NPR

average joe wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:39 am You could have one hell of a party for less than 500 Pounds/Euro. Fok you could go on a Safari and still have enough for coke and hookers.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:01 am For a longer holiday, that'd be a valid mitigation.

However, for the weekend away trips that are mainstays of the 6 Nations experience spending 24 of the available 48 hours travelling is a complete show stopper.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:28 am

average joe wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:48 am

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:02 pm

It's not worth going that far just for a weekend. Part of the 6 Nations charm is the viability of weekend trips or even just day trips, to the away venues.

We're not living in the dark ages. It's just a short flight to SA and it cost you pocket change to visit our shores. When last did you guys pay 8 pee for a beer over there?

You and I have a very different definition of short.

assfly wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:06 am

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:01 am For a longer holiday, that'd be a valid mitigation.

However, for the weekend away trips that are mainstays of the 6 Nations experience spending 24 of the available 48 hours travelling is a complete show stopper.

Give me one good reason why Rome is a better weekend away than Pretoria. I'll wait.

assfly wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:06 am

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:01 am For a longer holiday, that'd be a valid mitigation.

However, for the weekend away trips that are mainstays of the 6 Nations experience spending 24 of the available 48 hours travelling is a complete show stopper.

Give me one good reason why Rome is a better weekend away than Pretoria. I'll wait.

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:06 am

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:28 am

average joe wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:48 am

We're not living in the dark ages. It's just a short flight to SA and it cost you pocket change to visit our shores. When last did you guys pay 8 pee for a beer over there?

You and I have a very different definition of short.

12 hours to Cape Town
Avg flight cost £600!!!!

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:11 am

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:06 am

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 9:28 am

You and I have a very different definition of short.

12 hours to Cape Town
Avg flight cost £600!!!!

Right? I hadn't fully appreciated just how far away SA is until this strand of the discussion started up.

assfly wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:40 am We can't afford it.

average joe wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:58 am There's enough chickenrunners over there to make it worth the while. You don't need us klingons.

It's 11 hours from Heathrow to OR Tambo and less than 500 pounds non-stop, round trip. It will cost you half that for accommodation and entertainment. If that's too rich for you, just do what we poor klingons do and watch it on the telly at home or in the pub. You can still go to Rome, Paris, where ever. Your team will only play one game in SA.

handyman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:00 pm

average joe wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:58 am There's enough chickenrunners over there to make it worth the while. You don't need us klingons.

It's 11 hours from Heathrow to OR Tambo and less than 500 pounds non-stop, round trip. It will cost you half that for accommodation and entertainment. If that's too rich for you, just do what we poor klingons do and watch it on the telly at home or in the pub. You can still go to Rome, Paris, where ever. Your team will only play one game in SA.

Simples.

SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:47 am

assfly wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:40 am We can't afford it.

............and nor can the average UK rugby supporter afford to travel to SA!!!

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:04 pm

handyman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:00 pm

average joe wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:58 am There's enough chickenrunners over there to make it worth the while. You don't need us klingons.

It's 11 hours from Heathrow to OR Tambo and less than 500 pounds non-stop, round trip. It will cost you half that for accommodation and entertainment. If that's too rich for you, just do what we poor klingons do and watch it on the telly at home or in the pub. You can still go to Rome, Paris, where ever. Your team will only play one game in SA.

Simples.

Yeah you guys are doing a bang-up job of convincing people it's a good idea, this is going about as well as the crime stats argument.

average joe wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:58 am There's enough chickenrunners over there to make it worth the while. You don't need us klingons.

It's 11 hours from Heathrow to OR Tambo and less than 500 pounds non-stop, round trip. It will cost you half that for accommodation and entertainment. If that's too rich for you, just do what we poor klingons do and watch it on the telly at home or in the pub. You can still go to Rome, Paris, where ever. Your team will only play one game in SA.

average joe wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:58 am There's enough chickenrunners over there to make it worth the while. You don't need us klingons.

It's 11 hours from Heathrow to OR Tambo and less than 500 pounds non-stop, round trip. It will cost you half that for accommodation and entertainment. If that's too rich for you, just do what we poor klingons do and watch it on the telly at home or in the pub. You can still go to Rome, Paris, where ever. Your team will only play one game in SA.

handyman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:07 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:04 pm

handyman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:00 pm

Simples.

Yeah you guys are doing a bang-up job of convincing people it's a good idea, this is going about as well as the crime stats argument.

I've got no say in the matter, nor am I convinced it's the best way to go. Why break my head over it?

assfly wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 1:09 pm I'm starting to get a small impression that we're not wanted.

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:26 am

assfly wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:18 am :Japan has entered the conversation:

Why would they allow them in and not the WC Champs and top ranked team?

assfly wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:06 am

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:01 am For a longer holiday, that'd be a valid mitigation.

