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Personally I don't give a shit about the 6 nations.....

We should rather focus on beating the Aussies and Abs more than 1 out of 4 first.

average joe wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:17 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:47 am

average joe wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:25 am
So baseballs big in the US. That's grand, add it to the list along with Nascar, soccer and bowls. Fok, add playing marbles if you want to. It just reinforces my point that they feel fokol about rugby.

It adds to the evidence that you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. No understanding of what makes the 6Ns the most successful rugby tournament in the world. Pretty typical of SH rugby, who have a record of creating shit tournaments, and taking what is decent, mincing it up and shitting it into the gutter. You're not going to do that to Six Nations.

You and who's going to stop it? You can go on and on here about how big baseball is in the US and how stupid I am but it wont change anything. If the suits say it's going to happen, it will happen.

South Africa is a Rugby powerhouse. The Springboks are 3 times world champions. They're a top team and a recognizable brand. SA entering the 6N will liven it up and make it more competitive. It will open up untapped markets and make it a more prestigious competition.

It would also fuck up the autumn and summer tour schedules

average joe wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:17 am

South Africa is a Rugby powerhouse. The Springboks are 3 times world champions. They're a top team and a recognizable brand.

This bit is undeniable

SA entering the 6N will liven it up and make it more competitive.

I'm less sure about this, currently it will just mean that Italy get whipped by someone else, in the recent past it would have been the same for Scotland, I'm not sure that makes it more "competitive" as a tournament.
If it strengthens calls for Italy to be chucked out then it is nothing but bad for the tournament and bad for international rugby.

It will open up untapped markets and make it a more prestigious competition.

As things stand it's the most prestigious tournament in the sport after the world cup, so much so that Sanzaar made their own version of it. It has over a hundred years of history as a competition between the best in Europe.

What untapped markets will it open up that it doesn't already have viewers in?

Then the logistics, having an extra team cuts in to an already bulging calendar, the clubs in England and France call the shots in European rugby, they will not have their players away for another weekend, probably two as players will need rest, the international windows are already fiercely negotiated.

Sards wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:22 am Personally I don't give a shit about the 6 nations.....

We should rather focus on beating the Aussies and Abs more than 1 out of 4 first.

Back for more boet, good stuff.

We're a Southern Hemisphere nation with SH rugby traditions. The rightful place for the Boks is the Rugby Championship, the home of all bar one World Cup Champion teams. They won't let us into the Six Nations because of tradition and culture. But also because they're scared. Which is justified because we're just too Alpha for the 6N.

At some stage NZ will quit being miffed at our withdrawal from Super Rugby. They'll stroke our egos and we'll settle back into our natural home.

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:17 am We're a Southern Hemisphere nation with SH rugby traditions. The rightful place for the Boks is the Rugby Championship, the home of all bar one World Cup Champion teams. They won't let us into the Six Nations because of tradition and culture. But also because they're scared. Which is justified because we're just too Alpha for the 6N.

At some stage NZ will quit being miffed at our withdrawal from Super Rugby. They'll stroke our egos and we'll settle back into our natural home.

South African hubris is something to behold, it really is.

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:17 am We're a Southern Hemisphere nation with SH rugby traditions. The rightful place for the Boks is the Rugby Championship, the home of all bar one World Cup Champion teams. They won't let us into the Six Nations because of tradition and culture. But also because they're scared. Which is justified because we're just too Alpha for the 6N.

At some stage NZ will quit being miffed at our withdrawal from Super Rugby. They'll stroke our egos and we'll settle back into our natural home.

NZ chuck us from Superrugby.

Our NH friends let us join the URC. Which already show success. We owe them to join the 6 Nations. We are part of them now.

We can do long tours to and from NZ and Australia.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:37 pm

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:17 am We're a Southern Hemisphere nation with SH rugby traditions. The rightful place for the Boks is the Rugby Championship, the home of all bar one World Cup Champion teams. They won't let us into the Six Nations because of tradition and culture. But also because they're scared. Which is justified because we're just too Alpha for the 6N.

At some stage NZ will quit being miffed at our withdrawal from Super Rugby. They'll stroke our egos and we'll settle back into our natural home.

NZ chuck us from Superrugby.

Our NH friends let us join the URC. Which already show success. We owe them to join the 6 Nations. We are part of them now.

We can do long tours to and from NZ and Australia.

Don't talk kak....you were celebrating by dancing on a table when Saru gave the Kiwis and Aussies the boot

Sards wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:55 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:37 pm

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:17 am We're a Southern Hemisphere nation with SH rugby traditions. The rightful place for the Boks is the Rugby Championship, the home of all bar one World Cup Champion teams. They won't let us into the Six Nations because of tradition and culture. But also because they're scared. Which is justified because we're just too Alpha for the 6N.

At some stage NZ will quit being miffed at our withdrawal from Super Rugby. They'll stroke our egos and we'll settle back into our natural home.

NZ chuck us from Superrugby.

Our NH friends let us join the URC. Which already show success. We owe them to join the 6 Nations. We are part of them now.

