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Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:37 pm
by Uncle fester
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:34 pm The Boks will roll this two.
How did that go last autumn?

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:40 pm
by myselfandmydog
Grandpa wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:33 pm
myselfandmydog wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:31 pm Thanks I dont feel like such a dope now! I got a new modem and thought I was doing something stupid.
Are you the same username on PR? Or did you register there before the dog came along?
Yep same name on PR, to be honest I thought I already registerd here. Was this forum set up by Hong Kong when PR went into meltdown a few years back

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:42 pm
by Grandpa
myselfandmydog wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:40 pm
Grandpa wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:33 pm
myselfandmydog wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:31 pm Thanks I dont feel like such a dope now! I got a new modem and thought I was doing something stupid.
Are you the same username on PR? Or did you register there before the dog came along?
Yep same name on PR, to be honest I thought I already registerd here. Was this forum set up by Hong Kong when PR went into meltdown a few years back
I thought ASMO set this up 2 or 3 years ago... during the unstable PR period...

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:42 pm
by Uncle fester
ASMO

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:08 pm
by Gav
EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:36 pm
ZappaMan wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:23 pm Good decision, I feel.
Exactly. They have paused it just as his foot whispers in the glasses ear 'I love you'
'But I can never be with you'

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:56 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Uncle fester wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:37 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:34 pm The Boks will roll this two.
How did that go last autumn?
The ref was kak. :oops:

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:56 pm
by TheFrog
Some stats that speak for themselves:

Tackles
France 271
Ireland 186

Doris: 115m gained
Penaud: 134m gained

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:11 pm
by Mr Bungle
TheFrog wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:56 pm Some stats that speak for themselves:

Tackles
France 271
Ireland 186

Doris: 115m gained
Penaud: 134m gained
France missed 25 odd tackles, so nearly 10%. I only caught the last 25 mins and the intensity must have dropped off the way the first half was written up. Good to see defence was optional at times, must give you NH types a nice Supe feel. :wink:

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:22 pm
by Hank the DJ
That was some.game of rugby, Ireland v Dupont is just about fair..

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:28 pm
by quarter2four
TheFrog wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:56 pm Some stats that speak for themselves:

Tackles
France 271
Ireland 186

Doris: 115m gained
Penaud: 134m gained
Doris is a machine. Some turn around from the old days when Ireland would blow themselves out after 60 mins, now we are the fittest.

Happy to see our scrum hold up against the behemots. Still a worry. Bealham has become a great all round TH.

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:31 pm
by Sandstorm
bogbunny wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:36 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:34 pm The Boks will roll this two.
:crazy: No Way Jose

Boks 2nd tier these days, lacking the top 2 inches.
These days? Boks have never been smart.

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:40 pm
by happytramp
quarter2four wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:28 pm
TheFrog wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:56 pm Some stats that speak for themselves:

Tackles
France 271
Ireland 186

Doris: 115m gained
Penaud: 134m gained
Doris is a machine. Some turn around from the old days when Ireland would blow themselves out after 60 mins, now we are the fittest.

Happy to see our scrum hold up against the behemots. Still a worry. Bealham has become a great all round TH.
70min in Doris was playing like he'd just stepped onto the pitch.

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:03 pm
by Hellraiser
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:34 pm The Boks will roll this two.
They lost to both teams in November.....

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:05 pm
by Hellraiser
quarter2four wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 9:28 pm
TheFrog wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 8:56 pm Some stats that speak for themselves:

Tackles
France 271
Ireland 186

Doris: 115m gained
Penaud: 134m gained
Doris is a machine. Some turn around from the old days when Ireland would blow themselves out after 60 mins, now we are the fittest.

Happy to see our scrum hold up against the behemots. Still a worry. Bealham has become a great all round TH.
Bealham has been a very good player for years. He's just had to live in Furlongs shadow.

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:08 pm
by Jambanja
Hellraiser wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:03 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:34 pm The Boks will roll this two.
They lost to both teams in November.....
5D chess

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:46 pm
by lemonhead
Jambanja wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:08 pm
Hellraiser wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:03 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:34 pm The Boks will roll this two.
They lost to both teams in November.....
5D chess
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All your refs are belong to u$

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:01 pm
by Quade
France have peaked and are on the way down. Lucky not to have had another 20 put on them.

Ireland and NZ favourites for the RWC now. Saffas and France may spring some suprises, but I suspect not.

