NPR

SaintK wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:51 pm Yay Saints at Exeter
Controversial finish mind

fishfoodie wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:55 pm He can't seriously be surprised he got sent off for that ?

Slick wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:07 pm Someone sent me a message saying Hogg has completely fucked his knee, any truth in that?

Ovals wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:28 pm

Slick wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:07 pm Someone sent me a message saying Hogg has completely fucked his knee, any truth in that?

Played the full 80, so seems unlikely.

Oxbow wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:54 pm

SaintK wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:51 pm Yay Saints at Exeter
Controversial finish mind

Great win. What happened at the end, I turned it off in a fit of pique when Exeter went over for the last-minute try

SaintK wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:04 pm

Oxbow wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:54 pm

SaintK wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:51 pm Yay Saints at Exeter
Controversial finish mind

Great win. What happened at the end, I turned it off in a fit of pique when Exeter went over for the last-minute try

Simmons’s had conversion on touchline to win the game. Looked to start his run up stopped and Saints charged and kicked the ball away.
Ref said he had started his run up and no retake
Saints win!!!

Saint wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:31 pm

SaintK wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:04 pm

Oxbow wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:54 pm

Great win. What happened at the end, I turned it off in a fit of pique when Exeter went over for the last-minute try

Simmons’s had conversion on touchline to win the game. Looked to start his run up stopped and Saints charged and kicked the ball away.
Ref said he had started his run up and no retake
Saints win!!!

I'm hoping to see some alternative angles, as he was pretty much off camera at the start. Hogg was arguing at length with the ref at the end, and tbf it's not something you see very often

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:32 pm Very disappointed with the commentators doing their best to try and forgive the players for the idiotic red cards. Brookes' one in particular - no, he's not "prevented from raising his arm", he's doing what he and others do all the time - barging someone. Only this time he got him in the head.

SaintK wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:18 pm

Saint wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:31 pm

SaintK wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:04 pm
Simmons’s had conversion on touchline to win the game. Looked to start his run up stopped and Saints charged and kicked the ball away.
Ref said he had started his run up and no retake
Saints win!!!

I'm hoping to see some alternative angles, as he was pretty much off camera at the start. Hogg was arguing at length with the ref at the end, and tbf it's not something you see very often

I was staggered it wasn’t retaken
Gutsy performance from Saints mind

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:32 pm Very disappointed with the commentators doing their best to try and forgive the players for the idiotic red cards. Brookes' one in particular - no, he's not "prevented from raising his arm", he's doing what he and others do all the time - barging someone. Only this time he got him in the head.

Paddington Bear wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 8:35 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 5:32 pm Very disappointed with the commentators doing their best to try and forgive the players for the idiotic red cards. Brookes' one in particular - no, he's not "prevented from raising his arm", he's doing what he and others do all the time - barging someone. Only this time he got him in the head.

Brookes' was the softest of the three but still very clear. It struck me as a failure of coaching - he didn't need to be anywhere near the tackle but clearly was expected to stick a shoulder in to 'dominate' the tackle area. Every red of the last fortnight has been entirely preventable and not taking said action would have had limited to no impact on the game.

Saint wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:31 pm

SaintK wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 7:04 pm

Oxbow wrote: Sat Feb 20, 2021 4:54 pm

Great win. What happened at the end, I turned it off in a fit of pique when Exeter went over for the last-minute try

Simmons’s had conversion on touchline to win the game. Looked to start his run up stopped and Saints charged and kicked the ball away.
Ref said he had started his run up and no retake
Saints win!!!

I'm hoping to see some alternative angles, as he was pretty much off camera at the start. Hogg was arguing at length with the ref at the end, and tbf it's not something you see very often

Saint wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:53 pm On the Saints supports group on Facebook, someone's found some footage showing Simmons taking a half a sideways step, which you can sort of kind of line up to that footage. If that is the case, then it's fair game, but it'll take BT Sports to line up all the camera work and timestamp it accurately to say for 100% certain.

I think the main reason it's contentious is because it's so rarely seen

EDIT - Ben Kay has tweeted footage show Simmonds taking a half step forwards.

Of further interest is that by the time Simmonds had even got close to moving, he was already well outside the 60 seconds for the kick to take place

Margin__Walker wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:05 pm Well that should have been a red

Every day of the week. His head bounced FFS

sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:12 pm Well shit...

Margin__Walker wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 3:05 pm Well that should have been a red

Every day of the week. His head bounced FFS

At best, the head hits the ground slightly after the neck/shoulders. Which should still be a red?

Also we've seen instances where a player breaking their own fall with arms doesn't mitigate a red card, so how can the mere luck of how the player lands in this instance be used as such?

ASMO wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 4:38 pm Bristol play some pretty rugby, but they are dumb as rocks, stupid decisions, dumb penalties. If they cut those out and buy a brain they would be untouchable.