NPR

Sandstorm wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:46 am

Steve wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:45 am Will Jordan . Don't listen to the haters son. Ive seen more line breaks in his time on the field than for the last 6 games.

Start him at 13 next time?

It's Fozzy, so yes probably will play him there until out of form, and from the squad.

But it's year over now.

We can complain about the finishing but Argentina were never, ever, ever in that.

Flockwitt wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:45 am Paper over cracks. Need a better opposition to tell all that but if Akira can hold back the dickheadedness he's in for mine.

Forwards certainly worked a lot harder at tackle/ruck time than in earlier matches, so I would take that regardless of the opposition.

Ymx wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:46 am

Steve wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:45 am Will Jordan . Don't listen to the haters son. Ive seen more line breaks in his time on the field than for the last 6 games.

But Steve .... Any fat tourist

All joking aside. Picking form players ( who also happen to be intelligent footballers) is gonna help isn't it.

Rieko, Jordie and Clarke are dropping everything .

Give me Laumape Jordan Havili Fakatava Ennor over those lads.

Good effort in the forwards this week.

That'll do.

I’m on the record as saying only 33% of the Barretts are any good.

In retrospect, that estimate is much too high.

Dropping players on form isn’t good practice. Coaches show faith in their players. A player dropped on form has far less chance of regaining it.

Also creates a lot of bullshit chopping and changing and little consistency.

Ymx wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:45 am lovely move again by Jordan. But of course any winger would have done that too.

Clearly not but not connected to the 2 Argie Xmas presents.

Steve wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:47 am Havnt seen cowardice like that since they surrendered the Malvinas.

Folded like deck chars.

Poor form, son.

Steve wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:48 am

Ymx wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:46 am

Steve wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:45 am Will Jordan . Don't listen to the haters son. Ive seen more line breaks in his time on the field than for the last 6 games.

But Steve .... Any fat tourist

All joking aside. Picking form players ( who also happen to be intelligent footballers) is gonna help isn't it.

Rieko, Jordie and Clarke are dropping everything .

Give me Laumape Jordan Havili Fakatava Ennor over those lads.

Was wondering what Lumpy had done to fall out of favour.

Ymx wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:49 am Good effort in the forwards this week.

Yes, far more important than us ranting over the backs

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:50 am

Steve wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:48 am

Ymx wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:46 am

But Steve .... Any fat tourist

All joking aside. Picking form players ( who also happen to be intelligent footballers) is gonna help isn't it.

Rieko, Jordie and Clarke are dropping everything .

Give me Laumape Jordan Havili Fakatava Ennor over those lads.

Was wondering what Lumpy had done to fall out of favour.

When was he in favour? He has never been a starting all black. Not even a regular bench player.

JPNZ wrote: Fri Nov 27, 2020 10:03 pm Regardless of all the coaching mess, now it’s the players time to turn up. They won’t want to be stewing all summer on a loss. The ABs will win this by quite a margin tonight. 14+ here 1st

Well well well

Called

FujiKiwi wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:49 am I’m on the record as saying only 33% of the Barretts are any good.

In retrospect, that estimate is much too high.

I thought Beaudy was going to break Howletts record but he hasn't scored since the 1/4 final against Ireland if I recall?

The dual playmaker thing doesnt work. Just put Jordie Jordan or Havili at 15.

Then its Beaudy or Richie at 10 depending on your tastes.

Nice

Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:50 am

Ymx wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:45 am lovely move again by Jordan. But of course any winger would have done that too.

Clearly not but not connected to the 2 Argie Xmas presents.

First one was great positioning, great low pick up, and lovely running line with acceleration.

Second one was excellent intercept which was very well handled.

Last one, the break, was simply brilliant foot skills.

But, anyone would have got them. Anyway, you've some weird double down thing going on.

Kiap wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:50 am

Steve wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:47 am Havnt seen cowardice like that since they surrendered the Malvinas.

Folded like deck chars.

Poor form, son.

Agreed.

Gumboot wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:54 am

Kiap wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:50 am

Steve wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:47 am Havnt seen cowardice like that since they surrendered the Malvinas.

Folded like deck chars.

Poor form, son.

Agreed.

apologies and deleted.

What would our best team be with the Barretts on the bench?

Hard to know what to make of that. 38-0 is a fantastic scoreline, but execution was pretty poor for about 60 minutes. I guess that's test rugby at times, and posession eventually told, but can't help but think we left another 3 tries out there at least.

