that would really struggle.
So that's Tesla off the list when I look for a new car shortly, it didn't look like the driver had much more room.
I quite liked the screen though, the accurate live traffic and whatever else is around you along with the satnav map is a good thing - given that my car is 21 years old I'm easily impressed with stuff like that.
My car has re-routing if traffic is bad, which generally works OK. It's not a live view as, well, I should reasonably be looking at the road and instead letting the car notify me of problems on my planned route.
Tesla has done well on the integrationo f things like that, but the whole user experience seems mad and its a case of 'look what we can do' rather than 'we should do this'. Car companies in the 90s in particular spent a fortune on human interface/interaction specialists to get away from small, fiddly buttons and replace these with easy to grasp dials and controls that were intuitively placed and could be located by touch. Car radios are good examples of this. A flat screen goes against this (I am aware there is voice control as well, it's not a perfect system)
Tichtheid wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 3:24 pm
I was in the back of a Tesla today for the first time, a taxi. I could barely get in the thing, I had to dislocate my neck and carry my head with me to get into the seat, slight exaggeration, but it would have been handy to be able to do that. Then my head was pressed against the glass roof for the duration of the journey, luckily it was only about ten minutes.
I'm not that tall, six one maybe a skoosh over but not much. Anyone taller than that would really struggle.
So that's Tesla off the list when I look for a new car shortly, it didn't look like the driver had much more room.
I quite liked the screen though, the accurate live traffic and whatever else is around you along with the satnav map is a good thing - given that my car is 21 years old I'm easily impressed with stuff like that.
My car has re-routing if traffic is bad, which generally works OK. It's not a live view as, well, I should reasonably be looking at the road and instead letting the car notify me of problems on my planned route.
Tesla has done well on the integrationo f things like that, but the whole user experience seems mad and its a case of 'look what we can do' rather than 'we should do this'. Car companies in the 90s in particular spent a fortune on human interface/interaction specialists to get away from small, fiddly buttons and replace these with easy to grasp dials and controls that were intuitively placed and could be located by touch. Car radios are good examples of this. A flat screen goes against this (I am aware there is voice control as well, it's not a perfect system)
Yeah, I'd probably find the screen a distraction. I use my phone as a satnav and I find it much better to have it directly in front of me so that it only takes a quick glance down to view it, rather than across and down - I think I'd get pissed off with it and ignore it, and then start using my phone again. (the taxi driver had to take a hand off the wheel to zoom in on the map to see which turning to take - not good)
I guess they will project satnav on to the windscreen soon enough if they haven't already done so - my brother's car has projection of speed etc on his.
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:32 pm
by Guy Smiley
I've got an EV that uses a large central screen for controlling most of the car's functions and I don't like it. I'm a laggard when it comes to using voice control, I prefer the tactile experience of switches... so I end up using the screen for controlling stuff like ac and navigation. Basically, I think it's dangerous, a deliberate distraction that takes the driver's eyes off the road and here in NZ, we don't have the space or time for that malarkey.
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:47 pm
by fishfoodie
Well I don't think you guys will be ordering an cybertruck anytime soon.
Thanks to the beautiful, & practical design, there's no rearview mirror, instead you just have the honking big display & a rear facing camera.
And I believe they moved all the stalk controls to the touch screen too, so you have to take your hand off the wheel, look over to the display, & find the indicator icon, to do one of the most common action you have driving in any city; fucking idiotic !
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:47 pm
by Guy Smiley
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:51 pm
by Biffer
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:47 pm
Well I don't think you guys will be ordering an cybertruck anytime soon.
Thanks to the beautiful, & practical design, there's no rearview mirror, instead you just have the honking big display & a rear facing camera.
And I believe they moved all the stalk controls to the touch screen too, so you have to take your hand off the wheel, look over to the display, & find the indicator icon, to do one of the most common action you have driving in any city; fucking idiotic !
I won't be buying one because they're ugly pieces of shit.
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:47 pm
Well I don't think you guys will be ordering an cybertruck anytime soon.
Thanks to the beautiful, & practical design, there's no rearview mirror, instead you just have the honking big display & a rear facing camera.
And I believe they moved all the stalk controls to the touch screen too, so you have to take your hand off the wheel, look over to the display, & find the indicator icon, to do one of the most common action you have driving in any city; fucking idiotic !
I won't be buying one because they're ugly pieces of shit.
They're almost unbelievably shithouse. Elon's Wankwagon.
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Wed Jun 12, 2024 6:10 pm
by Dinsdale Piranha
Guy Smiley wrote: Wed Jun 12, 2024 5:32 pm
I've got an EV that uses a large central screen for controlling most of the car's functions and I don't like it. I'm a laggard when it comes to using voice control, I prefer the tactile experience of switches... so I end up using the screen for controlling stuff like ac and navigation. Basically, I think it's dangerous, a deliberate distraction that takes the driver's eyes off the road and here in NZ, we don't have the space or time for that malarkey.
I really don't like screens for anything you might need to change while driving but you can mess up buttons as well. A friend recently bought a newish BMW and we counted 78 buttons, as well as the small flat screen. That's awful design if you ask me.
On the plus side it was ridiculously smooth and quiet compared to anything i've been in recently.
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2024 2:31 am
by Niegs
It gets better!
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:41 am
by Margin__Walker
That has me torn.
Part of me thinks you shouldn't really be tasing non threatening pitch invaders.
The other part of me thinks that it would be a tremendous entertainment.
Re: Things that don't deserve their own thread
Posted: Thu Jun 13, 2024 8:19 am
by PornDog
Margin__Walker wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:41 am
That has me torn.
Part of me thinks you shouldn't really be tasing non threatening pitch invaders.
The other part of me thinks that it would be a tremendous entertainment.
They absolutely shouldn't - Yank's rules of engagement for both lethal and non-lethal weaponry are completely fucked up.
I do get the entertainment value of course, but apart from the novelty is it really that different to them getting a full on face planting tackle into the dirt?
Margin__Walker wrote: Thu Jun 13, 2024 5:41 am
That has me torn.
Part of me thinks you shouldn't really be tasing non threatening pitch invaders.
The other part of me thinks that it would be a tremendous entertainment.
They absolutely shouldn't - Yank's rules of engagement for both lethal and non-lethal weaponry are completely fucked up.
I do get the entertainment value of course, but apart from the novelty is it really that different to them getting a full on face planting tackle into the dirt?
Oh, sure. Very much tongue in cheek. Tasing pitch invaders is mental if they aren't physically threatening assaulting anyone.
