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Club rugby returns tomorrow

2 premiership games off due to Covid
Aberdeen v Accies
Jed V Selkirk

walletoraccess wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 11:08 am 2 premiership games off due to Covid
Aberdeen v Accies
Jed V Selkirk

Oh FFS

Apparently there's 5 or 6 Warriors players who are unavailable at the moment as well due to covid protocols.

KingBlairhorn wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:25 am

Biffer wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:06 am

KingBlairhorn wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 7:58 am

I can only assume there is a market that laps this kind of thing up as they just drone on and on with their shitty opinions ad infinitum.

The only reason there is a vacancy at all is that one of the top jobs in Scotland has been filled by a Scottish guy. However, who really cares - whilst its nice to see a Scottish coach make it that should only ever be on merit. Surely the point is to be the best we can possibly be at rugby at both club and international level, not to give jobs to the boys which has always been my main criticism of Scottish Rugby administration.

As an aside, all these lads that apparently are good enough to be pro coaches but aren't being offered jobs due to their nationality, the world's richest two leagues are in neighbouring countries. Why not try for a (very well paid) job there and then come back and take an SRU job when you have the experience and skills required.

The TOL market is the old club man who thinks professionalism was a mistake and if it had to happen the SRU should have given the money to the clubs. Some of them have this ridiculous idea that they'd all be clubs the size of Northampton and Bath right now if that had been done.

It's an especially odd viewpoint given that it is almost exactly what was done at the advent of professionalism, and it was a disaster that set back Scottish rugby by twenty odd years. In contrast Ireland (who were nowhere near our level at the onset of professionalism) went with the district model right away and look at them now.

What could have been.

There was more to it than that, though. The SRU were hopelessly skint when the game went pro, as they had just rebuilt MF. There was no money to fund pro rugby properly. The IRFU had failed to do anything much about Lansdowne Rd at that point and were able to put in the money. The Irish provinces had some early success and were able to build a supporter base, and kicked in from there.

Really like the design. Can't buy one with that sponsor all over it.

Not too bad but looks more like a training shirt than match top without the collar.

Big no no on the logo - looks weirdly cut off at the bottom without the word Scotland under it.

Yr Alban wrote: Wed Sep 08, 2021 5:50 pm

KingBlairhorn wrote: Fri Sep 03, 2021 8:25 am

Biffer wrote: Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:06 am

The TOL market is the old club man who thinks professionalism was a mistake and if it had to happen the SRU should have given the money to the clubs. Some of them have this ridiculous idea that they'd all be clubs the size of Northampton and Bath right now if that had been done.

It's an especially odd viewpoint given that it is almost exactly what was done at the advent of professionalism, and it was a disaster that set back Scottish rugby by twenty odd years. In contrast Ireland (who were nowhere near our level at the onset of professionalism) went with the district model right away and look at them now.

What could have been.

There was more to it than that, though. The SRU were hopelessly skint when the game went pro, as they had just rebuilt MF. There was no money to fund pro rugby properly. The IRFU had failed to do anything much about Lansdowne Rd at that point and were able to put in the money. The Irish provinces had some early success and were able to build a supporter base, and kicked in from there.

Timing was also key in external factors for Ireland. Rugby turned professional around the same time that there was a growing amount of disposable income in Ireland as the economy blossomed. People with that money, and companies that were establishing themselves in Dublin in particular, were looking for entertainment. There's no other sport in Ireland where they compete at club level against other professional clubs, either domestically or cross border. So there was a massive willing fanbase waiting to be give them money.

Weegie Squad for Worcester game

1. Tom Lambert
2. Johnny Matthews
3. Simon Berghan
4. Lewis Bean
5. Richie Gray
6. Scott Cummings
7. Rory Darge
8. Ryan Wilson (C)
9. George Horne
10. Ross Thompson
11. Cole Forbes
12. Sam Johnson
13. Sione Tuipulotu
14. Rufus McLean
15. Stafford McDowall

Replacements: Grant Stewart, Brad Thyer*, Murray McCallum, Murphy Walker**, Rob Harley, Max Williamson**, Rory Jackson**, Thomas Gordon, Jack Dempsey, Jamie Dobie, Duncan Weir, Pete Horne, Nick Grigg, Ollie Smith, Finlay Callaghan**.

