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blackblackblack wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:05 am

Kiap wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:38 am

blackblackblack wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:59 pmif you can use the thing safely, without harming yourself or others, you should be able to.

Benign intent is one thing. Circumstantial risk is another.

What's your stance on mask wearing on planes, trains and uber automobiles?

As a sovereign citizen, I should be able to go mask free if I am virus free. Jacinta is violating my God given right.

Signed
Karen from Bunnings

I think Karen, that you must make your own choice and bear the consequences of that choice. I will be wearing one, whether or not you choose to is up to you bearing in mind the law may mandate the wearing of masks in certain circumstances hence the need for you to take responsibility for your choice as that may apply under the law, whether you believe that law applies to you or not.

blackblackblack wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:05 am

Kiap wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 12:38 am

blackblackblack wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 11:59 pmif you can use the thing safely, without harming yourself or others, you should be able to.

Benign intent is one thing. Circumstantial risk is another.

What's your stance on mask wearing on planes, trains and uber automobiles?

As a sovereign citizen, I should be able to go mask free if I am virus free. Jacinta is violating my God given right.

Signed
Karen from Bunnings

I think Karen, that you must make your own choice and bear the consequences of that choice. I will be wearing one, whether or not you choose to is up to you bearing in mind the law may mandate the wearing of masks in certain circumstances hence the need for you to take responsibility for your choice as that may apply under the law, whether you believe that law applies to you or not.

Muttonbird wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:52 pm

Thommo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:42 pm

Muttonbird wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:54 am No, we can't send him back to where he came from. They will just let him go in no time. Dutton would probably pardon him. I do think we should send them the bill for his safe imprisonment here though.

Do you actually think that would happen?

Also, we'll pay his bills if you guys pay for your guys in prison over here. Deal?

I did make mention of that but there is a difference. 80% of Kiwis incarcerated in Australia learned their trade there (that's an educated guess), where-as this monster didn't develop his warped hatred of Muslims in New Zealand. He arrived here with the sole intention of committing this act.

Nearly 700 firearms were reported stolen from licensed gun owners last year, data released to Newshub under the Official Information Act shows.

But despite more than 1500 firearms being seized by police in raids, only a fraction of recovered guns had been reported stolen.

The vast majority were rifles - 436 in total - followed by shotguns, at 186. Three military-style semi-automatic (MSSA) rifles and three pistols were also reported stolen from people with valid firearms licences.

Thommo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:42 pm

Muttonbird wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:54 am No, we can't send him back to where he came from. They will just let him go in no time. Dutton would probably pardon him. I do think we should send them the bill for his safe imprisonment here though.

Do you actually think that would happen?

Also, we'll pay his bills if you guys pay for your guys in prison over here. Deal?

Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:21 am

Thommo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:42 pm

Muttonbird wrote: ↑Sun Aug 23, 2020 6:54 am No, we can't send him back to where he came from. They will just let him go in no time. Dutton would probably pardon him. I do think we should send them the bill for his safe imprisonment here though.

Do you actually think that would happen?

Also, we'll pay his bills if you guys pay for your guys in prison over here. Deal?

As long as they're genuinely our guys and not Aussies in every measure except for a piece of paper who just happened to have been born in NZ and spent a few years here as a child.

Thommo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:24 am

Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:21 am

Thommo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:42 pm

Do you actually think that would happen?

Also, we'll pay his bills if you guys pay for your guys in prison over here. Deal?

As long as they're genuinely our guys and not Aussies in every measure except for a piece of paper who just happened to have been born in NZ and spent a few years here as a child.

What if you live all your life in one country but refuse to become a citizen of that country and vociferously lambast your adopted country (and their rugby teams) on, say, a social media platform?

Thommo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:24 am

Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:21 am

Thommo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:42 pm

Do you actually think that would happen?

Also, we'll pay his bills if you guys pay for your guys in prison over here. Deal?

As long as they're genuinely our guys and not Aussies in every measure except for a piece of paper who just happened to have been born in NZ and spent a few years here as a child.

What if you live all your life in one country but refuse to become a citizen of that country and vociferously lambast your adopted country (and their rugby teams) on, say, a social media platform?

Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 7:19 am

Thommo wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 6:24 am

Fat Old Git wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:21 am

As long as they're genuinely our guys and not Aussies in every measure except for a piece of paper who just happened to have been born in NZ and spent a few years here as a child.

What if you live all your life in one country but refuse to become a citizen of that country and vociferously lambast your adopted country (and their rugby teams) on, say, a social media platform?

Some might pause and consider what that might say about the adopted country.

usemame wrote: ↑Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:47 am I thought one could be born in Oz, spend one's entire life there and still not fulfil the criteria to be a citizen, if one didn't comply with the financial component, no?

usemame wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:37 am Hmmm. I see no financial requirement, fair enough.

What are the general eligibility requirements to apply for Australian Citizenship?

To be eligible to apply for Australian citizenship, you must have:

Been an Australian permanent resident for at least 1 year and lived in Australia for at least 9 out of 12 months before you apply
Been lawfully resident in Australia for at least 4 years before you apply
Not been absent from Australia for more than 12 months in the last 4 years before you apply
Good moral character
https://www.immigrationdirect.com.au/au ... ation.html

Thommo wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:40 am

usemame wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:37 am Hmmm. I see no financial requirement, fair enough.

