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Well.. as an All Blacks supporter I thought Kolisi was good as soon as he started playing against us... and he's got even better. At no point did I think of him as just a quota player. He looked far too good for that.

We need someone like him in the All Blacks side now... someone who dominates any breakdown he is involved in...

Bit of an obvious omission for world player of year nominations I think.

Uncle fester wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:41 am Bit of an obvious omission for world player of year I think.

I would say.....

Grandpa wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:25 am Well.. as an All Blacks supporter I thought Kolisi was good as soon as he started playing against us... and he's got even better. At no point did I think of him as just a quota player. He looked far too good for that.

We need someone like him in the All Blacks side now... someone who dominates any breakdown he is involved in...

What the hell is going on with the ABs dude

Sards wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:50 am

Grandpa wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:25 am Well.. as an All Blacks supporter I thought Kolisi was good as soon as he started playing against us... and he's got even better. At no point did I think of him as just a quota player. He looked far too good for that.

We need someone like him in the All Blacks side now... someone who dominates any breakdown he is involved in...

What the hell is going on with the ABs dude

Must have been disheartening for you as you were just about to flip flop to being an ABs supporter.

Sending my thoughts and prayers

XOXO

Our Springbok captain.
#The Sharks.#leading from the front

A mate saw him out Saturday night on the Royal Mile in Edinburgh and had a lengthy chat. Apparently is a really humble and nice guy

Bullet wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:45 pm A mate saw him out Saturday night on the Royal Mile in Edinburgh and had a lengthy chat. Apparently is a really humble and nice guy

It seems Rassie is making sure the players are keeping their feet on the ground, there's no place for ego's.

The guy with the SA flag undies is Jack Denton. He's a Saffer/Zimbo. His brother David Denton is an ex Scottish rugby international. They were born in Zim but moved to the Eastern Cape.

assfly wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:03 am

Blake wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 10:19 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:20 am So this thread is just a string of people saying they are rubbish at seeing talent in a young player?

Cool

Pretty much.

He's always had flashes of brilliance in pockets of his career.
It's more an indictment of his coaches that so few of them were able to create an environment where he could thrive.

I don't think that is the spirit of this thread at all. It's an appreciation of his improvement from when he was first made Bok captain to now. Even during the RWC fans (myself included) were questioning his form. But the last 6 months his improvement has been monumental.

This.

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 2:58 pm The guy with the SA flag undies is Jack Denton. He's a Saffer/Zimbo. His brother David Denton is an ex Scottish rugby international. They were born in Zim but moved to the Eastern Cape.

They had him on KFM. He met Kolisi the friday and ask him if he would do this if the Bokke win.

Kolisi just had so much more to deal with than any Bok captain has had. For a start, an African breadwinner is responsible for much more than his immediate nuclear family. Siya is a Xhosa man from the Eastern Cape, the burden of responsibility and the expectation that he will feel to his extended family will be huge. Add to that the expectations adoration and fascination of millions of Saffers furiously facebooking, instagramming, tiktokking and twittering about him and his family.

Its a wonder he hasn't shaved his head and gone full Britney Spears. So he spent a few years boozing a bit too much and visiting strip club. Who hasn't? I'm a huge fan of his and always felt his value to South African rugby was worth it despite his sometimes average contribution on the field. I have a handyman called Siya who does my painting etc. He is an Eastern Cape guy who lives in Khayelitsha. He coaches a kids cricket team and is absolutely mad about rugby and cricket. He reckons Makhaya Ntini and Siya Kolisi are the most important thing to have happened to sport in that region. Siya Kolisi and Bongi Mbonambi delivered helmets, pads, bats, pads and balls to his little cricket club and have arranged for a pitch to be laid.

There are many days when I wake up in South Africa feeling depressed and shit about life. Then I think about how it must feel to wake up with no electricity, no prospects, gangsters and criminals surrounding you. Its wonderful to see Mapimpi and Kolisi able to escape all of that. I hope that happens for a lot more people.

Lovely.....


The Sharks. Bringing rugby to the people.



Just wish they would win a bit more

Chilli wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:06 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:20 am So this thread is just a string of people saying they are rubbish at seeing talent in a young player?

Cool

It is a thread to show that a person can improve themselves so much if they put their mind to it.

You should give it a try...........................................heaven knows you need it.

Touchy

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:38 pm

Chilli wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:06 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:20 am So this thread is just a string of people saying they are rubbish at seeing talent in a young player?

Cool

It is a thread to show that a person can improve themselves so much if they put their mind to it.

You should give it a try...........................................heaven knows you need it.

