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Turbster wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:40 am

Turbster wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 11:26 am

Mr Bungle wrote: ↑Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:43 am

There's your "10 years" timeframe again. We won the shield less than 10 years ago. We've been shithouse for 3-4 seasons.

Only the most one-eyed would say it's not been a miserable last ten years, and even winning the shield twice (I think) during that time didn't paper over the cracks. Southland, and I hate to say it, has been used alternately as a doormat, and a nursery by the bigger unions actually ever since the game went pro, but I'll not whinge about it. As I tried to get across in what I wrote, and obviously missed my target, the best thing was seeing the backs 'with the confidence to run' late in the game... and that is something that only comes with belief.

And anyway... why are we bitching at each other? We're both on the same side aren't we?

I’m not bitching. It’s just that 2008-2012 was the greatest Stags era in my 40+ years on the planet. A golden generation of home grown talent regularly beating the big boys. Even in 2013 & 14 we were knocking over Canterbury / Waikato and still making semi finals. 2015 the rot set in and we seemed to really struggle elevating home grown players into genuine NPC quality. The money dried up too

Wasn't able to watch the Canterbury vs HB match live, but recorded it and was going to watch it this morning. That idea was scuppered when I heard the result. As all Canterbury fans have pointed out, this year's squad is relatively weak, and we won't be in the picture to challenge for the title we find a decent no.10 to replace Mo'unga. This squad was weak even when it's All Blacks were included, but without them it's a mid to lower table team. We will just need to comfort ourselves over summer with our Super Rugby title four-peat.

Taranaki's first Shield defence kicks off at 2:05pm.

Taranaki:

1-Jared Proffit, 2-Bradley Slater, 3-Reuben O'Neill, 4-Josh Lord, 5-Tupou Vaa'i, 6-Mitchell Crosswell, 7-Lachlan Boshier, 8-Kaylum Boshier, 9-Lisati Milo-Harris, 10-Jayson Potroz, 11-Lewis Ormand, 12-Tei Walden, 13-Sean Wainui, 14-Jacob Raumaitayuki-Kneepkens, 15-Stephen Perofeta

Reserves: 16-Ricky Riccitelli, 17-Chris Gawler, 18-Donald Brighouse, 19-Findlamor Hoeata, 20-Tom Florence, 21-Kylem O'Donnell, 22-Daniel Waite, 23-Brayton Northcott-Hill

Otago:

1-George Bower, 2-:Liam Coltman, 3-Josh Hohneck, 4-Jack Regan, 5-Will Tucker, 6-Charles Eaton, 7-Slade McDowall, 8-Dylan Nel, 9-Kayne Hammngton, 10-Josh Ioane, 11-Jona Nareki, 12-Aleki Morris-Lome, 13-Michael Collins, 14-Freedom Vahaakolo, 15-Vilimoni Koroi

Reserves: 16-Ricky Jackson, 17-Jonah Aoina, 18-Yoshihisa Sasagi, 19-Josh Hill, 20-Nasi Manu, 21-James Ascott, 22-Josh Timu, 23-Mitchell Scott


Good to see Perofeta back after such a long absence.

Looking forward to watching Tupou Vaa'i play as well. He's in great nick.

I really am bemused by this playing two games at the same time, Shirley there’s a way around it

15-5 to Otago after 35 minutes. Could we be looking at a zero defence tenure?

Jb1981 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:47 am 15-5 to Otago after 35 minutes. Could we be looking at a zero defence tenure?

20-5 now with a kick to come

22-5.

Looking like a long road back for the Naki

That's a good lead for Otago, but Taranaki has the wind in the second half. Expecting the final score to be much closer.

Anyone know the Auckland v Manawatu HT score?

Gumboot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:55 am Anyone know the Auckland v Manawatu HT score?

26-5 to Auckland mate

I use an app called Tribe to track sports online. It’s bloody good... you just subscribe to the comp you want to follow and it adds tabs to the home screen linking straight to live update feeds.

22-5 Otago lead Taranaki. Man I hope Taranaki lose this. Weather looks really shit.

WTF? x 2
Firstly, the score and secondly, Daylight Saving caught me napping...kinda glad I missed the 1st half, by the looks of things...

Shanky’s mate wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:01 am

Gumboot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:55 am Anyone know the Auckland v Manawatu HT score?