Cummings at 6 is an interesting call

Wonder how McDowall at 15 will go , we have some strength at 12 with Horne & Johnson

Mikey Blair's first team (and first game at the ERS).

Bit surprised we are struggling for locks already. There's a decent team just about in that injury list.

Edinburgh Rugby team to face Newcastle Falcons at the ERS
Scottish Building Society Pre-Season Series (Saturday 11 September, kick-off 3pm)

15. Henry Immelman
14. Jack Blain
13. Mark Bennett
12. Cammy Hutchison
11. Damien Hoyland
10. Jaco van der Walt
9. Ben Vellacott

1. Boan Venter
2. David Cherry CAPTAIN
3. Luan de Bruin
4. Marshall Sykes
5. Jamie Hodgson
6. Magnus Bradbury
7. Luke Crosbie
8. Nick Haining

Substitutes: Pierre Schoeman, Harry Lloyd, Adam McBurney, Patrick Harrison, Lee-Roy Atalifo, Angus Williams, Pierce Phillips, Daniel Suddon, Ben Muncaster, Connor Boyle, Charlie Shiel, Henry Pyrgos, Charlie Savala, Ramiro Moyano, Jordan Venter, James Johnstone, Patrick Anderson

Unavailable due to injury: Matt Currie, Chris Dean, Ben Evans, Darcy Graham, Jake Henry, James Lang, Viliame Mata, Harri Morris, WP Nel, Harry Paterson, Nathan Sweeney, Ben Toolis, George Taylor, Glen Young

Lots of names there I don't recognise.

Anyone going to the game? Leave a wee review of the ground if you will. Going to try to make the Stormers match and see it for myself.

Boffelli is on the bench v NZ btw.

robmatic wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:47 am Mikey Blair's first team (and first game at the ERS).

Bit surprised we are struggling for locks already. There's a decent team just about in that injury list.

I think that starting paring is the future for Edinburgh, Sykes came on to a really strong patch of form towards the tail end of last season and Hodgson was impressive every time he played.
Pierce Phillips was with Agen, iirc and Daniel Suddon is in the Southern Knights side, I can't say I know anything more about either of them.
Gilcho is obviously being held back but that injury list before we even start is alarming.

We had a terrible time with injuries last season, we're due a bit of a change in fortunes there.

Jock42 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:58 am Lots of names there I don't recognise.

Anyone going to the game? Leave a wee review of the ground if you will. Going to try to make the Stormers match and see it for myself.

Aiming for the Stormers match also

Tichtheid wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:47 am

robmatic wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:47 am Mikey Blair's first team (and first game at the ERS).

Bit surprised we are struggling for locks already. There's a decent team just about in that injury list.

I think that starting paring is the future for Edinburgh, Sykes came on to a really strong patch of form towards the tail end of last season and Hodgson was impressive every time he played.
Pierce Phillips was with Agen, iirc and Daniel Suddon is in the Southern Knights side, I can't say I know anything more about either of them.
Gilcho is obviously being held back but that injury list before we even start is alarming.

We had a terrible time with injuries last season, we're due a bit of a change in fortunes there.

I thought that run of games in the Rainbow Cup was really valuable for Sykes, he needed a couple of games to get up to speed with senior rugby and then he started to get really stuck in - helps that he's a big unit.

It's been a while since we've seen Toolis and I think we miss him more than we miss Gilcho. He's a real point of difference in the set piece at league level.

Slick wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:50 am

Jock42 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:58 am Lots of names there I don't recognise.

Anyone going to the game? Leave a wee review of the ground if you will. Going to try to make the Stormers match and see it for myself.

Aiming for the Stormers match also

At least you have a nice new stadium to rustle your sweetie papers in

Slick wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:50 am

Jock42 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:58 am Lots of names there I don't recognise.

Anyone going to the game? Leave a wee review of the ground if you will. Going to try to make the Stormers match and see it for myself.

Aiming for the Stormers match also

give me a shout if you're around for a beer.

Dogbert wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:22 am

Slick wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:50 am

Jock42 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:58 am Lots of names there I don't recognise.