What are the general eligibility requirements to apply for Australian Citizenship?

To be eligible to apply for Australian citizenship, you must have:

Been an Australian permanent resident for at least 1 year and lived in Australia for at least 9 out of 12 months before you apply
Been lawfully resident in Australia for at least 4 years before you apply
Not been absent from Australia for more than 12 months in the last 4 years before you apply
Good moral character
https://www.immigrationdirect.com.au/au ... ation.html

I know a few Kiwis who've lived in Australia for 20+ years but refuse to get citizenship. They've even flown home to give birth before coming back to raise their kid here.

Thommo wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:40 am
I know a few Kiwis who've lived in Australia for 20+ years but refuse to get citizenship. They've even flown home to give birth before coming back to raise their kid here.

Green light echo wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 2:04 am

Thommo wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:40 am
I know a few Kiwis who've lived in Australia for 20+ years but refuse to get citizenship. They've even flown home to give birth before coming back to raise their kid here.

Yes, they are what you call parasitic cunts.

Shanky’s mate wrote: ↑Wed Aug 26, 2020 3:37 am The weather’s alright, though.

I ask that this scum of the world never be allowed to walk from the prison in his lifetime. I also ask that he be put into mainstream prison to stop wasting taxpayer money in giving him special treatment.

While you are in prison you will come to the reality that you are now in hell and only fire awaits you. Your father was a garbage man and you became the trash of society. He is ashamed of your identity. You deserve to be buried in a landfill.

You are not actually a human, or even an animal, since animals are beneficial to the world.

You are weak. Look at yourself. Look around this courtroom and consider who is the 'other' here? Is it us, or is it you? I think the answer is clear.

Kia ora to all of you, except the beast. I hope you will rot between the four walls of your cell for eternity.

Mucaad was killed in the most incomprehensible and evil way - shot at point blank range by (the foreign beast). His body was picked up by worshipper Nathan Smith.

"I held a three-year-old boy in my arms, praying that he was still alive," Smith said in his victim impact statement on Tuesday. "He was not. You took him away. He was three."

He is a terrorist, an inhumane and wicked mass killer – a "monster" and "undoubtedly" New Zealand's "worst murderer".

And now Brenton Harrison Tarrant will never be released from prison, spending the rest of his life behind bars without any possibility of parole.

He has today been sentenced to life imprisonment without parole – meaning he will never, ever be freed.

It is the first time in New Zealand history this sentence has been imposed.

On March 15 2019 the 29-year-old Australian stormed two Christchurch mosques during Friday prayer and opened fire on men, women and children worshipping.

As a result of his attack 51 people died and 40 were wounded.

He initially pleaded not guilty to his offending but later changed his mind and admitted 51 charges of murder, 40 counts of attempted murder and one of engaging in a terrorist act laid under the Terrorism Suppression Act 2002.

Sentencing for the mass murderer started on Monday in the High Court at Christchurch before Justice Cameron Mander.

Key points from today's sentencing include:

-The Crown pushed for life without parole for "clearly New Zealand's worst murderer".
-Tarrant did not oppose being locked up for life.
-He claimed in a pre-sentence report that he was not racist or xenophobic.
-He said his political and social views at the time weren't real, saying he felt ostracised and had wanted to damage society.
-But he accepted it was without doubt a terror attack.
-The Crown said it was clearly ideologically driven, saying Tarrant was a dangerous narcissist who warranted a life without parole.

blackblackblack wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:12 am The only credible outcome. Now to get him put in gen pop.

New Zealand First believes this terrorist should be returned to the country that raised him. Now is the time for Australia's Minister of Home Affairs, Peter Dutton, to receive and carry out the terrorist's sentence in Australia.

Muttonbird wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:30 am

New Zealand First believes this terrorist should be returned to the country that raised him. Now is the time for Australia's Minister of Home Affairs, Peter Dutton, to receive and carry out the terrorist's sentence in Australia.

- Winston Peters, Deputy Prime Minister of NZ

Far out. Winston Peters would not last long as a poster on PR.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics ... -time.html

Thommo wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 6:51 am

Muttonbird wrote: ↑Thu Aug 27, 2020 5:30 am

New Zealand First believes this terrorist should be returned to the country that raised him. Now is the time for Australia's Minister of Home Affairs, Peter Dutton, to receive and carry out the terrorist's sentence in Australia.

- Winston Peters, Deputy Prime Minister of NZ

Far out. Winston Peters would not last long as a poster on PR.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/politics ... -time.html

Is he NZ's version of Pauline Hanson?

blackblackblack wrote: ↑Mon Aug 24, 2020 10:04 pm Neither do I, but at the same time, nobody needs to have a Ferrari, plenty of people have them, lots of people want one. If you are able to possess one and can use it safely without harming yourself or others, you should be allowed to. Stupid people do stupid shit in cars all the time. We don't ban cars, we ban the stupid people from using them, which is what should have happened here. He never should have gained a firearms license, he simply didn't meet the criteria as set down in the firearms act, 51 people may still be alive today had police done the job properly.

PS, you couldn't have automatic weapons under the previous firearms act either, you could have semi auto, which is a fine point of argument granted, but as it stands nothing actually needed to change. Thousands of law abiding citizens got fucked over for politically expedient grandstanding. The irony being, I'm not even a shooter and I voted for these clowns last time out.