On the plus side, the scrum was the best it's been all season, and Nepo showed once again that he is the best scrummaging tighthead in NZ. Akira was also pretty good, surprisingly so at lineout time. Will Jordan speaks for himself. An absolute star in the making, and will surely be starting next year with another Super Rugby season behind him. A really special talent.

Will Greenwood saying on sky that AB midfield isn't right.

Says Clarke is just an impact player. Says Jordan should be in the team and that Jordie should be a sub to come on and kick a late penalty.

Ymx wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:56 am What would our best team be with the Barretts on the bench?

11. Clarke
14. Reece
15. Jordan

Might go alright.

Ymx wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:56 am What would our best team be with the Barretts on the bench?

Scott is bench anyway. Mo at ten and Jordan or DMac at 15.

obsession with the Barratheons is costing new decent wingers/fullback (reece/jordan)

Wild Beef wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:46 am

Ymx wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:44 am keep it away from the barrets

Bro I will fuck you up

Like a Barrett fucks up a kick chase?

Ymx wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:56 am What would our best team be with the Barretts on the bench?

The team will improve while BB is on sabbatical. Because there will be less accommodating in backline.

In a pleasant surprise TJ wasn’t shit.

Steve wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:58 am Will Greenwood saying on sky that AB midfield isn't right.

Says Clarke is just an impact player. Says Jordan should be in the team and that Jordie should be a sub to come on and kick a late penalty.

Jordan has better bench impact than Jordie. We just saw it. You want your penalty kickers on earlier anyway, when the bulk of penalties are scored.

mrbrownstone wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:58 am

Ymx wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:56 am What would our best team be with the Barretts on the bench?

11. Clarke
14. Reece
15. Jordan

Might go alright.

I think RIeko is a better 11 than Clarke. But im not too enamoured with either of them. Rieko scores clarkes effort in the first half ( if he doesnt drop it).

Wild Beef wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:00 am

Steve wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:58 am Will Greenwood saying on sky that AB midfield isn't right.

Says Clarke is just an impact player. Says Jordan should be in the team and that Jordie should be a sub to come on and kick a late penalty.

Jordan has better bench impact than Jordie. We just saw it. You want your penalty kickers on earlier anyway, when the bulk of penalties are scored.

Sorry he meant long distance late penalty.

mrbrownstone wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:58 am

Ymx wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:56 am What would our best team be with the Barretts on the bench?

11. Clarke
14. Reece
15. Jordan

Might go alright.

Yes. Although Jordan on the wing is looking a pretty attractive option.

Steve wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:01 am

mrbrownstone wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:58 am

Ymx wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:56 am What would our best team be with the Barretts on the bench?

11. Clarke
14. Reece
15. Jordan

Might go alright.

I think RIeko is a better 11 than Clarke. But im not too enamoured with either of them. Rieko scores clarkes effort in the first half ( if he doesnt drop it).

That’s a big if these days.

Still rather have Jordie on early to make the long distance penalty an option earlier. Scoreboard pressure. The vast majority of ab penalties come early.

Wild Beef wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:00 am

Steve wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:58 am Will Greenwood saying on sky that AB midfield isn't right.

Says Clarke is just an impact player. Says Jordan should be in the team and that Jordie should be a sub to come on and kick a late penalty.

Jordan has better bench impact than Jordie. We just saw it. You want your penalty kickers on earlier anyway, when the bulk of penalties are scored.

I think the real problem is Beauden. He needs to be benched and Jordie should replace him at 15.

Steve wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:00 am

Ymx wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:56 am What would our best team be with the Barretts on the bench?

The team will improve while BB is on sabbatical. Because there will be less accommodating in backline.

I didn’t think BB missed any ab games? Didn’t AC bitch about this?

mrbrownstone wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:58 am

Ymx wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:56 am What would our best team be with the Barretts on the bench?

11. Clarke
14. Reece
15. Jordan

Might go alright.

What about a fit Bridge?

Think bridge is out of the 23 tbh. It’s him or Jordan. Jordie has a point of difference they clearly value.

Wild Beef wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:03 am Still rather have Jordie on early to make the long distance penalty an option earlier. Scoreboard pressure. The vast majority of ab penalties come early.

He missed his long distance rather badly.

Plus, I'd rather we had a decent attack early on myself.

We tend to lose when we get behind and don't hit back to early on in matches.

Beauden hasn’t been consistently good since 2016. There’s a suspicious correlation between All Black matches featuring Scott Barrett and games they have ignominiously lost. And Jordie is slow.

Good Super Rugby players all. I hope they team up at the Blues one day. But there’s no room for all three in a starting AB line up.