26-5 to Auckland mate

31 - 5 now

I reckon if Otago score a try now, that is pretty much the game.

Josh Ioane slips through the defense and scores close to the posts.

Kiwias wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:24 am I reckon if Otago score a try now, that is pretty much the game.

Yep, that should do it.

That should do it barring a miracle comeback.

Hah - Waikato still have the record for the shortest tenure 2009 (jointly with Wellington in 1963)

7 days

Kiwias wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:22 am

Shanky’s mate wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:01 am

Gumboot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 1:55 am Anyone know the Auckland v Manawatu HT score?

26-5 to Auckland mate

31 - 5 now

Auckland pouring it on now and it is 50 - 5 with 3 mins to go.

Enzedder wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:45 am Hah - Waikato still have the record for the shortest tenure 2009 (jointly with Wellington in 1963)

7 days

I think they flashed up that Hawkes Bay had the record with a six day reign earlier.

Anyway, congratulations Otago for a deserved win.

Well, that was disappointing...

Well done, Otago. So the Magpies get the first challenge in Dunedin next Sunday.

Taranaki Snapper wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:51 am Well, that was disappointing...

The effort needed last week seems to have had an impact. Your lads were sort of sluggish for the first half.

Kiwias wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:32 am

Taranaki Snapper wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:51 am Well, that was disappointing...

The effort needed last week seems to have had an impact. Your lads were sort of sluggish for the first half.

Otago showed how to handle Lachlan Boshier, It's not rocket science, get lots of numbers to the breakdown.

Carter's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:33 am

Kiwias wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:32 am

Taranaki Snapper wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:51 am Well, that was disappointing...

The effort needed last week seems to have had an impact. Your lads were sort of sluggish for the first half.

Otago showed how to handle Lachlan Boshier, It's not rocket science, get lots of numbers to the breakdown.

Yes, you hardly heard his name throughout the game. Such a change from a week ago.

Jb1981 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:51 am

Enzedder wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:45 am Hah - Waikato still have the record for the shortest tenure 2009 (jointly with Wellington in 1963)

7 days

I think they flashed up that Hawkes Bay had the record with a six day reign earlier.

Anyway, congratulations Otago for a deserved win.

Oh shit - when did that happen? (I even Googled to check)

Kiwias wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:54 am

Carter's Choice wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:33 am

Kiwias wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 3:32 am

The effort needed last week seems to have had an impact. Your lads were sort of sluggish for the first half.

Otago showed how to handle Lachlan Boshier, It's not rocket science, get lots of numbers to the breakdown.

Yes, you hardly heard his name throughout the game. Such a change from a week ago.

To be fair, he was probably still half drunk after last weekend's heroics.

Enzedder wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:00 am

Jb1981 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:51 am

Enzedder wrote: ↑Sun Sep 27, 2020 2:45 am Hah - Waikato still have the record for the shortest tenure 2009 (jointly with Wellington in 1963)

7 days

I think they flashed up that Hawkes Bay had the record with a six day reign earlier.

Anyway, congratulations Otago for a deserved win.

Oh shit - when did that happen? (I even Googled to check)

2013. They took it off Otago to hold the shield for the first time in 44 years and then lost it to Counties six days later.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/a ... d=11121291

Useless barstewards

BAY OF PLENTY v AUCKLAND
7pm Friday, October 2
Rotorua International Stadium

Bay of Plenty: 1-Tevita Mafileo, 2-Nathan Vella, 3-Jeff Thwaites, 4-Kane Le'aupepe, 5-Aaron Carroll (c), 6-Zane Kapeli, 7-Mitch Karpik, 8-Joe Tupe, 9-Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi, 10-Otere Black-11-Chase Tiatia, 12-Scott Curry, 13-Regan Ware, 14-Emoni Narawa, 15-Kalen Trask

Reserves: 16-Nic Souchon, 17-Jordan Lay, 18-Ross Geldenhuys, 19-Keepa Mewett, 20-Joe Johnson, 21-Leroy Carter, 22-Mathew Skipwith-Garland, 23-Joe Webber