We can do long tours to and from NZ and Australia.

Don't talk kak....you were celebrating by dancing on a table when Saru gave the Kiwis and Aussies the boot

Nah that was when we beat the BiLs

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:17 am We're a Southern Hemisphere nation with SH rugby traditions. The rightful place for the Boks is the Rugby Championship, the home of all bar one World Cup Champion teams. They won't let us into the Six Nations because of tradition and culture. But also because they're scared. Which is justified because we're just too Alpha for the 6N.

At some stage NZ will quit being miffed at our withdrawal from Super Rugby. They'll stroke our egos and we'll settle back into our natural home.

We didn't withdraw from SR. They decided without us, that it will be better for them to just play each other

Hemisphere means fokol if the other teams in the south are +-10 hours before us. We are more in line with the UK and France than with NZ and Oz.

We have more in common with them. Our rugby tradition and culture is closer aligned. Our countries histories are closely linked. We've fought wars against and with each other. We'll be better of financially when we don't have to carry a small island nation with a population of 5 million and another country were rugby union is losing the battle against league.

Outside of NZ and Oz there's nothing left in the South. In the North there is so much more content. More teams, more revenue, larger audiences.

average joe wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 10:17 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:47 am

average joe wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 6:25 am
So baseballs big in the US. That's grand, add it to the list along with Nascar, soccer and bowls. Fok, add playing marbles if you want to. It just reinforces my point that they feel fokol about rugby.

It adds to the evidence that you have no fucking clue what you're talking about. No understanding of what makes the 6Ns the most successful rugby tournament in the world. Pretty typical of SH rugby, who have a record of creating shit tournaments, and taking what is decent, mincing it up and shitting it into the gutter. You're not going to do that to Six Nations.

You and who's going to stop it? You can go on and on here about how big baseball is in the US and how stupid I am but it wont change anything. If the suits say it's going to happen, it will happen.

South Africa is a Rugby powerhouse. The Springboks are 3 times world champions. They're a top team and a recognizable brand. SA entering the 6N will liven it up and make it more competitive. It will open up untapped markets and make it a more prestigious competition.

The suits don't say it. It's only some dumb farmer that does.

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:17 am We're a Southern Hemisphere nation with SH rugby traditions. The rightful place for the Boks is the Rugby Championship, the home of all bar one World Cup Champion teams. They won't let us into the Six Nations because of tradition and culture. But also because they're scared. Which is justified because we're just too Alpha for the 6N.

At some stage NZ will quit being miffed at our withdrawal from Super Rugby. They'll stroke our egos and we'll settle back into our natural home.

See, I'm very willing to believe FalseBay is just trolling, which he is.

Joe seems to believe this shite though.

Biffer wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 1:27 pm

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:17 am We're a Southern Hemisphere nation with SH rugby traditions. The rightful place for the Boks is the Rugby Championship, the home of all bar one World Cup Champion teams. They won't let us into the Six Nations because of tradition and culture. But also because they're scared. Which is justified because we're just too Alpha for the 6N.

At some stage NZ will quit being miffed at our withdrawal from Super Rugby. They'll stroke our egos and we'll settle back into our natural home.

See, I'm very willing to believe FalseBay is just trolling, which he is.

Joe seems to believe this shite though.

It's true. Seriously. What glory is there in beating NH sides. Maybe some bragging rights, but there will never ever be that same tradition as what we have shared with our SH friends. We have had a break up just recently and the NH has been kind enough to take us in at this very difficult time, but you understand how it works in an abusive relationship....we will be back together again

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:37 pm

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:17 am We're a Southern Hemisphere nation with SH rugby traditions. The rightful place for the Boks is the Rugby Championship, the home of all bar one World Cup Champion teams. They won't let us into the Six Nations because of tradition and culture. But also because they're scared. Which is justified because we're just too Alpha for the 6N.

At some stage NZ will quit being miffed at our withdrawal from Super Rugby. They'll stroke our egos and we'll settle back into our natural home.

NZ chuck us from Superrugby.

Our NH friends let us join the URC. Which already show success. We owe them to join the 6 Nations. We are part of them now.

We can do long tours to and from NZ and Australia.

In 2019, average attendance for URC games was just 7,331. For comparison, in the same year average attendance for English premiership games was 14,507. South African teams have not featured in any of the games with the highest attendance since joining the competition in 2017. Indeed, since South Africa was added to the URC, average attendances have declined each year.

That doesn't really make a case for South African teams opening up new and untapped markets, or for making the competition more prestigious, and certainly doesn't make the case for allowing SA into the 6N.

How many years are your each year?

We only join a few months back.



Free State and Kings don't count

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 2:33 pm How many years are your each year?

We only join a few months back.



Free State and Kings don't count

Yet you are saying it's "a big success" after a handful of matches?

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 2:59 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 2:33 pm How many years are your each year?

We only join a few months back.



Free State and Kings don't count

Yet you are saying it's "a big success" after a handful of matches?

Did he now?

