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Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 4:55 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Watching the English final. Green , AE & Wilco show

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:15 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Wilco score

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:45 pm
by OomStruisbaai
AE score. Nice

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:49 pm
by Blake
Green and Lewies also involved in that try.

All 4 chicken runners having a blinder.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:50 pm
by Chilli
This is a great advert for rugby.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:44 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Was great to watch.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:24 am
by assfly
What a game.

Hard to understate how much those four Saffers have improved at Quins. I know they're all out of the Bok picture, but they have all had outstanding seasons. With a surname like Green, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets called up by England or someone else due to a distant British relative. Louw must be one of the best tightheads in Europe. Take away AE's two red cards and he's easily the best 12 in the premiership. And Lewies will do down as a premiership winning captain.

Just shows what proper coaching and management can do.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:50 am
by Chilli
assfly wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:24 am What a game.

Hard to understate how much those four Saffers have improved at Quins. I know they're all out of the Bok picture, but they have all had outstanding seasons. With a surname like Green, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets called up by England or someone else due to a distant British relative. Louw must be one of the best tightheads in Europe. Take away AE's two red cards and he's easily the best 12 in the premiership. And Lewies will do down as a premiership winning captain.

Just shows what proper coaching and management can do.

AE is combining his brute strength 💪 (Hi Sards) with some skill that he never showed when playing for $harks.

Lewies is such an improved player.

It goes to show how crap our set up in South Africa is.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:02 am
by OomStruisbaai
I was surprised with the Quins scrum with the English Viking on LH and Wilco at TH going backwards. The Gray lock from Exeter is a great player. Can't believe he did not made the Lions squad.

AE and Green was uitstekend. Green is such a talent.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:08 am
by assfly
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:02 am Green is such a talent.
I rememeber him being ok for the Lions but not much more. Never thought I'd see him putting in cup final-winning performances like he has done recently. Small guy, big heart.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:09 am
by assfly
Also a shoutout to Jason Jenkins. Great game (and season) from him, his pass to put Hogg away in the final 10 was class.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Threa7d

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:22 am
by Sards
assfly wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:08 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:02 am Green is such a talent.
I rememeber him being ok for the Lions but not much more. Never thought I'd see him putting in cup final-winning performances like he has done recently. Small guy, big heart.
I rate him highly. He has a huge heart and loads of skill and reads the game properly. Not just following your instincts. He went abroad because he was going nowhere in South Africa.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:23 am
by Sards
Chilli wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:50 am
assfly wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 6:24 am What a game.

Hard to understate how much those four Saffers have improved at Quins. I know they're all out of the Bok picture, but they have all had outstanding seasons. With a surname like Green, I wouldn't be surprised if he gets called up by England or someone else due to a distant British relative. Louw must be one of the best tightheads in Europe. Take away AE's two red cards and he's easily the best 12 in the premiership. And Lewies will do down as a premiership winning captain.

Just shows what proper coaching and management can do.

AE is combining his brute strength 💪 (Hi Sards) with some skill that he never showed when playing for $harks.

Lewies is such an improved player.

It goes to show how crap our set up in South Africa is.
Our set up is a real concern.
Without having played the Kiwis we have absolutely no clue where we stand

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:44 am
by FalseBayFC
assfly wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:09 am Also a shoutout to Jason Jenkins. Great game (and season) from him, his pass to put Hogg away in the final 10 was class.
Forgot about him. We have a ridiculous conveyor belt of top locks in this country. Probably has something to do with the headboy marrying the Netball captain at Afrikaans schools.
I had coffee at Neelsie, the refectory at Stellenbosch University, with my daughter the other day. The size of these kids is crazy. The girls are huge too.