Auckland: 1-Jarred Adams, 2-Leni Apisai, 3-Angus Ta'aavao, 4-Scott Scrafton, 5-Jack Whetton, 6-Adrian Choat, 7-Blake Gibson, 8-Waimana Reidlinger-Kapa, 9-Taufa Funaki, 10-Simon Hickey, 11-Salesi Rayasi, 12-TJ Faiane, 13-Tumua Manu, 14-AJ Lam, 15-Jordan Trainor

Reserves: 16-Mike Sosene-Feagai, 17-Marcel Renata, 18-James Lay, 19-Hamish Dalzell, 20-Sione Tuipulotu, 21-Jonathan Ruru, 22-Harry Plummer, 23-Zarn Sullivan

An interesting game, normally I'd expect Auckland to romp it (and have tipped accordingly) but BOP have some quality players there notably OB at 10 ... should be a good game to watch.

Teams for tomorrow

Canterbury: Josh McKay, Chay Fihaki, Ngane Punivai, Rameka Poihipi, Manasa Mataele, Fergus Burke, Mitchell Drummond, Tom Sanders, Tom Christie, Reed Prinsep (captain), Mitchell Dunshea, Luke Romano, Oli Jager, Shilo Klein, Finlay Brewis. Reserves: Scott Mellow, Fletcher Newell, Tamaiti Williams, Sam Darry, Billy Harmon, Ere Enari, Brett Cameron, Isaiah Punivai.

Wellington: Billy Proctor, Wes Goosen, Peter Umaga-Jensen, Vince Aso, Julian Savea, Jackson Garden-Bachop, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, Teariki Ben-Nicholas, Du’Plessis Kirifi (captain), Vaea Fifita, Naitoa Ah Kuoi, James Blackwell, Alex Fidow, James O’Reilly, Xavier Numia. Reserves: Tyrone Thompson, Ben Aumua-Peseta, Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe, Caleb Delany, Mateaki Kafatolu, Connor Collins, Trent Renata, Pepesana Patafilo.

Big news is Fergus Burke starting. He couldn't possibly be worse than Cameron so I'm all for it.

Wignu wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 5:57 am An interesting game, normally I'd expect Auckland to romp it (and have tipped accordingly) but BOP have some quality players there notably OB at 10 ... should be a good game to watch.

Yeah, the bigger Aucklanders will grind them down I feel. (Just as Riasi scores)

52 minutes gone and BOP score a great reactive try

17 to 16

BOP not even pretending to get onside but the ref doesn’t seem to give a shit, carry on.

BOP put in a sterling effort in the last 10mins but end up short.

mrbrownstone wrote: ↑Fri Oct 02, 2020 6:06 am Teams for tomorrow

Canterbury: Josh McKay, Chay Fihaki, Ngane Punivai, Rameka Poihipi, Manasa Mataele, Fergus Burke, Mitchell Drummond, Tom Sanders, Tom Christie, Reed Prinsep (captain), Mitchell Dunshea, Luke Romano, Oli Jager, Shilo Klein, Finlay Brewis. Reserves: Scott Mellow, Fletcher Newell, Tamaiti Williams, Sam Darry, Billy Harmon, Ere Enari, Brett Cameron, Isaiah Punivai.

Wellington: Billy Proctor, Wes Goosen, Peter Umaga-Jensen, Vince Aso, Julian Savea, Jackson Garden-Bachop, Kemara Hauiti-Parapara, Teariki Ben-Nicholas, Du’Plessis Kirifi (captain), Vaea Fifita, Naitoa Ah Kuoi, James Blackwell, Alex Fidow, James O’Reilly, Xavier Numia. Reserves: Tyrone Thompson, Ben Aumua-Peseta, Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe, Caleb Delany, Mateaki Kafatolu, Connor Collins, Trent Renata, Pepesana Patafilo.

Big news is Fergus Burke starting. He couldn't possibly be worse than Cameron so I'm all for it.

Tasman may be the final frontier but it's made in a Crusaders basement...

In creating Dr Victor Frankenstein's Tasman, have the Crusaders spread Canterbury too thin? I suspect so.

That backline is Eh? for eh-verage, and I don't think the pack is enough to make up for it anymore.

Wellington will be razz a matazz in the backline and may finally win enough pill to show it off.

The Lions by 10.

BTW...as night follows day, the thick Canterbury coaches will take Mitchell Drummond off 20 minutes too early and the replacement halfback will be shithouse.