Anyone going to the game? Leave a wee review of the ground if you will. Going to try to make the Stormers match and see it for myself.

Aiming for the Stormers match also

At least you have a nice new stadium to rustle your sweetie papers in

Shush.

Jock42 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:33 pm

Slick wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:50 am

Jock42 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:58 am Lots of names there I don't recognise.

Anyone going to the game? Leave a wee review of the ground if you will. Going to try to make the Stormers match and see it for myself.

Aiming for the Stormers match also

give me a shout if you're around for a beer.

Will do definitely, think there might be a couple more coming as well (HJKC and Crash) - inactionman was also keen for a meet at some point.

Slick wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:35 pm

Jock42 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:33 pm

Slick wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:50 am

Aiming for the Stormers match also

give me a shout if you're around for a beer.

Will do definitely, think there might be a couple more coming as well (HJKC and Crash) - inactionman was also keen for a meet at some point.

Happy days.

robmatic wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:35 pm

Dogbert wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 11:22 am

Slick wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:50 am

Aiming for the Stormers match also

At least you have a nice new stadium to rustle your sweetie papers in

Shush.

It will be a veritable cauldron of shushing and tutting.

Slick wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:35 pm

Jock42 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:33 pm

Slick wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:50 am

Aiming for the Stormers match also

give me a shout if you're around for a beer.

Will do definitely, think there might be a couple more coming as well (HJKC and Crash) - inactionman was also keen for a meet at some point.

Very keen - I've been here for getting on 4 years and still not met any of you fine men. Only stumbling block is we've recently adopted two little'uns and not quite in a place where we can take Saturdays off. Might be a different case in month's time?

I've not renewed season ticket as just won't be able to go that often, assume tickets won't be that hard to come by.

inactionman wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:00 pm

Slick wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:35 pm

Jock42 wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:33 pm

give me a shout if you're around for a beer.

Will do definitely, think there might be a couple more coming as well (HJKC and Crash) - inactionman was also keen for a meet at some point.

Very keen - I've been here for getting on 4 years and still not met any of you fine men. Only stumbling block is we've recently adopted two little'uns and not quite in a place where we can take Saturdays off. Might be a different case in month's time?

I've not renewed season ticket as just won't be able to go that often, assume tickets won't be that hard to come by.

Congratulations!

Yeah, things will be totally different in a months time, no stress, no tiredness, plenty of spare time, see you then!

Challenge Cup

Pool C

Brive
Embra
Ldn Irish
Sarries
Pau

Round 1 Sarries v Edin weekend of 10th Dec
Round 2 bye for Edin
Round 3 Ldn Irish v Edin w/e of 14th Jan
Round 4 Edin v Brive w/e of 21st Jan
Round 5 Edin v Pau w/e of 8th of April

https://www.epcrugby.com/challenge-cup/ ... d-results/

Slick wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:57 pm

inactionman wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:00 pm

Slick wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 12:35 pm

Will do definitely, think there might be a couple more coming as well (HJKC and Crash) - inactionman was also keen for a meet at some point.

Very keen - I've been here for getting on 4 years and still not met any of you fine men. Only stumbling block is we've recently adopted two little'uns and not quite in a place where we can take Saturdays off. Might be a different case in month's time?

I've not renewed season ticket as just won't be able to go that often, assume tickets won't be that hard to come by.

Congratulations!

Yeah, things will be totally different in a months time, no stress, no tiredness, plenty of spare time, see you then!

You do learn how to function on 3 hours sleep?

inactionman wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:09 pm

Slick wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:57 pm

inactionman wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:00 pm

Very keen - I've been here for getting on 4 years and still not met any of you fine men. Only stumbling block is we've recently adopted two little'uns and not quite in a place where we can take Saturdays off. Might be a different case in month's time?

I've not renewed season ticket as just won't be able to go that often, assume tickets won't be that hard to come by.

Congratulations!

Yeah, things will be totally different in a months time, no stress, no tiredness, plenty of spare time, see you then!

You do learn how to function on 3 hours sleep?

We had three ankle biters with four years between the oldest and youngest, the first couple of winters are hard going because they don't get to run about as much as they do in the summer.
You'll get there, it's amazing how resilient and able to function on sleep deprivation you become .

and, from an earlier post, you've been an Embra season ticket holder, this will be a breeze in comparison.

