Americas Cup - Official Thread

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So we start from behind in the second race, this’ll be interesting...
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Race on in Race 2, LR leading at first gate.
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Reverse of the first race. It’s LR’s to lose
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We’re getting smoked in the second... Italians seem a lot faster in this one.
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Italians almost hitting 50 knots!
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Kiwis too! Insane speeds
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1 - 1 but ETNZ was closing the gap very quickly there. LR must have been feeling them breathing down their necks.
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Good race, another leg and we would have had them. 1 all is a good day and sets up the rest of the Cup nicely.
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The two boats are very very similar in performance. This race is on - Italians have the better Skipper/Tactician in my opinion but Kiwis have home course advantage.

Two very amateurish tacks from the Kiwis in Race 2 cost them any chance of catching up
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I thought the LR ballsed up around the mark massively on about the 4th. Let the kiwis back in to it, though they had enough gap to just stay ahead.

Speed wise. ETNZ had a little more downwind. And LR able to minimise the length of the speed dips better in tacks, and were much sharper acceleration post manoeuvre.

In any case, great first day. I just can’t believe after all that time not racing each other and they come out this close speed wise.

I wonder what upgrades are left on each boat.
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Hope you guys are having fun.

Got some words from Loic Perron you may remember him he was sailing a Swiss challenger in 2010.

He was talking about the America's cup.
He said while he was inside it was fantastic however from the outside it's pretty and fast however it's dull.
Also he said the the French sailing world has much better stories to tell (with offshore racing) on a much smaller budget. (1/10th for vendée)
His conclusion the French are never going to be competitive in America's cup.

I am afraid I agree.
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laurent wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:56 am Hope you guys are having fun.

Got some words from Loic Perron you may remember him he was sailing a Swiss challenger in 2010.

He was talking about the America's cup.
He said while he was inside it was fantastic however from the outside it's pretty and fast however it's dull.
Also he said the the French sailing world has much better stories to tell (with offshore racing) on a much smaller budget. (1/10th for vendée)
His conclusion the French are never going to be competitive in America's cup.

I am afraid I agree.
You could be talking about the RWC.
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Kiwias wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 8:05 am
laurent wrote: Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:56 am Hope you guys are having fun.

Got some words from Loic Perron you may remember him he was sailing a Swiss challenger in 2010.

He was talking about the America's cup.
He said while he was inside it was fantastic however from the outside it's pretty and fast however it's dull.
Also he said the the French sailing world has much better stories to tell (with offshore racing) on a much smaller budget. (1/10th for vendée)
His conclusion the French are never going to be competitive in America's cup.

I am afraid I agree.
You could be talking about the RWC.
The French are interested in the RWC, always have been after all without Ferasse there would not have been one...

There are no French sponsors that would fork out 100M for America's when they get much more coverage for 1/10 or less of the budget doing offshore racing (also the Boats last a lot longer).
I love sailing but in all seriousness the A cup does not come near trans oceanic or round the world sailing for entertainment value or adventure.
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Except Groupama Team France last time around.

In any case I hope it’s ok, we enjoy it.

I hope there was no one on the vendee globe thread saying how boring it is.
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Don't be so defensive. Groupama did not spend any where near the cash needed to have a shot. They have sponsored a lot of sailing stuff and still do however I don'tbelieve the previous challenge was as expensive as this one.

I was only relaying what a respected sailor was saying.

Not sure why I bothered...
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Grrr - Team NZ set themselves up in a good position prestart and the race is postponed because the bloody Jafas cannot keep their boats out of the course. BBB - was that you?

New start time 1623 so 7 minutes away
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This is murder from Luna Rossa

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Doesn’t feel like there is a way back in to race 3.

Commentators suggest larger foils massively helping LR.

Not sure why ETNZ are again on the little foils.
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Ymx wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 3:43 am Doesn’t feel like there is a way back in to race 3.

Commentators suggest larger foils massively helping LR.

Not sure why ETNZ are again on the little foils.
Race 3 is done and dusted.

Can ETNZ change foils between races?
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By the look of it, we wouldn't have beaten Ainslie either.
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LR much faster upwind. If remains the same at the start (unless LR badly lose the start) can’t see this not being 3-1 up to LR.
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Jesus, that was a kicking from LR.

Light winds forecast for the next few days as well...
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ETNZ trying to keep nose ahead.
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A pretty tight race at the moment but ETNZ holding its lead
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Still close and Prada have split to the left. Could be close on next get together
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Prada screwed their gybe. Lost 150m on that
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They are staying in touch despite being behind and that mistake.

They’ve a good package have LR Prada
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Ymx wrote: Fri Mar 12, 2021 4:35 am They are staying in touch despite being behind and that mistake.

They’ve a good package have LR Prada
Gap did not narrow on Leg 3.
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Ignore that. They had an extra tack I didn’t account for. A bit further behind than I realised.
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Sounds like the wind is dropping. Gulp
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450 plus lead downwind at present.

Last upwind to come next.

Is it harder to stay on foils for gybe or tack?

Obviously slower on tack, but more wind pressure against on tack?
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Lead over 500m
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Wow. That flipped it on its head again.

Cruising in
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Phew!
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That is more like it.
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2-2

Can’t recall start of a tournament so close.

Pleased I woke up for that. But now 5am. 2 hours before daughter wakes to jump on me. Quick bit of shut eye.
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It’s insane to think what’s at stake here.

Such a huge campaign on both sides. Winner takes ownership of the next campaign hosting, class, rules, venue.

And with such small errors deciding races at the moment.

Pushing a wrong button could ultimately decide the cup as we get closer to the magic 7.
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Is there a reason why the races are so short? Half an hour and it's all over... I am sure back in 1987 the races felt like they went on for days...

Couldn't they race to Great Barrier and back? :clap:
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Race 5 kicking off shortly.

Carn, TNZ!
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Not a good start by ETNZ
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