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JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:37 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:33 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 10:54 am

I er, don't think we celebrate someone's death in the same way as a famous sporting triumph

Who used the term "celebrate"? You've been going on about 1966 forever. So much so, it's the single reason many of us could not bear the thought of Eng ever winning a football trophy again. You'd be insufferable.

People bring up 1966 because it's a triumph, and it's the last time we won a major football trophy, so it's relevant every 2 years. It's a bit different to the idea of talking about the Queen for 5 years because she's dead. People are not going to give that much of a shit, it'll be a month or two, some hasty TV series and a film or two, and everything else will be exactly as it was before.

You used that word which I was going to feature in my reply i.e. it's all about triumphalism and the queen is the epitome of it. Uruguay has won the thing more often than Eng but I'll wager they don't w*nk on about it in the same way.

Christ, I've just thought about Charles' reaction to this and given myself a Disney earworm. "Oh, I just can't waaaaaaait...to be king!"

I suspect Andy is less enthusiastic; as he'll lose his biggest supporter, & might have to face the music.

Big Nipper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:29 pm

Well that’s a bit cunty

Slick wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:53 pm

Big Nipper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:29 pm

Well that’s a bit cunty

The other day he was celebrating the death of FW De Klerk. The president that called for the referendum that ended apartheid. Very unpleasant person

Big Nipper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:29 pm

Nipper is Prince Charles and I claim my £5

sturginho wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:07 pm

Big Nipper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:29 pm

Nipper is Prince Charles and I claim my £5

You can retire with 5 quid here in SA. Im sorry I am not exactly tearing up here over a member of the British Royal family. They left a trail of destruction in South Africa, and even had time to kill some of my family in concentration camps.

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:43 pm Christ, I've just thought about Charles' reaction to this and given myself a Disney earworm. "Oh, I just can't waaaaaaait...to be king!"

Sards wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:02 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:53 pm

Big Nipper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:29 pm

Well that’s a bit cunty

The other day he was celebrating the death of FW De Klerk. The president that called for the referendum that ended apartheid. Very unpleasant person

Whilst that is true, your attempt to portray FW as some sort of saint is misguided. There will be plenty who celebrated his death.

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 12:49 pm She is 'The' Queen. Even in other countries with an actual Queen of their own, if you asked people in those countries who 'The' Queen was then many of them would still point to a picture of the UK Queen.

, sure they would

robmatic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:11 am

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:15 am I have it on decent authority that operation London Bridge is being dusted off.

Condolences to those of you in the UK, because the country will have a psychological meltdown.

You are not joking there will be the mother of all slumps!!

Cue all the edgy republicans telling me no one will give a shit.

Big Nipper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:17 pm

sturginho wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:07 pm

Big Nipper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 1:29 pm

Nipper is Prince Charles and I claim my £5

You can retire with 5 quid here in SA. Im sorry I am not exactly tearing up here over a member of the British Royal family. They left a trail of destruction in South Africa, and even had time to kill some of my family in concentration camps.

Can we open champagne for that??

Im sure the British have had many a drink over the ashes of their colonies

Openside wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:09 pm

robmatic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:11 am

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:15 am I have it on decent authority that operation London Bridge is being dusted off.

Condolences to those of you in the UK, because the country will have a psychological meltdown.

You are not joking there will be the mother of all slumps!!

Cue all the edgy republicans telling me no one will give a shit.

I think lots of people will care, almost everyone in the UK will have an opinion one way or the other. On a personal level I would feel sorry for the ones who will lose a mother, an aunt, a grandmother, a great grandmother etc, just as I would for anyone in that situation.

Tam Paine said "Kill the King, spare the man", and that's where I am, I don't like monarchies, I don't like that the armed forces and police swear allegiance to the monarch, it means that democracy is not actually sovereign in this country - as candidates for dictatorship go, Liz is pretty much the last in line, but that's not the point.

I'd like the monarchy to be significantly downgraded if people insist on keeping it, a ceremonial role perhaps.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:22 pm

Openside wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:09 pm

robmatic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:11 am

Condolences to those of you in the UK, because the country will have a psychological meltdown.

You are not joking there will be the mother of all slumps!!

Cue all the edgy republicans telling me no one will give a shit.

I think lots of people will care, almost everyone in the UK will have an opinion one way or the other. On a personal level I would feel sorry for the ones who will lose a mother, an aunt, a grandmother, a great grandmother etc, just as I would for anyone in that situation.

Tam Paine said "Kill the King, spare the man", and that's where I am, I don't like monarchies, I don't like that the armed forces and police swear allegiance to the monarch, it means that democracy is not actually sovereign in this country - as candidates for dictatorship go, Liz is pretty much the last in line, but that's not the point.

I'd like the monarchy to be significantly downgraded if people insist on keeping it, a ceremonial role perhaps.

Their role already is pretty ceremonial…

Big Nipper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:19 pm Im sure the British have had many a drink over the ashes of their colonies

What! All of us?

Openside wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:11 pm

Big Nipper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:17 pm

sturginho wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 2:07 pm

Nipper is Prince Charles and I claim my £5

You can retire with 5 quid here in SA. Im sorry I am not exactly tearing up here over a member of the British Royal family. They left a trail of destruction in South Africa, and even had time to kill some of my family in concentration camps.

Can we open champagne for that??

Nasty

You should have seen the royal arm wrestling when one of our Kings died . Things carried on.

