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Posted: **Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:58 pm**

Is this just the GB Olympics?

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 5:59 am**

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:58 pm Is this just the GB Olympics?

Like everything else, we invented it I think

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:31 am**

Slick wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 5:59 am
Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:58 pm Is this just the GB Olympics?
Like everything else, we invented it I think

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:57 am**

Slick wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 5:59 am
Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:58 pm Is this just the GB Olympics?
Like everything else, we invented it I think

Goes some way to explaining how everyone else got so much better at it I suppose, but the ancient Greeks might have a word about the 'invention'.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:19 am**

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:58 pm Is this just the GB Olympics?

Makes a welcome change from the saffers no?

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:28 am**

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:57 am
Slick wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 5:59 am
Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Wed Aug 07, 2024 11:58 pm Is this just the GB Olympics?
Like everything else, we invented it I think
Goes some way to explaining how everyone else got so much better at it I suppose, but the ancient Greeks might have a word about the 'invention'.

Wasn’t being entirely serious

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:40 am**

Slick wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:28 am
Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:57 am
Slick wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 5:59 am

Like everything else, we invented it I think
Goes some way to explaining how everyone else got so much better at it I suppose, but the ancient Greeks might have a word about the 'invention'.
Wasn’t being entirely serious

This is the Olympics, Slick. You don't just sashay up and go to Disneyland or try and hook up some cheap nostril cleaner at the Olympics.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 8:57 am**

Worst tickets at Paris 2024 Olympics:

Open Water swimming: "So I bought these thickets, sat in the stand and all I heard was some splashing in the river below me somewhere.."

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 11:25 am**

Watching the speed climbers - they're like lizards going up that wall. The American favourite lost the semi to the Chinese guy, but then breaks the world record in the bronze medal match - some way to make a statement.

It looks like it's only their momentum that keeps them on the wall - I suspect if they had to stop half way up they'd fall off!

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 11:43 am**

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 8:57 am Worst tickets at Paris 2024 Olympics:

Open Water swimming: "So I bought these thickets, sat in the stand and all I heard was some splashing in the river below me somewhere.."

Those look as bad as my Box Hill tickets in 2012 for the road race

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 1:21 pm**

Jade Jones knocked out. Another British favourite failing to medal. Pretty inevitable that this is going to be a poor Olympics for GB. Since London we are usually fighting for 3rd place and average 26 golds but could well end up down about 8th

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:01 pm**

Blackmac wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 1:21 pm Jade Jones knocked out. Another British favourite failing to medal. Pretty inevitable that this is going to be a poor Olympics for GB. Since London we are usually fighting for 3rd place and average 26 golds but could well end up down about 8th

Tthink Team GB were targetting a total of 60ish
GB won 64 in Tokyo of which 22 were gold.
Certainly left some golds out there but reckon we won't be too far away.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:16 pm**

SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:01 pm
Blackmac wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 1:21 pm Jade Jones knocked out. Another British favourite failing to medal. Pretty inevitable that this is going to be a poor Olympics for GB. Since London we are usually fighting for 3rd place and average 26 golds but could well end up down about 8th
Tthink Team GB were targetting a total of 60ish
GB won 64 in Tokyo of which 22 were gold.
Certainly left some golds out there but reckon we won't be too far away.

Compare to Australia who have 6 fewer medals but 6 more golds.

Or South Korea and Japan who are both on the same number of golds, but have respectively 22 and 17 fewer medals.

France are in a similar situation with a lower gold to other medal ratio than the teams around them in the table.

There is a real 'changing of the guard' feel about Team GB just now with reliable medallists from previous games reaching the end of their careers, or already gone. The wider concern is that the pipelines are drying up and world class athletes are not coming through in some of the sports we consistently got a good medal haul in.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:36 pm**

weegie01 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:16 pm
SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:01 pm
Blackmac wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 1:21 pm Jade Jones knocked out. Another British favourite failing to medal. Pretty inevitable that this is going to be a poor Olympics for GB. Since London we are usually fighting for 3rd place and average 26 golds but could well end up down about 8th
Tthink Team GB were targetting a total of 60ish
GB won 64 in Tokyo of which 22 were gold.
Certainly left some golds out there but reckon we won't be too far away.
Compare to Australia who have 6 fewer medals but 6 more golds.

Or South Korea and Japan who are both on the same number of golds, but have respectively 22 and 17 fewer medals.