Touchy

Our captain.

Look like you lot take a Scot loss better then the BiL.

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:38 pm

Chilli wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:06 am

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:20 am So this thread is just a string of people saying they are rubbish at seeing talent in a young player?

Cool

It is a thread to show that a person can improve themselves so much if they put their mind to it.

You should give it a try...........................................heaven knows you need it.

Touchy

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:20 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:38 pm

Chilli wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 9:06 am

It is a thread to show that a person can improve themselves so much if they put their mind to it.

You should give it a try...........................................heaven knows you need it.

Touchy

Our captain.

Look like you lot take a Scot loss better then the BiL.

We're pretty used to it. Beaten in the set piece on Saturday, was expecting a rough time in the scrum, didn't think the line out would be that bad. The few times we had reasonable ball in hand we looked dangerous, and if Finn had his kicking boots on there would have been a bit more pressure on in the last quarter, but we're in a better place than we've been for a long time.

And we can beat the Aussies

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 7:26 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 6:20 pm

Biffer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 4:38 pm



Touchy

Our captain.

Look like you lot take a Scot loss better then the BiL.

We're pretty used to it. Beaten in the set piece on Saturday, was expecting a rough time in the scrum, didn't think the line out would be that bad. The few times we had reasonable ball in hand we looked dangerous, and if Finn had his kicking boots on there would have been a bit more pressure on in the last quarter, but we're in a better place than we've been for a long time.

And we can beat the Aussies

This! Kolisi is a real player, always has been. However he is an even better leader and role model. You guys are lucky to have him and you won't know how lucky until he retires.

Sards wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:50 am

Grandpa wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:25 am Well.. as an All Blacks supporter I thought Kolisi was good as soon as he started playing against us... and he's got even better. At no point did I think of him as just a quota player. He looked far too good for that.

We need someone like him in the All Blacks side now... someone who dominates any breakdown he is involved in...

What the hell is going on with the ABs dude

Coaching issue...

Kolisi is an amazing player and captain.

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:18 pm There are many days when I wake up in South Africa feeling depressed and shit about life. Then I think about how it must feel to wake up with no electricity, no prospects, gangsters and criminals surrounding you.

I didn't know you worked in government.

assfly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 5:36 am

FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 3:18 pm There are many days when I wake up in South Africa feeling depressed and shit about life. Then I think about how it must feel to wake up with no electricity, no prospects, gangsters and criminals surrounding you.

I didn't know you worked in government.

Grandpa wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:26 am

Sards wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:50 am

Grandpa wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:25 am Well.. as an All Blacks supporter I thought Kolisi was good as soon as he started playing against us... and he's got even better. At no point did I think of him as just a quota player. He looked far too good for that.

We need someone like him in the All Blacks side now... someone who dominates any breakdown he is involved in...

What the hell is going on with the ABs dude

Coaching issue...

Maybe you now understand what we went through with Coetzee and Meyer as coaches.

Grandpa wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:26 am

Sards wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:50 am

Grandpa wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:25 am Well.. as an All Blacks supporter I thought Kolisi was good as soon as he started playing against us... and he's got even better. At no point did I think of him as just a quota player. He looked far too good for that.

We need someone like him in the All Blacks side now... someone who dominates any breakdown he is involved in...

What the hell is going on with the ABs dude

Coaching issue...

I thought Foster was nominated for coach of the year?

Grandpa wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:26 am

Sards wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:50 am

Grandpa wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:25 am Well.. as an All Blacks supporter I thought Kolisi was good as soon as he started playing against us... and he's got even better. At no point did I think of him as just a quota player. He looked far too good for that.

We need someone like him in the All Blacks side now... someone who dominates any breakdown he is involved in...

What the hell is going on with the ABs dude

Coaching issue...

You lot are so inconsistent this year....destroy a side one week. Fall apart next week. Could be a coaching issue.
Looks like your coach is not doing his homework.....expecting to just win everything

Sards wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 6:50 am

Grandpa wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:26 am

Sards wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:50 am

What the hell is going on with the ABs dude

Coaching issue...

You lot are so inconsistent this year....destroy a side one week. Fall apart next week. Could be a coaching issue.
Looks like your coach is not doing his homework.....expecting to just win everything

I missed this quality analysis when you took your 2 week flounce.

Flip flop 101

handyman wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:08 pm

Bullet wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 12:45 pm A mate saw him out Saturday night on the Royal Mile in Edinburgh and had a lengthy chat. Apparently is a really humble and nice guy

It seems Rassie is making sure the players are keeping their feet on the ground, there's no place for ego's.

