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OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:05 pm Look like Italy won the WC.

sturginho wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:04 pm Back to back wins against England

sturginho wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:06 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:05 pm Look like Italy won the WC.

A shame we shat the bed against Wales, would have loved to see how they got on against the baby boks

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:44 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:41 pm Like the English 14.

I suspect he'll be one of a long line of England U20s who end up playing for Wales, his dad was a Welsh international.

GogLais wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:15 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:44 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:41 pm Like the English 14.

I suspect he'll be one of a long line of England U20s who end up playing for Wales, his dad was a Welsh international.

Who’s that?

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:46 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:43 pm Jokeshop England, likely to be 1 win from 4 simply, unacceptable for a country with the resources we do. If this is what we have waiting for us in 3 or 4 years then England are truly fucked.

Just lack of basic skills, passing is shocking its depressing the ehole coaching staff if they had any integrity would simply walk.

It doesn't really matter for us, it's unusual to get more than 1 or 2 future internationals from an U20s cohort. There's so much talent in the academies, championship and universities that comes through we don't have to be unduly concerned by a poor crop.

Coaches definitely need looking at, though.

notfatcat wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:55 pm

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:46 pm

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:43 pm Jokeshop England, likely to be 1 win from 4 simply, unacceptable for a country with the resources we do. If this is what we have waiting for us in 3 or 4 years then England are truly fucked.

Just lack of basic skills, passing is shocking its depressing the ehole coaching staff if they had any integrity would simply walk.

It doesn't really matter for us, it's unusual to get more than 1 or 2 future internationals from an U20s cohort. There's so much talent in the academies, championship and universities that comes through we don't have to be unduly concerned by a poor crop.

Coaches definitely need looking at, though.

No way is that right. Maybe for the odd year, plus of course recent years are hard to count while the players are still early in their careers.

I'm with ASMO - if this is the standard of U20 rugby that we can expect then the future aint looking too bright.

_Os_ wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:34 pm Junior Boks got better as the tournament went on. Some very good players in this team.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:03 pm Bokkies really played well in the final. To much of everything. Wales came back in the end and score some nice tries.

C69 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:10 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:03 pm Bokkies really played well in the final. To much of everything. Wales came back in the end and score some nice tries.

SA were very good and very smart with the ref especially.
The score really flattered Wales, they made schoolboy errors and the basics were lacking.
SA looked very well coached and mostly disciplined

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:54 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:10 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:03 pm Bokkies really played well in the final. To much of everything. Wales came back in the end and score some nice tries.

SA were very good and very smart with the ref especially.
The score really flattered Wales, they made schoolboy errors and the basics were lacking.
SA looked very well coached and mostly disciplined

Cheers Boet. Hope to see these youngsters playing in the URC from next year.

sturginho wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:04 pm Back to back wins against England

TheFrog wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:07 pm

sturginho wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:04 pm Back to back wins against England

Hats off. Italy is doing some serious building.

C69 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:01 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:54 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:10 pm

SA were very good and very smart with the ref especially.
The score really flattered Wales, they made schoolboy errors and the basics were lacking.
SA looked very well coached and mostly disciplined

Cheers Boet. Hope to see these youngsters playing in the URC from next year.

One of your props looks about 30

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:53 am

C69 wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:01 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:54 pm

Cheers Boet. Hope to see these youngsters playing in the URC from next year.

One of your props looks about 30

No Boet, the SA players are all u20. We have enough depth to stay within the rules.

We used this tournament to reward our u20 top players while the 6 nation countries probably use it more to develop for the next 6 nations u20 tournament.

freddie wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:19 pm

TheFrog wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 10:07 pm

sturginho wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:04 pm Back to back wins against England

Hats off. Italy is doing some serious building.

Or was ... hasn't the new Italian Rugby President been elected partly because he promised to undo the underage set up and give control back to the clubs? Is that actually going to happen? Seems a terrible shame if it does :-(

“The success is a reward for long process and it’s been a wonderful journey for the players since we assembled as a training group in Stellenbosch,” he said.

“We haven’t played international rugby this year and for us to be standing here (after winning the final against Wales) speaks volumes for what the boys have achieved and the work behind the scenes.

“Our SA Rugby Academy programme, and then this Summer Series in Italy, required a huge amount of detailed planning and I want to thank our entire management – from the coaches, medical, technical and conditioning staff – for making everything work so effectively during this period of time.”

The squad of 30 players also included a couple of 18 and 19 year olds, meaning they would be eligible for the Junior Boks next year again.