France are in a similar situation with a lower gold to other medal ratio than the teams around them in the table.

There is a real 'changing of the guard' feel about Team GB just now with reliable medallists from previous games reaching the end of their careers, or already gone. The wider concern is that the pipelines are drying up and world class athletes are not coming through in some of the sports we consistently got a good medal haul in.

Elite sports are going to have fine margins. You win some, you lose some.

There was a good post on the BBC page:
Katie Archibald injured 6 weeks ahead of the Olympics. She's one of our best.
Peaty, Proud and Richards were a combined 0.09s off of three golds.
Rutter was unlucky with a shoot off.
Emma Wilson and Beth Schriver victims of their sport having one off finals despite dominating the qualifying.
Kerr running a NR and beating the old Olympic record for silver.
Hudson Smith running the 5th fastest time ever recorded over 400m and getting a silver.
Potter not quite having the legs in the triathlon.
Richardson shafted in the boxing.

Not a woe is Team GB post but an indication that it wasn't far off being 5/6 golds better off and it being described in a different way.

In recent Olympics Team GB have been excellent, but as you say the old guard leave and new talent will fill in. It might take a cycle or two but we have been spoiled in the UK since 2012. Rowing seems to be doing fine and cycling seems to have decent talent on the way through too.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:55 pm**

Big D wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:36 pm
weegie01 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:16 pm
SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:01 pm
Tthink Team GB were targetting a total of 60ish
GB won 64 in Tokyo of which 22 were gold.
Certainly left some golds out there but reckon we won't be too far away.
Compare to Australia who have 6 fewer medals but 6 more golds.

Or South Korea and Japan who are both on the same number of golds, but have respectively 22 and 17 fewer medals.

France are in a similar situation with a lower gold to other medal ratio than the teams around them in the table.

There is a real 'changing of the guard' feel about Team GB just now with reliable medallists from previous games reaching the end of their careers, or already gone. The wider concern is that the pipelines are drying up and world class athletes are not coming through in some of the sports we consistently got a good medal haul in.
Elite sports are going to have fine margins. You win some, you lose some.

There was a good post on the BBC page:
Katie Archibald injured 6 weeks ahead of the Olympics. She's one of our best.
Peaty, Proud and Richards were a combined 0.09s off of three golds.
Rutter was unlucky with a shoot off.
Emma Wilson and Beth Schriver victims of their sport having one off finals despite dominating the qualifying.
Kerr running a NR and beating the old Olympic record for silver.
Hudson Smith running the 5th fastest time ever recorded over 400m and getting a silver.
Potter not quite having the legs in the triathlon.
Richardson shafted in the boxing.

Not a woe is Team GB post but an indication that it wasn't far off being 5/6 golds better off and it being described in a different way.

In recent Olympics Team GB have been excellent, but as you say the old guard leave and new talent will fill in. It might take a cycle or two but we have been spoiled in the UK since 2012. Rowing seems to be doing fine and cycling seems to have decent talent on the way through too.

Whilst this is all true, there are usually swings and roundabouts. This time it seems all swings and no roundabouts.

Our athletes are still right up there. The fact we are toe to toe with France in their home games says a lot, but we have been a bit spoiled with past success and expectations are high.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:57 pm**

US Womens shot putter. WTAF!!!

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:58 pm**

The eurosport coverage could do with sticking the points up on the screen. Still better than bbc1 mind who are just chaffing about the tempo race

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:58 pm**

Hahaha typical. Points up as I post.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:04 pm**

weegie01 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:55 pm
Big D wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:36 pm
weegie01 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:16 pm

Compare to Australia who have 6 fewer medals but 6 more golds.

Or South Korea and Japan who are both on the same number of golds, but have respectively 22 and 17 fewer medals.

France are in a similar situation with a lower gold to other medal ratio than the teams around them in the table.

There is a real 'changing of the guard' feel about Team GB just now with reliable medallists from previous games reaching the end of their careers, or already gone. The wider concern is that the pipelines are drying up and world class athletes are not coming through in some of the sports we consistently got a good medal haul in.
Elite sports are going to have fine margins. You win some, you lose some.

