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Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:40 pm
by Jim Lahey
Im genuinely shocked
Ulster are still absolute pish but wow, how bad are Racing.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:42 pm
by Jim Lahey
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:44 pm
by ASMO
Jim Lahey wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 8:40 pm
Im genuinely shocked
Ulster are still absolute pish but wow, how bad are Racing.
Utterly overrated based on last 2 weeks performances
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:02 pm
by lemonhead
Talent's there but they're not a unit.
Some lads busting a gut, others minding themselves. Focusing on T14?
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:07 pm
by OomStruisbaai
FSo it's 2 from 3 from Saffer teams. Can be 3 from 4 if the Cheetahs win tomorrow.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:25 pm
by ASMO
You sign a player like Arundell and then decide you are not going to pass him the ball....2 weeks running he has been shovelled a couple of shit passes and thats it.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:29 pm
by Tichtheid
Cardiff v Bath is a belter of a game
32- 32 with 67 minutes on the clock
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:33 pm
by petej
Tichtheid wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:29 pm
Cardiff v Bath is a belter of a game
32- 32 with 67 minutes on the clock
Tackling optional. Russell is always fun to watch.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:41 pm
by sockwithaticket
A lot of forward passes in this game, some called and some not, do these lads think they're playing NFL?
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:48 pm
by Tichtheid
I enjoyed that Cardiff Bath game. Barbeary looks a force and I've always liked 'signa the winga, who played well tonight.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:51 pm
by sockwithaticket
3/5 for the Prem so far. Won't be scaling the heady heights of success that we saw last weekend.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:09 pm
by _Os_
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:07 pm
FSo it's 2 from 3 from Saffer teams. Can be 3 from 4 if the Cheetahs win tomorrow.
One thing backing Ruan Pienaar's Cheetahs, another thing to claim the Sharks aren't South African. A typical Oom move.
I'm looking forward to the match.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:34 am
by OomStruisbaai
_Os_ wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:09 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:07 pm
FSo it's 2 from 3 from Saffer teams. Can be 3 from 4 if the Cheetahs win tomorrow.
One thing backing Ruan Pienaar's Cheetahs, another thing to claim the Sharks aren't South African. A typical Oom move.
I'm looking forward to the match.

forgot they play the Sharks. So it's 3 from 5 then anyway.
Bulls B should never lost last night. They were the better team against Lyon.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 9:45 am
by weegie01
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 7:44 pm
The Scottish flyhalf costing the Bulls an important away win.
It took me a minute to work out who you were meaning.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:40 am
by fishfoodie
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:34 am
_Os_ wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:09 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 9:07 pm
FSo it's 2 from 3 from Saffer teams. Can be 3 from 4 if the Cheetahs win tomorrow.
One thing backing Ruan Pienaar's Cheetahs, another thing to claim the Sharks aren't South African. A typical Oom move.
I'm looking forward to the match.

forgot they play the Sharks. So it's 3 from 5 then anyway.
Bulls B should never lost last night. They were the better team against Lyon.
They could have done Connacht a solid by beating them, but as it stands Connacht probably have no chance of proceeding now.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:46 am
by OomStruisbaai
fishfoodie wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 10:40 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:34 am
_Os_ wrote: Sat Dec 16, 2023 10:09 pm
One thing backing Ruan Pienaar's Cheetahs, another thing to claim the Sharks aren't South African. A typical Oom move.
I'm looking forward to the match.

forgot they play the Sharks. So it's 3 from 5 then anyway.
Bulls B should never lost last night. They were the better team against Lyon.
They could have done Connacht a solid by beating them, but as it stands Connacht probably have no chance of proceeding now.
Unfortunately the Bulls don't have Manie Libbok, they have the Embra reject, missing right in front to clinch it.
Bulls and Stormers have decent depth . Both B teams went pretty close in the away legs.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:09 pm
by fishfoodie
Plenty of traveling support for Munster today
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:38 pm
by fishfoodie
ITV haven't a fucking clue how to present Rugby !
It's incredibly irritating how the director keeps flicking between cameras, & going from wide, medium & short distance shots. It's not a french arthouse film you tarts, its a Sport !
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:46 pm
by fishfoodie
10 - 19 HT in Exeter
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 1:53 pm
by _Os_
Ruan Pienaar is doing everything you expect from a scrumhalf, and running sweeper on defence, and running support lines for breaks out wide (had a try cancelled by the TMO), and making cover tackles, and hitting rucks, and kicking goals, and takes a pen quickly to setup a try. The only error I've seen is he went for a gap and didn't have the speed to use it he would've had 20 years ago.
He's the oldest man on the field including the refs I think. He's playing against men who are double world cup winners or half his age. He's dominated everything so far.
Is he human?