However, for the weekend away trips that are mainstays of the 6 Nations experience spending 24 of the available 48 hours travelling is a complete show stopper.

Give me one good reason why Rome is a better weekend away than Pretoria. I'll wait.

TheFrog wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 1:49 pm

assfly wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:06 am

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 10:01 am For a longer holiday, that'd be a valid mitigation.

However, for the weekend away trips that are mainstays of the 6 Nations experience spending 24 of the available 48 hours travelling is a complete show stopper.

Give me one good reason why Rome is a better weekend away than Pretoria. I'll wait.

Slick wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 1:47 pm It would just be 5 weeks of moaning, ref bashing, victimhood and I’ll feeling.

We already have the Welsh

Genuinely though, I wouldn’t want SA supporters anywhere near the 6N. Wrong sort. No thanks

GogLais wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 1:14 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:26 am

assfly wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:18 am :Japan has entered the conversation:

Why would they allow them in and not the WC Champs and top ranked team?

You're doing well enough outside the 6N aren't you? Why are you so bothered about joining it?

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 3:24 pm

GogLais wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 1:14 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Jan 02, 2022 8:26 am

Why would they allow them in and not the WC Champs and top ranked team?

You're doing well enough outside the 6N aren't you? Why are you so bothered about joining it?

£ £ £

GogLais wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 7:41 pm

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 3:24 pm

GogLais wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 1:14 pm

You're doing well enough outside the 6N aren't you? Why are you so bothered about joining it?

£ £ £

I assume you wouldn't come here in the autumn any more if you were in the 6N.

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:45 pm

average joe wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:58 am There's enough chickenrunners over there to make it worth the while. You don't need us klingons.

It's 11 hours from Heathrow to OR Tambo and less than 500 pounds non-stop, round trip. It will cost you half that for accommodation and entertainment. If that's too rich for you, just do what we poor klingons do and watch it on the telly at home or in the pub. You can still go to Rome, Paris, where ever. Your team will only play one game in SA.

While affordability is not a negligible consideration (it's worth stating that you can easily do a weekend in Paris or Rome for the £500 it would cost to get to South Africa) it's a bit of a red herring. Who gives a shit if accommodation and entertainment are cheap if you're only going to be on the ground for 24 hours (at best) before having to turn around again? Less once you factor in the reason you actually flew out - going to watch the game.

Canada's bloody awesome and it takes a couple of hours less to fly to British Columbia on the far side of the country than it does to any of the South African cities that have been mentioned, but it's still not worth flying out there just for the weekend because after an 18 hour round trip there's just not enough time left to properly take advantage of being there.

To briefly go back to points about money, Mexico or India are places that are cheap once you get there, but, again, they're really fucking far away and it's just not a worthwhile use of time to go there for a weekend.

For a weekend trip, the closer the destination the better.

laurent wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:52 am The whole point is that you don't need to take a day off travelling to a game.

average joe wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:46 am

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:45 pm

average joe wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:58 am There's enough chickenrunners over there to make it worth the while. You don't need us klingons.

It's 11 hours from Heathrow to OR Tambo and less than 500 pounds non-stop, round trip. It will cost you half that for accommodation and entertainment. If that's too rich for you, just do what we poor klingons do and watch it on the telly at home or in the pub. You can still go to Rome, Paris, where ever. Your team will only play one game in SA.

While affordability is not a negligible consideration (it's worth stating that you can easily do a weekend in Paris or Rome for the £500 it would cost to get to South Africa) it's a bit of a red herring. Who gives a shit if accommodation and entertainment are cheap if you're only going to be on the ground for 24 hours (at best) before having to turn around again? Less once you factor in the reason you actually flew out - going to watch the game.

Canada's bloody awesome and it takes a couple of hours less to fly to British Columbia on the far side of the country than it does to any of the South African cities that have been mentioned, but it's still not worth flying out there just for the weekend because after an 18 hour round trip there's just not enough time left to properly take advantage of being there.

To briefly go back to points about money, Mexico or India are places that are cheap once you get there, but, again, they're really fucking far away and it's just not a worthwhile use of time to go there for a weekend.

For a weekend trip, the closer the destination the better.

It's one game. Put in a few days leave and make a week of it, you'll have a blast. If you cant/don't want to/cant afford it/are Scottish just stay home and watch it on the telly.

average joe wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:19 am

laurent wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:52 am The whole point is that you don't need to take a day off travelling to a game.

You would still be able to do that. France wont even have to travel every year. 1 game every second year would be in South Africa the rest stays the same.

Slick wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:50 am

average joe wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:46 am

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:45 pm

While affordability is not a negligible consideration (it's worth stating that you can easily do a weekend in Paris or Rome for the £500 it would cost to get to South Africa) it's a bit of a red herring. Who gives a shit if accommodation and entertainment are cheap if you're only going to be on the ground for 24 hours (at best) before having to turn around again? Less once you factor in the reason you actually flew out - going to watch the game.