“The biggest thing for (the 18 and 19 year olds) is the incredible learnings from this experience and going home a bit hungrier, to be better – and perhaps they’ve put themselves in a position where they will be in the mix again next year,” he said.

Junior Springbok captain Sacha Mngomezulu said playing in the U20 Summer Series was a dream come true for him and the team.

“It’s an amazing feeling standing here unbeaten after four games,” said Mngomezulu.

“Not too long ago, we didn't even play rugby, so credit to World Rugby and the Six Nations for staging this excellent tournament. They allowed the boys to create life-long memories.”

GogLais wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:58 pm Am I misunderstanding something? When I saw the pools they’re obviously based on some sort of ranking. With all due respect to Italy, etc. what was the point of pitting the winners of A against B?

sturginho wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:10 pm

GogLais wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:58 pm Am I misunderstanding something? When I saw the pools they’re obviously based on some sort of ranking. With all due respect to Italy, etc. what was the point of pitting the winners of A against B?

I think the point may have been to give the home team an easy group

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:31 pm

sturginho wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:10 pm

GogLais wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:58 pm Am I misunderstanding something? When I saw the pools they’re obviously based on some sort of ranking. With all due respect to Italy, etc. what was the point of pitting the winners of A against B?

I think the point may have been to give the home team an easy group

The mafia decided on the pools

Seven Junior Springboks, including captain Sacha Mngomezulu, have signed contract extensions with Western Province Rugby.

Mngomezulu is joined by national U20 teammates props Lamla Nunu and Corne Weilbach, hooker Lukhanyo Vokozela, lock Connor Evans, loose forward Louw Nel and fullback Duran Koevort in signing extensions.

Fellow Junior Springbok players Imad Khan (scrumhalf), Suleiman Hartzenberg (centre) and Paul de Villiers (loose forward) are all on existing contracts in an exciting junior group.

Having made his DHL Stormers debut in the Vodacom United Rugby Championship play-offs, Mngomezulu then took the captaincy of the national U20 side, leading them on an unbeaten U20 Six Nations Summer Series campaign.

Evans also earned his first DHL Stormers cap this season, having performed regularly for DHL Western Province, while Nunu, Vokozela and Weilbach also featured for the senior side in the Carling Currie Cup this year.

These players also join the likes of DHL Western Province U20 captain and loose forward Armand Maritz, hooker Keagan Blanckenberg and fullback Luke Berger in signing extensions.

DHL Stormers Head Coach John Dobson said that retaining talent of this calibre is vital in building on the success that the DHL Stormers enjoyed in the inaugural Vodacom United Rugby Championship campaign.

“This region is a conveyor belt of rugby talent that is unmatched worldwide and it is fantastic to see so many of our promising young players commit their immediate futures here.

“We have already seen some of these players make the step-up to senior level and look forward to seeing all of them develop further within our system,” he said.

SA Under-18 squads named for International Series

04 August 2022 | 15:08
Cobus van Dyk © Gallo Images
Two South African Under-18 sides, consisting of 26 players each, have been named to take on their age-group counterparts from France and England in a four-team International Series in Paarl later this month.

All six matches have been scheduled to take place at Paarl Gymnasium, with the action to kick off on Friday 19 August. The second round will be on Tuesday 23 August and the action will conclude on Saturday 27 August.

Junior Springbok head and assistant coaches Bafana Nhleko and Chean Roux will be supporting the coaching staff of the two teams, while the two SA Schools coaches, Katleho Lynch and Cobus van Dyk, will be in charge of the two teams.

“These matches form a crucial part of our Elite Player Development (EPD) pathway for our age-group players, run by Herman Masimla and Nico Serfontein, which is why the selectors not only considered players from this year’s U18 Craven Week, but also some who were in the SA U18 team due to tour Georgia last year, a trip which was unfortunately cancelled due to Covid-19,” said Rassie Erasmus, Director of Rugby.

“We spread the net very wide and considered at all the players who are still U18, even some who have finished their schooling, or who were injured earlier in the season. The EPD programmes were designed exactly for this reason – to ensure players who may have missed a big occasion such as the Craven Week do not fall through the cracks.

“The pandemic caused some disruptions to our EPD programmes and to have these boys back on the rugby field, playing in green and gold, is great. We’ve gotten Bafana and Chean involved as the next step would be for these players to move into the next EPD phase under Barry McDonald, as well as the SA Under-20s, before they hit the senior ranks.”