Congratulations btw.

Tichtheid wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:59 pm Challenge Cup

Pool C

Brive
Embra
Ldn Irish
Sarries
Pau

Round 1 Sarries v Edin weekend of 10th Dec
Round 2 bye for Edin
Round 3 Ldn Irish v Edin w/e of 14th Jan
Round 4 Edin v Brive w/e of 21st Jan
Round 5 Edin v Pau w/e of 8th of April

https://www.epcrugby.com/challenge-cup/ ... d-results/

No away game in France? NY resolution was to go to away games in France!

I have my season ticket so should be at most games. If there’s a cabal I can slip away from my normal group to grace you all with my presence. No independence talk permitted, if it starts to go that way someone needs to just start talking about Jordie Barrett kicking people in the face and they should have cracked down on dirty jumping bastards when that Welsh cunt split Chris Patterson’s kidney.

Slick wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 3:26 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 2:59 pm Challenge Cup

Pool C

Brive
Embra
Ldn Irish
Sarries
Pau

Round 1 Sarries v Edin weekend of 10th Dec
Round 2 bye for Edin
Round 3 Ldn Irish v Edin w/e of 14th Jan
Round 4 Edin v Brive w/e of 21st Jan
Round 5 Edin v Pau w/e of 8th of April

https://www.epcrugby.com/challenge-cup/ ... d-results/

No away game in France? NY resolution was to go to away games in France!

Same. Went to Montpellier and Toulon a couple of years ago, fantastic despite getting tear gassed in Toulon.

Biffer wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 5:53 pm I have my season ticket so should be at most games. If there’s a cabal I can slip away from my normal group to grace you all with my presence. No independence talk permitted, if it starts to go that way someone needs to just start talking about Jordie Barrett kicking people in the face and they should have cracked down on dirty jumping bastards when that Welsh cunt split Chris Patterson’s kidney.

Great! So cabal up to a potential 6 so far

Anyone else not getting the Super6 stream?

Slick wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:33 pm Anyone else not getting the Super6 stream?

I’ve got it via the SRU site

https://www.scottishrugby.org/fanzone/w ... ive-stream

Tichtheid wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:41 pm

Slick wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 6:33 pm Anyone else not getting the Super6 stream?

I’ve got it via the SRU site

https://www.scottishrugby.org/fanzone/w ... ive-stream

Thank you. Just got it on YouTube but the iPlayer is knackered

The Nails could have been down to 12 there, they’re fortunate they can’t do video reviews

Really nice try from Heriots

Tichtheid wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:29 pm Really nice try from Heriots

It was. Stopped me turning it off as not really enjoying this one

Slick wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:35 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:29 pm Really nice try from Heriots

It was. Stopped me turning it off as not really enjoying this one

My granny used to say of my granddad that he’d watch kids playing football in the park, jumpers for goalposts. He’d go to Hampden but he preferred junior football.

I’m similar with rugby, I’ll watch anything

Tichtheid wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:39 pm

Slick wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:35 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:29 pm Really nice try from Heriots

It was. Stopped me turning it off as not really enjoying this one

My granny used to say of my granddad that he’d watch kids playing football in the park, jumpers for goalposts. He’d go to Hampden but he preferred junior football.

I’m similar with rugby, I’ll watch anything

I’m much the same with watching it in person but find myself getting distracted with some games on TV. The Watsonians team appealing every decision is doing my head in a bit as well

Edit: no idea who the female co commentator is but she is really good

Slick wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:50 pm

Tichtheid wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:39 pm

Slick wrote: Fri Sep 10, 2021 7:35 pm

It was. Stopped me turning it off as not really enjoying this one

My granny used to say of my granddad that he’d watch kids playing football in the park, jumpers for goalposts. He’d go to Hampden but he preferred junior football.

I’m similar with rugby, I’ll watch anything

I’m much the same with watching it in person but find myself getting distracted with some games on TV. The Watsonians team appealing every decision is doing my head in a bit as well

Edit: no idea who the female co commentator is but she is really good

Rhona something, she’s the Nails’ women and girls co-ordinator they said.

Aye she knows her stuff