Don Armand also from these parts. Zimbabwean who went to Maritzburg College. Dave Ewers also a Zimbo.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:46 am
by assfly
FalseBayFC wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:44 am Don Armand also from these parts. Zimbabwean who went to Maritzburg College. Dave Ewers also a Zimbo.
Correct. Pity they never got to wear the green and white hoops. Quite a few Saffas and Zimbos playing in the Championship too.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:47 am
by SaintK
assfly wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 7:09 am Also a shoutout to Jason Jenkins. Great game (and season) from him, his pass to put Hogg away in the final 10 was class.
Who? Don't recognise that name as playing for Exeter

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:51 am
by assfly
SaintK wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:47 am Who? Don't recognise that name as playing for Exeter
My bad. Meant to say Jannes Kirsten.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:52 am
by Lemoentjie
Green is not English qualified and will only get there on residency. Since Kolbe has already proved that you can have small wings in modern rugby, I think he can have a future with the Boks.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:01 am
by SaintK
Lemoentjie wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:52 am Green is not English qualified and will only get there on residency. Since Kolbe has already proved that you can have small wings in modern rugby, I think he can have a future with the Boks.
Ahh, thought it might be
He's had and excellent season for Exeter even though he missed a few matches with injury
So did Jaques Vemeulen though he missed the final due to injury

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:09 am
by OomStruisbaai
SaintK wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:01 am
Lemoentjie wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 10:52 am Green is not English qualified and will only get there on residency. Since Kolbe has already proved that you can have small wings in modern rugby, I think he can have a future with the Boks.
Ahh, thought it might be
He's had and excellent season for Exeter even though he missed a few matches with injury
So did Jaques Vemeulen though he missed the final due to injury
Was looking for Jacques. Big talent.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:12 am
by assfly
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:09 am Was looking for Jacques. Big talent.
He was a great buy for Exeter. Incredibly hardworking, a workhorse that every championship team needs. Another example of an incredibly talented Saffer that is nowhere near the Bok picture.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:14 am
by OomStruisbaai
assfly wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:12 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:09 am Was looking for Jacques. Big talent.
He was a great buy for Exeter. Incredibly hardworking, a workhorse that every championship team needs. Another example of an incredibly talented Saffer that is nowhere near the Bok picture.
Pretty sure he ll get there. Comes from a poor background and a humble person. They always get to the top.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:18 am
by SaintK
assfly wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:12 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Jun 27, 2021 11:09 am Was looking for Jacques. Big talent.
He was a great buy for Exeter. Incredibly hardworking, a workhorse that every championship team needs. Another example of an incredibly talented Saffer that is nowhere near the Bok picture.
Yep! He and Ewers together in the backrow are a huge engines. With the speedy Simmonds in between them at 8 it all works very well

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:00 pm
by Margin__Walker
Bernard Janse van Rensburg has signed for London Irish.

Any good? Looks handy in a highlights video, but then, doesn't everyone.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:18 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Margin__Walker wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:00 pm Bernard Janse van Rensburg has signed for London Irish.

Any good? Looks handy in a highlights video, but then, doesn't everyone.
The Sharks poach all the quality Cheetah players. The rest are either young just out of Varsity Cup or has beens from Japan/UK/France players.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:42 pm
by assfly
Margin__Walker wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:00 pm Bernard Janse van Rensburg has signed for London Irish.

Any good? Looks handy in a highlights video, but then, doesn't everyone.
He always looked destined for higher honours, but never quite made it in SA.

He's a good signing, with the right coaching and management he'll thrive at London Irish.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:34 pm
by Sards
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:18 pm
Margin__Walker wrote: Mon Jun 28, 2021 12:00 pm Bernard Janse van Rensburg has signed for London Irish.

Any good? Looks handy in a highlights video, but then, doesn't everyone.
The Sharks poach all the quality Cheetah players. The rest are either young just out of Varsity Cup or has beens from Japan/UK/France players.
I think the word you were looking for is pay.....not poach

As in....The Sharks pay all the quality Cheetahs players......that play for them.