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:06 pm
by Gav
myselfandmydog wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:26 pm Hi lads, delighted I remembered this place! Can somebody help - is the PR forum down? I am only seeing posts from the 9th of Feb
Software update gone bad it seems.

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:21 pm
by PornDog
Hellraiser wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:05 pm
Bealham has been a very good player for years. He's just had to live in Furlongs shadow.
Yep - Gas listening to people rave about his handling with a "who knew" type shrug! Eh anyone that's ever watched him play! While he's not Furlong, he's a damn fine player and one aspect where I knew there wouldn't be any fall off at all would be with his hands.

Having said that, I was a bit anxious about his scrummaging against the very best sides, but he was solid as today.

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:25 pm
by redderneck
EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:22 pm Looking back at the match now and the Lowe decision is understandable but the red is fucking mental. Its because Wayne says immediately as its happens 'it's fine for me'. He then finds his way back to those initial words
That's a diplomatic way of putting it. Barnes' initial comment put him in a hole he had no interst in drawing anyone's attention to. He was vested. The initial call was a poor one, but his subsequent handling of it deserves to see him stood down. End of.

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:27 pm
by CM11
PornDog wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:21 pm
Hellraiser wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:05 pm
Bealham has been a very good player for years. He's just had to live in Furlongs shadow.
Yep - Gas listening to people rave about his handling with a "who knew" type shrug! Eh anyone that's ever watched him play! While he's not Furlong, he's a damn fine player and one aspect where I knew there wouldn't be any fall off at all would be with his hands.

Having said that, I was a bit anxious about his scrummaging against the very best sides, but he was solid as today.
It's not about whether he has good hands or not but whether he could get his timing right at the highest level, a level he doesn't often play at with today being the biggest test of his career. Which he passed with flying colours.

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:38 pm
by Turbiner
CM11 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:27 pm
PornDog wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:21 pm
Hellraiser wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 10:05 pm
Bealham has been a very good player for years. He's just had to live in Furlongs shadow.
Yep - Gas listening to people rave about his handling with a "who knew" type shrug! Eh anyone that's ever watched him play! While he's not Furlong, he's a damn fine player and one aspect where I knew there wouldn't be any fall off at all would be with his hands.

Having said that, I was a bit anxious about his scrummaging against the very best sides, but he was solid as today.
It's not about whether he has good hands or not but whether he could get his timing right at the highest level, a level he doesn't often play at with today being the biggest test of his career. Which he passed with flying colours.
Yep you'd never of known from any of his past 30 international caps. There's a reason he's been in the 18 shirt for the past 3 seasons. The only reason he's not in the 3 shirt is Furlong.

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:40 pm
by Ted.
Grandpa wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:16 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:04 pm
CM11 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 4:48 pm

👍

Just need to figure out who to blame now. That looks damming.
Does it? His foot certainly touched the grass after he grounded the ball, which we can’t see in that gif
Touching the grass after the grounding was way later on. And no where near the touch line... the ball was a foot in the air before being grounded at the point he touched the ground...

Obvious from that. A poor decision but perhaps poor direction from the TV.

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:40 pm
by bessantj
Great win for Ireland, France are no mugs.

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:43 pm
by CM11
Turbiner wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:38 pm
CM11 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:27 pm
PornDog wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:21 pm

Yep - Gas listening to people rave about his handling with a "who knew" type shrug! Eh anyone that's ever watched him play! While he's not Furlong, he's a damn fine player and one aspect where I knew there wouldn't be any fall off at all would be with his hands.

Having said that, I was a bit anxious about his scrummaging against the very best sides, but he was solid as today.
It's not about whether he has good hands or not but whether he could get his timing right at the highest level, a level he doesn't often play at with today being the biggest test of his career. Which he passed with flying colours.
Yep you'd never of known from any of his past 30 international caps. There's a reason he's been in the 18 shirt for the past 3 seasons. The only reason he's not in the 3 shirt is Furlong.
Big difference between starting and bench and even including from the bench that's the best he's played for Ireland today.

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:44 pm
by CM11
Ted. wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:40 pm
Grandpa wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:16 pm
Duff Paddy wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:04 pm
Does it? His foot certainly touched the grass after he grounded the ball, which we can’t see in that gif
Touching the grass after the grounding was way later on. And no where near the touch line... the ball was a foot in the air before being grounded at the point he touched the ground...

Obvious from that. A poor decision but perhaps poor direction from the TV.
As I posted earlier, the six nations run the broadcast. Nothing to do with local TV director.

