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Late night surprise Macdonalds? If not, I'm not seeing it.Wild Beef wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:06 am Think bridge is out of the 23 tbh. It’s him or Jordan. Jordie has a point of difference they clearly value.
You've twisted my arm.Jb1981 wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:04 amWhat about a fit Bridge?
And mo missed a sitter, it happens. Jordie has a long range kicking game, we’ve seen enough kicks from him to know it.Ymx wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:06 amHe missed his long distance rather badly.Wild Beef wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:03 am Still rather have Jordie on early to make the long distance penalty an option earlier. Scoreboard pressure. The vast majority of ab penalties come early.
Plus, I'd rather we had a decent attack early on myself.
We tend to lose when we get behind and don't hit back to early on in matches.
He is the new McCaw on kick offs. He is the target on cross kicks (helps if they are decent). He has a huge punt and he can kick 60m penalties.
mrbrownstone wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:10 amYou've twisted my arm.
10. Mo'unga
11. Bridge
12. Goodhue
13. Ennor
14. Jordan
15. Havili
23. Reece
Do we think he has the gas to have scored the tries Jordan got tonight?Wild Beef wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:13 amHe is the new McCaw on kick offs. He is the target on cross kicks (helps if they are decent). He has a huge punt and he can kick 60m penalties.
That’s his point of difference. He is also fucking slow for a winger. Which is highly unusual for an all black
We've missed that in our wings. Howlett was great at always being positioned perfectly, and enough pace to finish it. Our wingers have not had such longevity since.Monkey Magic wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:16 amDo we think he has the gas to have scored the tries Jordan got tonight?Wild Beef wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:13 amHe is the new McCaw on kick offs. He is the target on cross kicks (helps if they are decent). He has a huge punt and he can kick 60m penalties.
That’s his point of difference. He is also fucking slow for a winger. Which is highly unusual for an all black
Best thing about Jordan is he is an outside back who scores tries, Howlett used to be the same, he just keeps scoring tries
Yeah well it isn’t is it? He was the best 15 in super rugby aotearoa.FujiKiwi wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:16 am You don’t just include a player in your team if they have a great punt but almost everything else about them is a drawback.
Yep, and unlike Mo'unga he doesn't regularly kick penalty ball away into touch in goal.Wild Beef wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:11 amAnd mo missed a sitter, it happens. Jordie has a long range kicking game, we’ve seen enough kicks from him to know it.Ymx wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:06 amHe missed his long distance rather badly.Wild Beef wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:03 am Still rather have Jordie on early to make the long distance penalty an option earlier. Scoreboard pressure. The vast majority of ab penalties come early.
Plus, I'd rather we had a decent attack early on myself.
We tend to lose when we get behind and don't hit back to early on in matches.
I also think Jordie should kick for touch. He has a huge punt.
You forget Clarke’s debut already?Steve wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:20 am We havnt seen line breaks like that all season .
Every time it got kicked deep Barrett etc just kicked it back . You need a threat at 15.
Yeah, I’d rather have a player that scores tries for fun than a bloke with a huge punt. Any. Day. Of.The. Week.FujiKiwi wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:16 am You don’t just include a player in your team if they have a great punt but almost everything else about them is a drawback.
To be honest he has dined out on those two runs for 6 matches.
I don’t disagree tbh, just making a point. Both Jordie and Clarke have largely been unable to transfer their form. That seems true of most of the team though.Steve wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:32 amTo be honest he has dined out on those two runs for 6 matches.
He butchered one against oz and butchered 2 today. He shanked a marked kick about 5 yards into touch . He scored a two yarder against Argentina in garbage time . That’s it.
If you want to be Jonah then you have to cross the chalk every now and then for a 5 pointer.
I don’t blame him to be honest . He’s not running the cutter and he isn’t an 80 minute FB. He’s a move to FB for the last 15 mins guy.Gumboot wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:36 am Beauden Barrett hasn't scored a single test try this year. Nothing from the boot, either. Zero points from six tests.
That must affect him too . No points week to week. He’s used to being in the headlines . He scored 4 tries against OZ in a match and had a 5th disallowed from flyhalf !Gumboot wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:36 am Beauden Barrett hasn't scored a single test try this year. Nothing from the boot, either. Zero points from five tests.
I totally agree.FujiKiwi wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:08 am Beauden hasn’t been consistently good since 2016. There’s a suspicious correlation between All Black matches featuring Scott Barrett and games they have ignominiously lost. And Jordie is slow.
Good Super Rugby players all. I hope they team up at the Blues one day. But there’s no room for all three in a starting AB line up.
no player has ever returned from long term injury at 100%.. just ask NMS..Jb1981 wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 11:04 amWhat about a fit Bridge?
Just mention Akira, he'll vomit.Wild Beef wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:30 am Mate a hat trick would legit make me livid. Can you imagine the crusaders lot on here over summer?
They were also very effective at set piece. Coles earned the right to run down the tram lines.Kiwias wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:48 amForwards certainly worked a lot harder at tackle/ruck time than in earlier matches, so I would take that regardless of the opposition.Flockwitt wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:45 am Paper over cracks. Need a better opposition to tell all that but if Akira can hold back the dickheadedness he's in for mine.
Fuck me are you serious?Ted. wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:08 pmThey were also very effective at set piece. Coles earned the right to run down the tram lines.Kiwias wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:48 amForwards certainly worked a lot harder at tackle/ruck time than in earlier matches, so I would take that regardless of the opposition.Flockwitt wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:45 am Paper over cracks. Need a better opposition to tell all that but if Akira can hold back the dickheadedness he's in for mine.