I understand it's a difficult concept to wrap your mind around when you are a Namaqualander that grew up on the weekly bottle of wine for your labor

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 3:37 pm
by Sards
With vaccinations happening at a snails pace...if I were a half decent player I would go ASAP

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Mon Jun 28, 2021 4:17 pm
by Margin__Walker
Cheers guys. Certainly looks like a useful guy to have around the squad. We'll see how he gets on.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:05 am
by JM2K6
On Tyrone Green it's been really obvious in the last few matches that he's worked on fighting through the tackle. He got bullied a bit by Nadolo and company against Tigers, but since then he's been almost impossible to stop for the first man and frequently just bullied his own way through multiple bigger men. I was really worried he'd be another Tim Swiel type - i.e. the "utility" back who's not good enough for any one particular position - but his attitude is phenomenal.

He misses a lot of tackles but you can never doubt his commitment.

Lewies I think wasn't quite at his top standard and I don't think he was fully fit, but he did enough.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:09 am
by assfly
JM2K6 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:05 am Lewies I think wasn't quite at his top standard and I don't think he was fully fit, but he did enough.
He seemed to struggle a lot with injury this season.

Very happy for him. When he left SA I never would have put him down as a premiership winning captain.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:13 am
by JM2K6
assfly wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:09 am
JM2K6 wrote: Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:05 am Lewies I think wasn't quite at his top standard and I don't think he was fully fit, but he did enough.
He seemed to struggle a lot with injury this season.

Very happy for him. When he left SA I never would have put him down as a premiership winning captain.
Yeah we didn't know what to expect, but at times he's been a big damn hero for Quins, some all-action displays. Hopefully he can stay fit - being captain for the Gustard times must have been a real drain and it sounds like the players were getting flogged in training, too. We've moved to a much less insane training regime so hopefully more players can stay fit for longer.

Surprised Oom thought the Quins scrum was going backwards, it was a real weapon against Exeter! Louw is phenomenal and a former international tighthead told me just how insane he thought that try was :lol: We've had some pretty mediocre signings over the years, and have had little luck from SA (Andre Vos aside) so I'm glad these guys have worked out so well. Good on them for really buying into Quins 2.0 too.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2021 11:17 am
by assfly
Louw is a total freak. Wiki has him down as 126kg but he looks closer to 140.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 9:19 pm
by OomStruisbaai

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 10:51 pm
by sunnybanana
AE is miles ahead of Frans these days and should be in the Bok squad. Wilco is a ridiculous omission too.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Fri Jul 02, 2021 11:04 pm
by Tichtheid
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 9:19 pm
As an Edinburgh fan I was disappointed that he left to go Worcester, I thought we'd done right by him in taking him on after he failed his medical and got him fixed up and back on the field. As far as I can gather that was down to the Edinburgh coach Richard Cockerill.

He is a destructive runner and is a huge talent, and of course I wish him well, but there is just a little bit of a sour taste, Edinburgh made him a good offer to stay and I would understand if he had gone to one of the powerhouses of European rugby, but no, he went to a side that has escaped relegation by dint of there not being any this year and probably not next year too.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:33 am
by OomStruisbaai
The school photo of him in his Kwagga (Outeniqua HS) jersey was against Paarl Gym in George. I walk the line in that one. He scored a fantastic try and the Kwaggas beat Paarl Gym for the first time. That's where I spot his and Warrick Gelant talent and knew they will be special in the future.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:36 am
by OomStruisbaai
sunnybanana wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 10:51 pm AE is miles ahead of Frans these days and should be in the Bok squad. Wilco is a ridiculous omission too.
Frans struggle all season for the Cheetahs. He is only there for history and his experience. AE was fantastic in the final.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:50 am
by Chilli
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Jul 03, 2021 5:36 am
sunnybanana wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 10:51 pm AE is miles ahead of Frans these days and should be in the Bok squad. Wilco is a ridiculous omission too.
Frans struggle all season for the Cheetahs. He is only there for history and his experience. AE was fantastic in the final.
Sards in 5.4.3.

Re: Saffers Playing Abroad Thread

Posted: Sat Jul 03, 2021 6:07 am
by Chilli
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jul 02, 2021 9:19 pm
He doesn't sound very Scottish to me.