What a lot of bull.....under Rassie Kolisi was rubbish.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:27 amFlip flop 101

Haven't you got a pad to go change

Sards wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:34 am

handyman wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:08 pm It seems Rassie is making sure the players are keeping their feet on the ground, there's no place for ego's.

What a lot of bull.....under Rassie Kolisi was rubbish.

Handyman is right, and a lot of people have pointed it out. This team has no ego. It's there for all to see in Chasing the Sun. I also think that's why certain players that fans are screaming for selection haven't made it in yet. Rassie likes a certain type of player. It's probably the reason why our discipline has improved so much too.

assfly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:51 am

Sards wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:34 am

handyman wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:08 pm It seems Rassie is making sure the players are keeping their feet on the ground, there's no place for ego's.

What a lot of bull.....under Rassie Kolisi was rubbish.

Handyman is right, and a lot of people have pointed it out. This team has no ego. It's there for all to see in Chasing the Sun. I also think that's why certain players that fans are screaming for selection haven't made it in yet. Rassie likes a certain type of player. It's probably the reason why our discipline has improved so much too.

Exactly. And it works.

assfly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:51 am

Sards wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:34 am

handyman wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 1:08 pm It seems Rassie is making sure the players are keeping their feet on the ground, there's no place for ego's.

What a lot of bull.....under Rassie Kolisi was rubbish.

Handyman is right, and a lot of people have pointed it out. This team has no ego. It's there for all to see in Chasing the Sun. I also think that's why certain players that fans are screaming for selection haven't made it in yet. Rassie likes a certain type of player. It's probably the reason why our discipline has improved so much too.

I misread his post.

Still stand by my point...under Rassie , Kolisi was rubbish.

Grandpa wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:26 am

Sards wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:50 am

Grandpa wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:25 am Well.. as an All Blacks supporter I thought Kolisi was good as soon as he started playing against us... and he's got even better. At no point did I think of him as just a quota player. He looked far too good for that.

We need someone like him in the All Blacks side now... someone who dominates any breakdown he is involved in...

What the hell is going on with the ABs dude

Coaching issue...

Somewhere deep in the heart of this coaching group and squad of players is a belief that they can run and outscore anyone, no matter the circumstances, no matter what the opposition bring.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/11/15/t ... Gu4UJq3zxA

Sards wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:35 am

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:27 amFlip flop 101

Haven't you got a pad to go change

Found a sandbox for you to play in

Sards wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:08 am

assfly wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:51 am

Sards wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:34 am

What a lot of bull.....under Rassie Kolisi was rubbish.

Handyman is right, and a lot of people have pointed it out. This team has no ego. It's there for all to see in Chasing the Sun. I also think that's why certain players that fans are screaming for selection haven't made it in yet. Rassie likes a certain type of player. It's probably the reason why our discipline has improved so much too.

I misread his post.

Still stand by my point...under Rassie , Kolisi was rubbish.

That hole must be pretty deep right about now.

Sards wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:45 am

Grandpa wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:26 am

Sards wrote: ↑Mon Nov 15, 2021 11:50 am

What the hell is going on with the ABs dude

Coaching issue...

Somewhere deep in the heart of this coaching group and squad of players is a belief that they can run and outscore anyone, no matter the circumstances, no matter what the opposition bring.

https://www.theroar.com.au/2021/11/15/t ... Gu4UJq3zxA

It's sorta half right... I don't think the players are in on it though... but exactly right that since 2015 All Black rugby has stood still. They took their stable forward platform for granted under McCaw. Hansen then somehow lost the plot... and Foster was in on it...

The Crusaders don't play like the All Blacks, neither did the Blues when winning the Trans Tasman Competition earlier this year... and Foster is either too stubborn or unable to change what has become engrained... though you'd hope Plumtree might have influence, or is he stuck in the past too?

If Foster doesn't change.... and it seems unlikely seeing that the All Blacks have lost to Ireland, England, SA, Argentina and Australia in recent seasons... with still no change in sight (other than employing their own version of the rush defence, which I guess we should be grateful for small mercies) then I guess he will stubbornly persist until we get knocked out of the World Cup again before the final... only then might we see a proper re-boot and a modern thinking coach brought in....

Yes, i know how you feel SA the last 10 years before Rassie came in...

The ABs currently have no on-field leadership and a whole heap of players with a lot of talent who might just need to be kept on a short leash / are quite dumb / are potential trouble for their own team with very few wise heads

The All Blacks biggest problem is to have a reject Sharks coach.