Lynch will again be assisted by James Winstanley, while Van Dyk’s right hand man will be Lwazi Zangqa.

“Katleho, Cobus and their management teams did a great job with the two SA Schools sides last month and their game in Cape Town produced a very high standard of rugby, so it made sense to keep continuity in the coaching ranks, as they already know some of the players very well, and both myself and Chean are excited to be working with them,” said Nhleko.

“England and France have very good age-group rugby programmes and we’re expecting them to provide very strong opposition in this series, which will be beneficial to the players are they are on the cusp of progressing to the Under-20 ranks.

“The World Rugby Under-20 Championship will be back on the calendar next year and I’m expecting most of these guys to feature for the Junior Boks in the next two years.”

The players will start their preparations in Stellenbosch from Sunday, 14 August, and will be based at the Stellenbosch Academy of Sport.

SQUADS:

SA Under-18:

Backs: Michail Damons (fullback, Bulls), Stehan Heymans (flyhalf, Bulls), Steven Nel (scrumhalf, Bulls), Caleb Abrahams (scrumhalf, Cheetahs), Alfondso Isaacs (wing, Cheetahs), Joshua Boulle (centre, Lions), Joel Leotlela (wing, Lions), Litelihle Bester (centre, Sharks), Sha-Jehaan de Jongh (wing, WP), Bruce Sherwood (centre, WP), Thurlon Williams (flyhalf, WP).

Forwards: Sibabalwe Mahashe (loose forward, Border), Lilitha Matsiliza (utility forward, Bulls), Casper Badenhorst (prop, Cheetahs), Lukas Meyer (loose forward, Cheetahs), JF van Heerden (lock, Cheetahs), Sifiso Magwaza (prop, Lions), Thabang Mphafi (lock, Lions), Ethan Bester (hooker, Sharks), Thomas Dyer (loose forward, Sharks), Jack Waterhouse (lock, Sharks), Ruan Swart (prop, SWD), Luca Bakkes (hooker, WP), Matthew Fick (loose forward, WP), Reno Hirst (prop, WP), Zachary Porthen (prop, WP).

SA Under-18 A:

Backs: Onelisiwe Fani (scrumhalf, Border), Sesethu Mpaka (centre, Border), Bradley Giddy (flyhalf, Cheetahs), Antonio Bruiners (centre, SWD), Camden Schoeman (loose forward, SWD), JT Strydom (fullback, SWD), Jameel de Jongh (wing, WP), Gino Cupido (wing, WP), Jurenzo Julies (centre, WP), Liam Koen (flyhalf, WP), Emrique Liedeman (scrumhalf, WP), JC Mars (fullback, WP), Philip-Albert van Niekerk (centre, WP).

Forwards: Max du Pisani (loose forward, EP), Ulrich van der Westhuizen (lock, Lions), Christian Everitt (hooker, Sharks), Liyema Ntshanga (prop, Sharks), Sandile Nzuza (utility forward, Sharks), Nic Snyman (prop, Sharks), Zuki Tom (loose forward, Sharks), Bernard Bladergroen (prop, WP), Daniel Botha (lock, WP), Keanu Coetzee (lock, WP), Divan Fuller (loose forward, WP), Willem Loubser (prop, WP), Juan Smal (hooker, WP).

U18 INTERNATIONAL SERIES FIXTURES:

Friday 19 August 2022

13h00: South Africa U18 A vs France
15h30: South Africa U18 vs England

Tuesday 23 August 2022

13h00: South Africa U18 A vs England
15h30: South Africa U18 vs France

Saturday 27 August 2022

13h00: South Africa U18 A vs France
15h30: South Africa U18 vs England

SA UNDER-18 TEAM MANAGEMENT:

Head Coach: Kathleho Lynch (Golden Lions)
Assistant Coach: James Winstanley (Eastern Province)
Physiotherapist: Ken Kabongo (Boland)
Strength and Conditioning: Sisonke Makapela (Free State)
Team Doctor: Gershin Kortje (Boland)
Team Manager: Dean Moodley (Sharks)

SA UNDER-18 A TEAM MANAGEMENT:

Head Coach: Cobus van Dyk (Blue Bulls)
Assistant Coach: Lwazi Zangqa (Border)
Physiotherapist: Tanya Green (Western Province)
Strength and Conditioning: Yao Faso Amo (Leopards)
Team Doctor: Gershin Kortje (Boland)
Team Manager: Jimmy Jimlongwe (Free State)