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Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 12:05 pm
by Ymx
Blake wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:48 am
Raggs wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:30 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:24 am

Amm
Was that the bok not retreating out of the 10m from the kick?
That was the claim by the referee and the TMO.
But YouTubers have shown that it was yet another bullshit call against the Boks by a TMO.

The only Boks that advanced were onside and all the Boks within 10m that were offside retreated.

The exceptions were Kwagga and Marx.
Kwagga was on the ground, and he retreated as soon as he got to his feet. Marx started advancing, looked up to see where the kick was, saw it was shallow and started retreating.



I’m actually pleasantly surprised how well the Bok players knew the law and adapted on the fly. Am has to be one of the smartest players we’ve ever had.

Glad we didn’t lose the match due to that call, but still annoyed that we got shafted by the TMO yet again.
Blimey that was harsh.

On not retreating, I think it was Tuilagi yesterday getting praise from the commentary of doing 2 actions in very close proximity. Though in the replay, it was simply because he was miles offside.

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 12:12 pm
by Blake
Slick wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:51 am Am is a tremendous rugby player, very intelligent, always seems to pick the right option, amazing range and subtlety of passing
I wonder if players like him perceive the world in slow motion. He just seems to have so much time when he is reading the other players and the situation around him.

Reminds me a lot of Conrad Smith in that regard.

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 12:53 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Slick wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:51 am Am is a tremendous rugby player, very intelligent, always seems to pick the right option, amazing range and subtlety of passing
May be my favourite player: mainly because he always seem to calm and happy whilst playing.

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:17 pm
by JM2K6
Blake wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 10:48 am
Raggs wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:30 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:24 am

Amm
Was that the bok not retreating out of the 10m from the kick?
That was the claim by the referee and the TMO.
But YouTubers have shown that it was yet another bullshit call against the Boks by a TMO.

The only Boks that advanced were onside and all the Boks within 10m that were offside retreated.

The exceptions were Kwagga and Marx.
Kwagga was on the ground, and he retreated as soon as he got to his feet. Marx started advancing, looked up to see where the kick was, saw it was shallow and started retreating.



I’m actually pleasantly surprised how well the Bok players knew the law and adapted on the fly. Am has to be one of the smartest players we’ve ever had.

Glad we didn’t lose the match due to that call, but still annoyed that we got shafted by the TMO yet again.
Marx's "started retreating" means he didn't actually retreat at all - he ended up back where he started, not moving further back. Everyone else did a great job, but he initially advanced then only made a token effort to get out of the 10. It's the sort of penalty you see plenty of. You have to properly try, not just move forward, take a couple of steps back, then decide you've done enough.

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:18 pm
by JM2K6
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 12:53 pm
Slick wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 11:51 am Am is a tremendous rugby player, very intelligent, always seems to pick the right option, amazing range and subtlety of passing
May be my favourite player: mainly because he always seem to calm and happy whilst playing.
Was very strange just how dreadful he was in the early rounds of the RC.

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:19 pm
by Raggs
19 clearly never gets out the 10m either... its not just retreating, it's retreating outside the 10m.

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:29 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Got some massive T Bones going before the the Scotland down the Wannabies.

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:30 pm
by Plim
I just wish refs and video review would come down more on offsides at restart kicks. My impression was that the French were taking the piss yesterday, but I haven’t been back over the match to be more sure. If a chaser going early gets two or three illegal yards and then possession from the challenge that’s quite a big advantage.

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:23 pm
by OomStruisbaai
JoC is a kak kicker

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:24 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Pierre 1 , Wal 0

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:26 pm
by TheNatalShark
I appreciate the tactic, but clearly leaving the line-out with that much movement.

And if you're going to do it, it best work as well.

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:29 pm
by Paddington Bear
Quick tap was silly and I suspect has saved Australia a card as well

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:32 pm
by FalseBayFC
Australia have a South African waterboy. :grin:

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:32 pm
by charltom
What happened to Turner?

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:34 pm
by Blackmac
That was a yellow every day of the week

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:35 pm
by TheNatalShark
charltom wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:32 pm What happened to Turner?
They hadn't been commed yet. Looked uncomfortable without limping

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:36 pm
by boere wors
great play by the scots :thumbup:

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:36 pm
by TheNatalShark
Blackmac wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:34 pm That was a yellow every day of the week
I'm fine with Poite's explanation that the lines had already been reset by the time Price got there to play it.

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:36 pm
by Paddington Bear
Ball was clearly grounded and this was obvious straight away. Hogg did well to con them but get on with it

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:37 pm
by OomStruisbaai
They should take their 3 points

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:37 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Justice

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:37 pm
by GogLais
I’m out of touch/ignorant. Not a drop out from under the posts then?

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:38 pm
by GogLais
Of course - it’s when a player’s held up.

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:38 pm
by Blackmac
TheNatalShark wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:36 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:34 pm That was a yellow every day of the week
I'm fine with Poite's explanation that the lines had already been reset by the time Price got there to play it.
Shouldn't matter, it was a cynical professional foul, unless the wallaby hasn't a bloody clue about the breakdown rules.

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:40 pm
by Dragster
TheNatalShark wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:35 pm
charltom wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:32 pm What happened to Turner?
They hadn't been commed yet. Looked uncomfortable without limping
Looked bizarre!

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:40 pm
by TheNatalShark
Blackmac wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:38 pm
TheNatalShark wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:36 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:34 pm That was a yellow every day of the week
I'm fine with Poite's explanation that the lines had already been reset by the time Price got there to play it.
Shouldn't matter, it was a cynical professional foul, unless the wallaby hasn't a bloody clue about the breakdown rules.
Hogg made that point, and Poite disagreed.

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:41 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Nice crowd

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:41 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Take the vokken 3 points!!!

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:42 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Great try

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:42 pm
by Blackmac
TheNatalShark wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:40 pm
Blackmac wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:38 pm
TheNatalShark wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:36 pm

I'm fine with Poite's explanation that the lines had already been reset by the time Price got there to play it.
Shouldn't matter, it was a cynical professional foul, unless the wallaby hasn't a bloody clue about the breakdown rules.
Hogg made that point, and Poite disagreed.
He was wrong

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:42 pm
by Blake
Aussies begging for a card now.

Scotland looking dangerous.

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:42 pm
by TheNatalShark
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:41 pm Take the vokken 3 points!!!
First instinct is no ways was that not blocking.

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:43 pm
by Blackmac
No try

On second view Gilchrist kept the ball

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:43 pm
by charltom
Nice drive.

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:45 pm
by PCPhil
Looks fine. Heard of ref prima donnas why does the remote numpty try to get in the act.

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:45 pm
by TheNatalShark
charltom wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:43 pmNice drive.
Very well executed.

Ashman settling in well so far.

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:46 pm
by boere wors
brave scotland. well played

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:47 pm
by Blake
charltom wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:43 pmNice drive.
Very clever. Worried for the Boks next week.

Scotland are tricksy at the lineouts and with Russel and Hogg…tricksy in the backs as well. Boks are going to have to be wide awake to contain them.

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:48 pm
by Paddington Bear
Is this Larkham’s first commentary gig?

Re: Weekend thread - Ita v NZ 1p | Eng v Ton 3.15p | Wal v SA 5.30p | Fra v Arg 8p | Sco v Aus Sun 2.15

Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:49 pm
by Blackmac
Fagerson has Slipper on toast