There was a good post on the BBC page:
Katie Archibald injured 6 weeks ahead of the Olympics. She's one of our best.
Peaty, Proud and Richards were a combined 0.09s off of three golds.
Rutter was unlucky with a shoot off.
Emma Wilson and Beth Schriver victims of their sport having one off finals despite dominating the qualifying.
Kerr running a NR and beating the old Olympic record for silver.
Hudson Smith running the 5th fastest time ever recorded over 400m and getting a silver.
Potter not quite having the legs in the triathlon.
Richardson shafted in the boxing.

Not a woe is Team GB post but an indication that it wasn't far off being 5/6 golds better off and it being described in a different way.

In recent Olympics Team GB have been excellent, but as you say the old guard leave and new talent will fill in. It might take a cycle or two but we have been spoiled in the UK since 2012. Rowing seems to be doing fine and cycling seems to have decent talent on the way through too.
Whilst this is all true, there are usually swings and roundabouts. This time it seems all swings and no roundabouts.

Our athletes are still right up there. The fact we are toe to toe with France in their home games says a lot, but we have been a bit spoiled with past success and expectations are high.

We have also lost people who contributed multiple golds. Hoy then the Kenny's especially and to an extent peak Peaty. They were all good for more than 1 gold each per games.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:08 pm**

France is way underperforming for having the games at home, if you deduct Leon Marchand 4 gold in swimming, the rest has been crap (beside Rugby7

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GB always does better than France, Australia might have the best gold medals %/pop.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:16 pm**

Two Brits have lost out in sailing events where the final is sudden death but prior rounds are a series of races.

UK gold in the kite final. Three wins are needed to win, the Brit won two and had one carried over from the semis. The French girl carried two wins from the semis and would have won one race in the final and got gold if she'd not fallen off, but gets second based on wins carried over from the semis.

I am not familar with sailing, but wtf?

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:28 pm**

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:08 pm France is way underperforming for having the games at home, if you deduct Leon Marchand 4 gold in swimming, the rest has been crap (beside Rugby7 )
GB always does better than France, Australia might have the best gold medals %/pop.

Australia are doing well this year after a few fairly lean years for them (6th in Beijing, 8th in London, 10th in Rio and 6th in Tokyo). They are also a bit of an outlier in getting more golds than other medals.

Since Beijing, GB have been 4th, 3rd, 2nd and 4th in the medals table. We are still doing pretty well on overall medals (51 now), just a bit light on golds in comparison to our performances in the last 4 Olympics. We could still come in 4th again

Some of us are old enough to remember Atlanta in 1996 when GB were 36th in the medal table, got 15 medals in total and just 1 gold (thanks to Steve Redgrave)

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:56 pm**

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:08 pm France is way underperforming for having the games at home, if you deduct Leon Marchand 4 gold in swimming, the rest has been crap (beside Rugby7 )
GB always does better than France, Australia might have the best gold medals %/pop.

Wut ?

they have won more medals than ever before.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:15 pm**

Katie Archibald being injured was the difference between silver and gold. She would also be among the favourites, if not clear favourite for the omnium and in the Madison with Evans.

I feel so sorry for her, she's had an awful few years, and then at the Olympics in her prime where she would have shone, she gets a freak injury by tripping over in her back garden.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:16 pm**

laurent wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:56 pm
Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:08 pm France is way underperforming for having the games at home, if you deduct Leon Marchand 4 gold in swimming, the rest has been crap (beside Rugby7 )
GB always does better than France, Australia might have the best gold medals %/pop.
Wut ?

they have won more medals than ever before.

Bit compared to the UK, similar size and wealth, they're historically very poor.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:29 pm**

Would love to see Tebogo upset Lyles here. Not that I don't like Lyles but it would be great to see an upset.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:35 pm**

Beautiful.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:05 pm**

Hugo wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:35 pmBeautiful.

Eased up and still ran 19.45

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:24 pm**

laurent wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:56 pm
Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:08 pm France is way underperforming for having the games at home, if you deduct Leon Marchand 4 gold in swimming, the rest has been crap (beside Rugby7 )
GB always does better than France, Australia might have the best gold medals %/pop.
Wut ?
they have won more medals than ever before.