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:01 am
by Ted.
CM11 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:44 pm
Ted. wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:40 pm
Grandpa wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:16 pm

Touching the grass after the grounding was way later on. And no where near the touch line... the ball was a foot in the air before being grounded at the point he touched the ground...

Obvious from that. A poor decision but perhaps poor direction from the TV.
As I posted earlier, the six nations run the broadcast. Nothing to do with local TV director.
Didn't say it was local. :thumbup:

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:06 am
by Hank the DJ
Grandpa wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:20 pm Makes you wonder why they didn't show this angle at the time?

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Because it was after he placed the ball down.

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:15 am
by Grandpa
Hank the DJ wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:06 am
Grandpa wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:20 pm Makes you wonder why they didn't show this angle at the time?

Image
Because it was after he placed the ball down.
The ball is a foot above the ground in that picture!

Also confirmed by video footage..

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:35 am
by fishfoodie
EnergiseR2 wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:48 pm It's also not obvious. I remember watching Finlay the night of the Chicago match and thinking lucky bastard being there for that. He keeps getting lucky
Which great golfer said, "the more I practice, the luckier I get !" ?

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:59 am
by Gav
Grandpa wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:15 am
Hank the DJ wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:06 am
Grandpa wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:20 pm Makes you wonder why they didn't show this angle at the time?

Image
Because it was after he placed the ball down.
The ball is a foot above the ground in that picture!

Also confirmed by video footage..
Call the UN then, I couldn't give a fuck

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 1:50 am
by Hank the DJ
Should have been down to 14 for the rest of the game anyway

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:59 am
by MrJonno
Grandpa wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:20 pm Makes you wonder why they didn't show this angle at the time?

Image
Good point, taken out in the air, red card and penalty try

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:53 am
by Gav
You still based in Burma?

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 4:14 am
by MrJonno
Gav wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 3:53 am You still based in Burma?
Yep, watched the match in a pub on my phone with a South African and a Swiss. I kept jumping up and shouting to the confusion of everyone else there

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:07 am
by TheFrog
Quade wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:01 pm France have peaked and are on the way down. Lucky not to have had another 20 put on them.

Ireland and NZ favourites for the RWC now. Saffas and France may spring some suprises, but I suspect not.
They haven't peaked. They are the youngest team among the Tier 1 teams. Ireland is just head and shoulders above other nations right now. And a number of French players are just toast because of Top14+Heineken Cup+international demand.

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 7:20 am
by youthleth
TheFrog wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 5:07 am
Quade wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 11:01 pm France have peaked and are on the way down. Lucky not to have had another 20 put on them.

Ireland and NZ favourites for the RWC now. Saffas and France may spring some suprises, but I suspect not.
They haven't peaked. They are the youngest team among the Tier 1 teams. Ireland is just head and shoulders above other nations right now. And a number of French players are just toast because of Top14+Heineken Cup+international demand.
Ireland also had a gentle warm up match, whilst France had to tough it out against the Italians. :razz:

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 7:25 am
by Duff Paddy
Grandpa wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:15 am
Hank the DJ wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:06 am
Grandpa wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:20 pm Makes you wonder why they didn't show this angle at the time?

Image
Because it was after he placed the ball down.
The ball is a foot above the ground in that picture!

Also confirmed by video footage..
It’s also a great angle of the no arms tackle. Penalty try.

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 7:27 am
by Duff Paddy
MrJonno wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 2:59 am
Grandpa wrote: Sat Feb 11, 2023 7:20 pm Makes you wonder why they didn't show this angle at the time?

Image
Good point, taken out in the air, red card and penalty try
Nah. Yellow card and penalty try. And considering sexton missed the conversion, you’d think they’d be happy that ireland only came away with 5 there.

Re: Ireland v France match thread

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:06 am
by Jim Lahey
Duff Paddy wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 7:25 am
Grandpa wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:15 am
Hank the DJ wrote: Sun Feb 12, 2023 12:06 am

Because it was after he placed the ball down.
The ball is a foot above the ground in that picture!

Also confirmed by video footage..
It’s also a great angle of the no arms tackle. Penalty try.
Had that argument with my old man.
Definitely no arm shoulder barge.

But theoretically Lowe is jumping into the tackle. Or is it stipulated that jumping into tackles is OK in the act of scoring a try? Obviously the entertainment value of those type of tries should trump silly rules if the infringement does not present a danger to opponent players.