SaintK wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:25 pm

Big Nipper wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:19 pm Im sure the British have had many a drink over the ashes of their colonies

What! All of us?

You are all drunken pirates

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:22 pm

Openside wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 3:09 pm

robmatic wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 9:11 am

Condolences to those of you in the UK, because the country will have a psychological meltdown.

You are not joking there will be the mother of all slumps!!

Cue all the edgy republicans telling me no one will give a shit.

I think lots of people will care, almost everyone in the UK will have an opinion one way or the other. On a personal level I would feel sorry for the ones who will lose a mother, an aunt, a grandmother, a great grandmother etc, just as I would for anyone in that situation.

Tam Paine said "Kill the King, spare the man", and that's where I am, I don't like monarchies, I don't like that the armed forces and police swear allegiance to the monarch, it means that democracy is not actually sovereign in this country - as candidates for dictatorship go, Liz is pretty much the last in line, but that's not the point.

I'd like the monarchy to be significantly downgraded if people insist on keeping it, a ceremonial role perhaps.

This, having been through this with my own family members. I won't personally be sad about it myself but recognise the impact it will genuinely have on others.

I don't think we'll have mass grief hysteria along the lines of 1997, but I think many people (like me) will just go along with the whole "nation in mourning" thing regardless of our actual feelings because it's easier than getting into pointless arguments about it. 2/3/4 weeks and we'll collectively move on.

RIP. Just hope the Poms don't cancel the vokken rugby.

ASMO wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:37 am

Kawazaki wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:35 am Where does your info fall on the credible source scale?

10. You play golf with the Queen's private physician.








5. You know a bloke with an OBE





2. You read it on Twitter



1. Paul Burrell told you.

i would say closer to the top end of that scale than the bottom

Probably an eight then.

8. You know Globus

11. His bookie

Ironically, the Queen is aging better than this thread.

So just searched and it seems rumours permeating on Twitter.

Where is that on the 1-10 scale?

Ymx wrote: ↑Tue Nov 16, 2021 8:26 pm So just searched and it seems rumours permeating on Twitter.

Where is that on the 1-10 scale?

Twitter?

About -20

I'll be sad when the queen dies because she's a 95 year old woman who has strived to do an archaic job and, on the whole, done it with aplomb.

Will I mourn her passing: no. I've never met her properly
Will I fear her passing: yes, cos it passes to her twattish son (my dad had to deal with him on occasion)
Will I think that this will accelerate the demise of the royals: yes, so massive bonus
Will we have to redo how we're governed: yes, probably, because charles basically isn't up to the job. The monarch's role has been sidelined for quite a while, but not just 'purely ceremonial' as someone said earlier in the thread (I'm guessing OS)

What I'm going to hate for quite a while is the national collective grief we're meant to feel about her death. Complete pile of bollocks.

Anyway, death of 95 year old rich woman who still works part time ain't much of a headline.

Strange how people who claim to to care, don't support, couldn't care less, will celebrate her passing care so much that they post, repost and post again.

It seems to have become fashionable to hate or dislike the Royal Family. So fashionable that these people attention whore themselves all over the place.

"Look at me, look at me I dislike the Monarchy"

Just be quiet and move on with your lives.

Chilli wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:56 am Strange how people who claim to to care, don't support, couldn't care less, will celebrate her passing care so much that they post, repost and post again.

It seems to have become fashionable to hate or dislike the Royal Family. So fashionable that these people attention whore themselves all over the place.

"Look at me, look at me I dislike the Monarchy"

Just be quiet and move on with your lives.

"celebrate her passing"?

What a load of horseshit.

Gumboot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:05 am

Chilli wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 4:56 am Strange how people who claim to to care, don't support, couldn't care less, will celebrate her passing care so much that they post, repost and post again.

It seems to have become fashionable to hate or dislike the Royal Family. So fashionable that these people attention whore themselves all over the place.

"Look at me, look at me I dislike the Monarchy"

Just be quiet and move on with your lives.

"celebrate her passing"?

What a load of horseshit.

Read the fred. Champagne corks are popping.

You made a sweeping statement based on the inanities of a single poster?

Why didn't you just direct your comment at Big Nipper, then?

In a world bereft of good presidents, prime ministers and politicians in general, I think the Queen has stood out as a beacon of leadership.

assfly wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:34 am In a world bereft of good presidents, prime ministers and politicians in general, I think the Queen has stood out as a beacon of leadership.

She's a figurehead, not a leader.

Gumboot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:36 am She's a figurehead, not a leader.

if that makes you feel better, go for it.

assfly wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:41 am

Gumboot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:36 am She's a figurehead, not a leader.

if that makes you feel better, go for it.

Is my point incorrect? Why do you immediately assume I'm emotionally invested in this?

Gumboot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 5:45 am Is my point incorrect? Why do you immediately assume I'm emotionally invested in this?

Of course she is a leader. She is a world leader. To think otherwise is utterly bizarre.

In what way is she a world leader? Phoning in a "Good luck, chaps" to COP26? Her Xmas speech? Get real.

Gumboot wrote: ↑Wed Nov 17, 2021 6:06 am In what way is she a world leader? Phoning in a "Good luck, chaps" to COP26? Her Xmas speech? Get real.

as suspected, very emotionally invested.

Her role is purely ceremonial.

How can she be a world leader in any meaningful sense when she's not involved in any world leadership decisions?

Please don't let your emotions get in the way of a sincere answer this time.