I stand by what I wrote above, they are underperforming for being at home, never the French athletes had the type of support and help that they got from the gov. GB got 29 gold medals in 2012, France so far 13 G with Marchand*4,Teddy Riner*2 ( I put the team’s one as he had to fight twice to get it), the rest were 1 BMX, Surf, canoe, vtt, fencing.
None, zero zip in the usual sports that the French use to get gold medals in like Equestrian, men fencing, judo*, swimming*, handball, volleyball , Sailing and it really doesn’t look good in track & field.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:30 pm**

Well that was an anticlimax even with a wr.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:31 pm**

Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:16 pm
laurent wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:56 pm
Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:08 pm France is way underperforming for having the games at home, if you deduct Leon Marchand 4 gold in swimming, the rest has been crap (beside Rugby7 )
GB always does better than France, Australia might have the best gold medals %/pop.
Wut ?

they have won more medals than ever before.
Bit compared to the UK, similar size and wealth, they're historically very poor.

Not sure why you bring this in I did not mention GB.

They got better medal count than previous record (Beijing 43 medals) last week; with a good bit more guaranteed in collective sports (basketball handball and Football) there are 53 today.

This is over 25% improvement on the previous record so far (counting the 3 minima silver to get over the hump).

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:33 pm**

Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone is the boss over the hurdles. Brilliant run.

That's a brilliant stat that she was a couple tenths of running quick enough to make the 400m final.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:35 pm**

Big D wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:33 pm Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone is the boss over the hurdles. Brilliant run.

That's a brilliant stat that she was a couple tenths of running quick enough to make the 400m final.

She is absolutely smoking too!! As is the US Heptathlete Hall.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:36 pm**

laurent wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:31 pm
Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:16 pm
laurent wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:56 pm

Wut ?

they have won more medals than ever before.
Bit compared to the UK, similar size and wealth, they're historically very poor.
Not sure why you bring this in I did not mention GB.

They got better medal count than previous record (Beijing 43 medals) last week; with a good bit more guaranteed in collective sports (basketball handball and Football) there are 53 today.

This is over 25% improvement on the previous record so far (counting the 3 minima silver to get over the hump).

GB and France can be considered similar countries in most ways so it's a reasonable comparison. Same as France and England are a reasonable comparison in football and England massively under perform. Other reasonable ones would be Germany, Japan etc. Germany have similarly been below expectations for a long time now.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:38 pm**

Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:08 pm France is way underperforming for having the games at home, if you deduct Leon Marchand 4 gold in swimming, the rest has been crap (beside Rugby7 )
GB always does better than France, Australia might have the best gold medals %/pop.

Nah Netherlands and NZ are better per capita

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:41 pm**

Openside wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:38 pm
Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:08 pm France is way underperforming for having the games at home, if you deduct Leon Marchand 4 gold in swimming, the rest has been crap (beside Rugby7 )
GB always does better than France, Australia might have the best gold medals %/pop.
Nah Netherlands and NZ are better per capita

Doubt anyone is beating St Lucia this year.

Edit - I'm wrong, Dominica does.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:46 pm**

Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:41 pm
Openside wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:38 pm
Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 4:08 pm France is way underperforming for having the games at home, if you deduct Leon Marchand 4 gold in swimming, the rest has been crap (beside Rugby7 )
GB always does better than France, Australia might have the best gold medals %/pop.
Nah Netherlands and NZ are better per capita
Doubt anyone is beating St Lucia this year.

Edit - I'm wrong, Dominica does.

Sorry I should have stated if you take 1 gold nations out.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:47 pm**

Wow - Lyles wins silver in the Mens 200m final - but reveals he has covid.

That's a huge achievement.

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:58 pm**

SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 3:57 pm US Womens shot putter. WTAF!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/artic ... dApp_Other

Posted: **Thu Aug 08, 2024 8:12 pm**

Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:36 pm
laurent wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 7:31 pm
Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Aug 08, 2024 6:16 pm

Bit compared to the UK, similar size and wealth, they're historically very poor.
Not sure why you bring this in I did not mention GB.

They got better medal count than previous record (Beijing 43 medals) last week; with a good bit more guaranteed in collective sports (basketball handball and Football) there are 53 today.

This is over 25% improvement on the previous record so far (counting the 3 minima silver to get over the hump).
GB and France can be considered similar countries in most ways so it's a reasonable comparison. Same as France and England are a reasonable comparison in football and England massively under perform. Other reasonable ones would be Germany, Japan etc. Germany have similarly been below expectations for a long time now.

Seriously Why are you talking about GB ? I was responding to France under-performing at these games and they are not.

PS Forgot about Volley ball as another guaranteed medal.

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