Canada's bloody awesome and it takes a couple of hours less to fly to British Columbia on the far side of the country than it does to any of the South African cities that have been mentioned, but it's still not worth flying out there just for the weekend because after an 18 hour round trip there's just not enough time left to properly take advantage of being there.

To briefly go back to points about money, Mexico or India are places that are cheap once you get there, but, again, they're really fucking far away and it's just not a worthwhile use of time to go there for a weekend.

For a weekend trip, the closer the destination the better.

It's one game. Put in a few days leave and make a week of it, you'll have a blast. If you cant/don't want to/cant afford it/are Scottish just stay home and watch it on the telly.

This Scottish supporters don’t travel thing is a bit odd

laurent wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 8:12 am

average joe wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:19 am

laurent wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:52 am The whole point is that you don't need to take a day off travelling to a game.

You would still be able to do that. France wont even have to travel every year. 1 game every second year would be in South Africa the rest stays the same.

Na that's fine as it is

bye...

average joe wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 9:25 am

Slick wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 7:50 am

average joe wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:46 am

It's one game. Put in a few days leave and make a week of it, you'll have a blast. If you cant/don't want to/cant afford it/are Scottish just stay home and watch it on the telly.

This Scottish supporters don’t travel thing is a bit odd

Parsimonious

average joe wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 5:48 am

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 8:02 pm

assfly wrote: ↑Tue Jan 04, 2022 5:01 pm Would English fans prefer a weekend away in Tokyo or Durban?

It's not worth going that far just for a weekend. Part of the 6 Nations charm is the viability of weekend trips or even just day trips, to the away venues.

We're not living in the dark ages. It's just a short flight to SA and it cost you pocket change to visit our shores. When last did you guys pay 8 pee for a beer over there?

average joe wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:46 am

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:45 pm

average joe wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:58 am There's enough chickenrunners over there to make it worth the while. You don't need us klingons.

It's 11 hours from Heathrow to OR Tambo and less than 500 pounds non-stop, round trip. It will cost you half that for accommodation and entertainment. If that's too rich for you, just do what we poor klingons do and watch it on the telly at home or in the pub. You can still go to Rome, Paris, where ever. Your team will only play one game in SA.

While affordability is not a negligible consideration (it's worth stating that you can easily do a weekend in Paris or Rome for the £500 it would cost to get to South Africa) it's a bit of a red herring. Who gives a shit if accommodation and entertainment are cheap if you're only going to be on the ground for 24 hours (at best) before having to turn around again? Less once you factor in the reason you actually flew out - going to watch the game.

Canada's bloody awesome and it takes a couple of hours less to fly to British Columbia on the far side of the country than it does to any of the South African cities that have been mentioned, but it's still not worth flying out there just for the weekend because after an 18 hour round trip there's just not enough time left to properly take advantage of being there.

To briefly go back to points about money, Mexico or India are places that are cheap once you get there, but, again, they're really fucking far away and it's just not a worthwhile use of time to go there for a weekend.

For a weekend trip, the closer the destination the better.

It's one game. Put in a few days leave and make a week of it, you'll have a blast. If you cant/don't want to/cant afford it/are Scottish just stay home and watch it on the telly.

average joe wrote: ↑Thu Jan 06, 2022 6:46 am

sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 12:45 pm

average joe wrote: ↑Wed Jan 05, 2022 11:58 am There's enough chickenrunners over there to make it worth the while. You don't need us klingons.

It's 11 hours from Heathrow to OR Tambo and less than 500 pounds non-stop, round trip. It will cost you half that for accommodation and entertainment. If that's too rich for you, just do what we poor klingons do and watch it on the telly at home or in the pub. You can still go to Rome, Paris, where ever. Your team will only play one game in SA.

While affordability is not a negligible consideration (it's worth stating that you can easily do a weekend in Paris or Rome for the £500 it would cost to get to South Africa) it's a bit of a red herring. Who gives a shit if accommodation and entertainment are cheap if you're only going to be on the ground for 24 hours (at best) before having to turn around again? Less once you factor in the reason you actually flew out - going to watch the game.

Canada's bloody awesome and it takes a couple of hours less to fly to British Columbia on the far side of the country than it does to any of the South African cities that have been mentioned, but it's still not worth flying out there just for the weekend because after an 18 hour round trip there's just not enough time left to properly take advantage of being there.

To briefly go back to points about money, Mexico or India are places that are cheap once you get there, but, again, they're really fucking far away and it's just not a worthwhile use of time to go there for a weekend.

For a weekend trip, the closer the destination the better.

It's one game. Put in a few days leave and make a week of it, you'll have a blast. If you cant/don't want to/cant afford it/are Scottish just stay home and watch it on the telly.