Re: Not Heineken Cup 23/24
Posted: Sat Jan 20, 2024 5:57 pm
Thought Mitchell might have just been held up there, but great composure to keep hold of the ball and groun it while being twisted every which way.
He was making absolutely no sense.Oxbow wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:23 pm Jesus, these Irish commentators are frotting themselves into a frenzy.
......and Langdon's A team match out of the window if that red is upheldASMO wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:27 pm Game totally ruined by a wholly incompetant ref, will watch something else until the Sarries game comes on
I cannot see how that can be upheld. It's a red if intentional or reckless, it eas clearly not intentional and entering a ruck isn't reckless.
Are you saying it was deliberate?PornDog wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:34 pm Did you guys not watch the replays or something? The first head-knee contact was complete accident, rugby incident, play on etc
The 2nd one though is very dodge - can't see how that is a natural movement to help you win a ruck. Absolutely deserved red.
Saw the replays plenty. In real time it just looks like a guy continuing to try push into and against the ruck. In super slow mo it looks a bit odd, but you can see Langdon's not even looking at the bloke.PornDog wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:34 pm Did you guys not watch the replays or something? The first head-knee contact was complete accident, rugby incident, play on etc
The 2nd one though is very dodge - can't see how that is a natural movement to help you win a ruck. Absolutely deserved red.
Only one person can answer that. It doesn't look like a natural movement and is completely unessecary, which means it's at least reckless.inactionman wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:35 pmAre you saying it was deliberate?PornDog wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:34 pm Did you guys not watch the replays or something? The first head-knee contact was complete accident, rugby incident, play on etc
The 2nd one though is very dodge - can't see how that is a natural movement to help you win a ruck. Absolutely deserved red.
Yeah, I'm not a massive fan of Munster but that second hit was him putting his knee in deliberately.PornDog wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:34 pm Did you guys not watch the replays or something? The first head-knee contact was complete accident, rugby incident, play on etc
The 2nd one though is very dodge - can't see how that is a natural movement to help you win a ruck. Absolutely deserved red.
Quite. He extended his leg to continue pushing. Doubt he knew his head was there.sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:37 pmSaw the replays plenty. In real time it just looks like a guy continuing to try push into and against the ruck. In super slow mo it looks a bit odd, but you can see Langdon's not even looking at the bloke.PornDog wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:34 pm Did you guys not watch the replays or something? The first head-knee contact was complete accident, rugby incident, play on etc
The 2nd one though is very dodge - can't see how that is a natural movement to help you win a ruck. Absolutely deserved red.
Not for the ref to determine that. Panel can make the call on that but if players are not punished for kneeing players in the head (twice) on the basis that it's an accident then the accidents will keep happening.inactionman wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:35 pmAre you saying it was deliberate?PornDog wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:34 pm Did you guys not watch the replays or something? The first head-knee contact was complete accident, rugby incident, play on etc
The 2nd one though is very dodge - can't see how that is a natural movement to help you win a ruck. Absolutely deserved red.
Then I hope this red card stops the spate of knees to head that we have not seen at all..Uncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:42 pmNot for the ref to determine that. Panel can make the call on that but if players are not punished for kneeing players in the head (twice) on the basis that it's an accident then the accidents will keep happening.inactionman wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:35 pmAre you saying it was deliberate?PornDog wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:34 pm Did you guys not watch the replays or something? The first head-knee contact was complete accident, rugby incident, play on etc
The 2nd one though is very dodge - can't see how that is a natural movement to help you win a ruck. Absolutely deserved red.
https://x.com/joenaconnacht/status/1748 ... kTdPwXSZ9Q
Knee to head today (twice).inactionman wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:44 pmThen I hope this red card stops the spate of knees to head that we have not seen at all..Uncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:42 pmNot for the ref to determine that. Panel can make the call on that but if players are not punished for kneeing players in the head (twice) on the basis that it's an accident then the accidents will keep happening.
https://x.com/joenaconnacht/status/1748 ... kTdPwXSZ9Q
RancidUncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:50 pmKnee to head today (twice).inactionman wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:44 pmThen I hope this red card stops the spate of knees to head that we have not seen at all..Uncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:42 pm
Not for the ref to determine that. Panel can make the call on that but if players are not punished for kneeing players in the head (twice) on the basis that it's an accident then the accidents will keep happening.
https://x.com/joenaconnacht/status/1748 ... kTdPwXSZ9Q
Boot to head last night.