Better in the loose, too, but I'm still worried bu the imbalance of the starting trio. By rights, purely on tonight's performance, the starting loosies should Ioane, Savea and Sotutu, with Same cane backing up 6 and 7.
Our halves are also still playing like dickheads, and I include BB in that mix. Mo was particularly poor. Though I reckon that, collectively, is all down to Foster/ Kick kick kick kick.
He was close to our best back.Mo? Out best back? Yes, from a very low bar, but even then you'd need to be deranged to come up with the streaming pile of opinionated bilge. Cross filed kicks, bombs, running sideways and backwards. That was just BBB, Mo was worse.Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:11 pmFuck me are you serious?Ted. wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:08 pmThey were also very effective at set piece. Coles earned the right to run down the tram lines.Kiwias wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:48 am
Forwards certainly worked a lot harder at tackle/ruck time than in earlier matches, so I would take that regardless of the opposition.
Better in the loose, too, but I'm still worried bu the imbalance of the starting trio. By rights, purely on tonight's performance, the starting loosies should Ioane, Savea and Sotutu, with Same cane backing up 6 and 7.
Our halves are also still playing like dickheads, and I include BB in that mix. Mo was particularly poor. Though I reckon that, collectively, is all down to Foster/ Kick kick kick kick.
Be sure to send BB fan mail in Japan won't you.
Fuck me the Canes mafia is out in force.Ted. wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:20 pmMo? Out best back? Yes, from a very low bar, but even then you'd need to be deranged to come up with the streaming pile of opinionated bilge. Cross filed kicks, bombs, running sideways and backwards. That was just BBB, Mo was worse.Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:11 pmFuck me are you serious?Ted. wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:08 pm
They were also very effective at set piece. Coles earned the right to run down the tram lines.
Better in the loose, too, but I'm still worried bu the imbalance of the starting trio. By rights, purely on tonight's performance, the starting loosies should Ioane, Savea and Sotutu, with Same cane backing up 6 and 7.
Our halves are also still playing like dickheads, and I include BB in that mix. Mo was particularly poor. Though I reckon that, collectively, is all down to Foster/ Kick kick kick kick.
Be sure to send BB fan mail in Japan won't you.
Don't be disingenuous Ted. After setting up the opening try for Coles, kicking a couple of crackers from the sideline and generally marshalling the backline division well, you're never going to rate Mo'unga are you?Ted. wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:20 pmMo? Out best back? Yes, from a very low bar, but even then you'd need to be deranged to come up with the streaming pile of opinionated bilge. Cross filed kicks, bombs, running sideways and backwards. That was just BBB, Mo was worse.Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:11 pmFuck me are you serious?Ted. wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:08 pm
They were also very effective at set piece. Coles earned the right to run down the tram lines.
Better in the loose, too, but I'm still worried bu the imbalance of the starting trio. By rights, purely on tonight's performance, the starting loosies should Ioane, Savea and Sotutu, with Same cane backing up 6 and 7.
Our halves are also still playing like dickheads, and I include BB in that mix. Mo was particularly poor. Though I reckon that, collectively, is all down to Foster/ Kick kick kick kick.
Be sure to send BB fan mail in Japan won't you.
Sorry, Jimmy, where did I praise Barrett or elevate him over Mo. One comment please, just one, or shut the fuck up.Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:28 pmFuck me the Canes mafia is out in force.Ted. wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:20 pmMo? Out best back? Yes, from a very low bar, but even then you'd need to be deranged to come up with the streaming pile of opinionated bilge. Cross filed kicks, bombs, running sideways and backwards. That was just BBB, Mo was worse.Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:11 pm
Fuck me are you serious?
Be sure to send BB fan mail in Japan won't you.
The only Barrett who should be starting, ironically, is Scott. He was industrious today, while his brothers were kicking the ball away and doing 2/3 of fuck all.
Will Jordan came on and reminded us all what Jordie isn't. An outside back with pace.
Beauden meanwhile once again dicked around doing fuck all, looking like a shadow of the 2016 WORLD RUGBY PLAYER OF THE YEAR his fans masturbate to and by the way isn't a real award anyway. A popular vote players get pissed to and vote on for laughs.
Had to be said, Ted. Beauden fans wank on about his TWO rugby player of the year awards, both gathering dust and neither reflecting a player genuinely tested by rush defence at 10.Ted. wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:43 pmSorry, Jimmy, where did I praise Barrett or elevate him over Mo. One comment please, just one, or shut the fuck up.Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:28 pmFuck me the Canes mafia is out in force.Ted. wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 12:20 pm
Mo? Out best back? Yes, from a very low bar, but even then you'd need to be deranged to come up with the streaming pile of opinionated bilge. Cross filed kicks, bombs, running sideways and backwards. That was just BBB, Mo was worse.
The only Barrett who should be starting, ironically, is Scott. He was industrious today, while his brothers were kicking the ball away and doing 2/3 of fuck all.
Will Jordan came on and reminded us all what Jordie isn't. An outside back with pace.
Beauden meanwhile once again dicked around doing fuck all, looking like a shadow of the 2016 WORLD RUGBY PLAYER OF THE YEAR his fans masturbate to and by the way isn't a real award anyway. A popular vote players get pissed to and vote on for laughs.
The truth is, neither were especially good. In fact, both were poor.
Now, put your knee jerk, inferiority complex away, everyone is looking at it.
Affirmation bias runs strong in this one Luke.Ymx wrote: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:54 am First one was great positioning, great low pick up, and lovely running line with acceleration.
Second one was excellent intercept which was very well handled.
Last one, the break, was simply brilliant foot skills.
But, anyone would have got them. Anyway, you've some weird double down thing going on.