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:12 pm
by _Os_
Passage of play where Ruan tackled Am, then he tackled Etzebeth, then he was the one in the pocket to kick the clearing kick after the Cheetahs got the turnover. So in under a minute that's the hardest carrying back and forward maybe in SA, and the tactical kicking.
Sharks are being Ruan Pienaar-ed here.

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:13 pm
by ASMO
Exeter dumb as rocks, the blitz clearly not working, so what so they do....carry on blitzing....Munster not even having to try hard.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:16 pm
by fishfoodie
ASMO wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:13 pm
Exeter dumb as rocks, the blitz clearly not working, so what so they do....carry on blitzing....Munster not even having to try hard.
They've always been pretty 1D, but Munster really have their number today, & any advantage Exeter have in the forwards isn't converting into points
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:22 pm
by fishfoodie
I think Beirne is being held back by the rest of the team, & he could just beat them on his own.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:32 pm
by ASMO
Holy fuck what a try
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:40 pm
by fishfoodie
Munsters plan to beat the blitz has rather been fucked by then insisting on bringing on Murray

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:42 pm
by ASMO
He milked that
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:43 pm
by Blackmac
ASMO wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:42 pmHe milked that
Didn't he just. Disgraceful.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:50 pm
by Paddington Bear
Henry Slade game winning interceptions against Irish opposition, iconic
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:51 pm
by fishfoodie
Fucking Murray again

Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:52 pm
by Blackmac
Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:50 pm
Henry Slade game winning interceptions against Irish opposition, iconic
Absolute shocker of a play by Murray. It was always getting intercepted
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:54 pm
by ASMO
Munster deserved to lose that for the simutalion by their 10 alone.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:55 pm
by Paddington Bear
Blackmac wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:52 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:50 pm
Henry Slade game winning interceptions against Irish opposition, iconic
Absolute shocker of a play by Murray. It was always getting intercepted
I think he was trying to hit one of the retreating runners to buy a pen
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:58 pm
by _Os_
Sharks lost to the Cheetah chiskop. Good match, but a very concerning result. AJ will be loving this.
Cheetahs worth watching just for Ruan chiskop, ended the match at flyhalf.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:14 pm
by ASMO
Really looking forwards to the Quins v Toulouse game.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:27 pm
by PornDog
Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:55 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:52 pm
Paddington Bear wrote: Sun Dec 17, 2023 2:50 pm
Henry Slade game winning interceptions against Irish opposition, iconic
Absolute shocker of a play by Murray. It was always getting intercepted
I think he was trying to hit one of the retreating runners to buy a pen
It was a slow ponderous shovel pass at that. Why not run at the retreating players and use them as blockers - and if you force them to tackle you you get your pen and maybe even a yellow. For a man with so much top class rugby under his belt he can be an awful fucking idiot at times!
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:36 pm
by Paddington Bear
Can see why the ref has gone yellow, but felt like a red to me
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:37 pm
by ASMO
Felt red to me as he was actually rising into the hit, so not passive.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 3:39 pm
by sockwithaticket
Aki very lucky. He was clearly rising in the contact and looking to make a dominant hit. He just failed to do so because his victim is considerably bigger than him. Which really is the essence of why the degree of force/dominant or passive hit stuff is bollocks. You tell the prone and about to be stretchered off Lamb that it wasn't a dominant hit, so it's only worth a yellow.
Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2023 4:03 pm
by sockwithaticket
Game's been a bit flat since the card and sight of Lamb being stretchered off.