Why are English teams so dirty?
Uncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:42 pmNot for the ref to determine that. Panel can make the call on that but if players are not punished for kneeing players in the head (twice) on the basis that it's an accident then the accidents will keep happening.inactionman wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:35 pmAre you saying it was deliberate?PornDog wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:34 pm Did you guys not watch the replays or something? The first head-knee contact was complete accident, rugby incident, play on etc
The 2nd one though is very dodge - can't see how that is a natural movement to help you win a ruck. Absolutely deserved red.
https://x.com/joenaconnacht/status/1748 ... kTdPwXSZ9Q
That makes absolutely no sense.
It's a good question. Difficult to answer. Certainly more difficult than the question of why Irish sides have so many players who inspire attempts to hit them in the face, anyway.Uncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:50 pmKnee to head today (twice).inactionman wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:44 pmThen I hope this red card stops the spate of knees to head that we have not seen at all..Uncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:42 pm
Not for the ref to determine that. Panel can make the call on that but if players are not punished for kneeing players in the head (twice) on the basis that it's an accident then the accidents will keep happening.
https://x.com/joenaconnacht/status/1748 ... kTdPwXSZ9Q
Boot to head last night.
Why are English teams so dirty?
We all remember how Ferris turned fishhooking Dylan Hartley into a bite. Irish victimhood is bone deep.Uncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:58 pm Blaming the victims of foul play.
Never change you perfidious anglo Saxons.
I have no idea what you're talking about but your sense of grievance is palpable.JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:02 pmWe all remember how Ferris turned fishhooking Dylan Hartley into a bite. Irish victimhood is bone deep.Uncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:58 pm Blaming the victims of foul play.
Never change you perfidious anglo Saxons.
Wow, that is some dropgoal from Fin Smith.
Selective memory - a regularly used weapon in the arsenal of the oppressor.Uncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:05 pmI have no idea what you're talking about but your sense of grievance is palpable.JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:02 pmWe all remember how Ferris turned fishhooking Dylan Hartley into a bite. Irish victimhood is bone deep.Uncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 6:58 pm Blaming the victims of foul play.
Never change you perfidious anglo Saxons.
Wow, that is some dropgoal from Fin Smith.
Also Casey's arm wrapped around Dingwall's neck as the assistant tackler.JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:08 pmSelective memory - a regularly used weapon in the arsenal of the oppressor.Uncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:05 pmI have no idea what you're talking about but your sense of grievance is palpable.JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:02 pm
We all remember how Ferris turned fishhooking Dylan Hartley into a bite. Irish victimhood is bone deep.
Wow, that is some dropgoal from Fin Smith.
Dodgy turnover decision there - no clear release followed by hands on the floor and nowhere near the ball.
And then the penalty kick that follows times out well before he kicks it.
Totally missed that but yes, he hits him straight in the necksockwithaticket wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:10 pmAlso Casey's arm wrapped around Dingwall's neck as the assistant tackler.JM2K6 wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:08 pmSelective memory - a regularly used weapon in the arsenal of the oppressor.Uncle fester wrote: Sat Jan 20, 2024 7:05 pm
I have no idea what you're talking about but your sense of grievance is palpable.
Dodgy turnover decision there - no clear release followed by hands on the floor and nowhere near the ball.
And then the penalty kick that follows times out well before he kicks it.
What's the point of a shot clock if it's ignored?