I seem to recall he said it "show success"

average joe wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:44 am

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 2:59 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 2:33 pm How many years are your each year?

We only join a few months back.



Free State and Kings don't count

Yet you are saying it's "a big success" after a handful of matches?

Did he now?

I seem to recall he said it "show success"

Hopefully it will be
Especially with all the emotional investment some of you are putting into it. And the financial investment of your teams.

average joe wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:44 am

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 2:59 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 2:33 pm How many years are your each year?

We only join a few months back.



Free State and Kings don't count

Yet you are saying it's "a big success" after a handful of matches?

Did he now?

I seem to recall he said it "show success"

I got a way with words.

SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 9:47 am

average joe wrote: ↑Thu Nov 11, 2021 8:44 am

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 2:59 pm
Yet you are saying it's "a big success" after a handful of matches?

Did he now?

I seem to recall he said it "show success"

Hopefully it will be
Especially with all the emotional investment some of you are putting into it. And the financial investment of your teams.

What I've seen so far, the transition went smoothly. I've heard some positive things from some Irish and Scots. I guess we'll see in a season or two if it's a complete success or a steaming pile of wit honde kak

We deserve our spot in the 6 Nations. Maybe win the Grand Slam.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 2:50 pm We deserve our spot in the 6 Nations. Maybe win the Grand Slam.

How many more times. We don't want you old chap!!!

NH could have a SH clean sweep if they had the Springboks in the 6 Nations

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sat Nov 13, 2021 5:28 pm NH could have a SH clean sweep if they had the Springboks in the 6 Nations

Now that the Rassie issue has been solved Springboks will be welcome in the 6 Nations.

Haha, this thread after what's happened this week.


South Africa are the turd in the rugby swimming pool.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:58 am Now that the Rassie issue has been solved Springboks will be welcome in the 6 Nations.

What fucking time did you start drinking today.

SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:35 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:58 am Now that the Rassie issue has been solved Springboks will be welcome in the 6 Nations.

What fucking time did you start drinking today.

He's retired, he never has to stop.

handyman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:37 am

SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:35 am

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:58 am Now that the Rassie issue has been solved Springboks will be welcome in the 6 Nations.

What fucking time did you start drinking today.

He's retired, he never has to stop.

So am I, but at least I wait until the evening before I start

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 9:58 am Now that the Rassie issue has been solved Springboks will be welcome in the 6 Nations.

I know you are having a laugh, but in all seriousness this will have really put back any chance. I don't think a lot of saffers realise the amount of anger it has caused amongst rugby supporters around the world

I doubt fan feeling would play much role in the decision. Packing the calendar even further, having even worse travel, no clear and obvious reason to actually do it - those are the obstacles.

SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:03 am

handyman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:37 am

SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:35 am
What fucking time did you start drinking today.

He's retired, he never has to stop.

So am I, but at least I wait until the evening before I start

I don't drink in the week. One good habit since our alcohol ban.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:56 am

SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:03 am

handyman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 10:37 am

He's retired, he never has to stop.

So am I, but at least I wait until the evening before I start

I don't drink in the week. One good habit since our alcohol ban.

Nie eers 'n hanepoot in die Winter nie?

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:11 am I doubt fan feeling would play much role in the decision. Packing the calendar even further, having even worse travel, no clear and obvious reason to actually do it - those are the obstacles.

That is not in the spirit of this thread

handyman wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 12:21 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:56 am

SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:03 am
So am I, but at least I wait until the evening before I start

I don't drink in the week. One good habit since our alcohol ban.

Nie eers 'n hanepoot in die Winter nie?

Nie eers hanepoot nie.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:11 am I doubt fan feeling would play much role in the decision. Packing the calendar even further, having even worse travel, no clear and obvious reason to actually do it - those are the obstacles.

As I read your list I thought "he's right, it makes no sense, therefore it'll happen".

Boks in the 6N it is then, good insight oom. Also Boks not leaving the RC (a great comp). Lets play in both, lets have the cake and eat it.

I just wish that the NH supports would stop being so wishy-washy about their feelings regarding us joining the 6N.

All these mixed messages that they are sending doesn't give anyone a clear idea of what they want.

_Os_ wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:42 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 18, 2021 11:11 am I doubt fan feeling would play much role in the decision. Packing the calendar even further, having even worse travel, no clear and obvious reason to actually do it - those are the obstacles.

As I read your list I thought "he's right, it makes no sense, therefore it'll happen".

Boks in the 6N it is then, good insight oom. Also Boks not leaving the RC (a great comp). Lets play in both, lets have the cake and eat it.

It make a lot of sense after this year. It will keep the Springbokke going all year as a squad. Our lower structure play up North anyway. Most Bokke lift the NH clubs aswell. We are ab important ingredient of the cake may aswell eat some of it.

Chilli wrote: ↑Fri Nov 19, 2021 4:51 am I just wish that the NH supports would stop being so wishy-washy about their feelings regarding us joining the 6N.

All these mixed messages that they are sending doesn't give anyone a clear idea of what they want.