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Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:15 pm
by Sards
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:05 pm The worst flanker in both tests was Kolisi.
Kolisi is the spiritual guardian of South African rugby.


His value is in his marketing.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:16 pm
by OomStruisbaai
boere wors wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:07 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:05 pm The worst flanker in both tests was Kolisi.
Back to his usual self. The three Lions tests were a total outlier
That's the problem. Coetzee was not far behind him. Both useless 6 flankers. Fourie had to play 8. Make no sense. At least Elrich Louw can play 6,7 and 8 get a second dig.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:29 pm
by boere wors
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:16 pm
boere wors wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:07 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:05 pm The worst flanker in both tests was Kolisi.
Back to his usual self. The three Lions tests were a total outlier
That's the problem. Coetzee was not far behind him. Both useless 6 flankers. Fourie had to play 8. Make no sense. At least Elrich Louw can play 6,7 and 8 get a second dig.
Agree, Coetzee failed to impress again. Great for Louw, he should be there to cover 7 and 8, while Kwagga covers 6 and hopefully only 6 ffs. Wouldnt mind Fourie there instead, has neen in outstanding form and is a proper 6.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:29 pm
by boere wors
Sards wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:15 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:05 pm The worst flanker in both tests was Kolisi.
Kolisi is the spiritual guardian of South African rugby.


His value is in his marketing.
:lol:

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:11 pm
by clive
Sards wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:16 am Bring it on this weekend Wales.....

Boks are going to give the Wesh a proper hiding.
Those bodies must be very sore after the bashing they took from our team this weekend.
Ive lost count how many times the worried SA fans are pre tests SA will win 3 nil SA will smash Wales, hasn't happened.
So fucking dumb are the SA, its squeaky bum time, they will be happy to scrape home by 1 point.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:14 pm
by clive
boere wors wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:45 am No surprises regarding the personell, only re who starts and who is on the bench.

Hope this time the boks click and it is not another tight affair
A worried SA fan.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:16 pm
by Sards
clive wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:11 pm
Sards wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:16 am Bring it on this weekend Wales.....

Boks are going to give the Wesh a proper hiding.
Those bodies must be very sore after the bashing they took from our team this weekend.
Ive lost count how many times the worried SA fans are pre tests SA will win 3 nil SA will smash Wales, hasn't happened.
So fucking dumb are the SA, its squeaky bum time, they will be happy to scrape home by 1 point.
Sadly it's not going to be pretty but it will be a win. For SA

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:29 pm
by boere wors
clive wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:14 pm
boere wors wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:45 am No surprises regarding the personell, only re who starts and who is on the bench.

Hope this time the boks click and it is not another tight affair
A worried SA fan.
Of course i am worried. We are playing shit. Wales is a strong side. Vokof.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 6:21 am
by Chilli
clive wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:11 pm
Sards wrote: Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:16 am Bring it on this weekend Wales.....

Boks are going to give the Wesh a proper hiding.
Those bodies must be very sore after the bashing they took from our team this weekend.
Ive lost count how many times the worried SA fans are pre tests SA will win 3 nil SA will smash Wales, hasn't happened.
So fucking dumb are the SA, its squeaky bum time, they will be happy to scrape home by 1 point.
So would Wales.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:37 am
by Sards
Boks to put 60 up

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 7:48 am
by Wilson's Toffee
Boks to win by 2.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:10 am
by C69
Biggar and Lewis not fit but are still picked to give them a bit of game time to seeif they can last.
Hopefully Lewis can stay on for as long as possible.

Boks by a lot

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:36 am
by GogLais
C69 wrote: Thu Jul 14, 2022 11:10 am Biggar and Lewis not fit but are still picked to give them a bit of game time to seeif they can last.
Hopefully Lewis can stay on for as long as possible.

Boks by a lot
I trust the medics know what they’re doing.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 6:37 am
by OomStruisbaai
The Bok coaches treat this test like a WC final. If they fail its obvious they'll need to rethink their approach to next year.
1. Will they chuck the boredom gameplan?
2. Will they replace the players?

If they can't beat Wales at home, we are in deep shite.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:39 am
by Sards
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 6:37 am The Bok coaches treat this test like a WC final. If they fail its obvious they'll need to rethink their approach to next year.
1. Will they chuck the boredom gameplan?
2. Will they replace the players?

If they can't beat Wales at home, we are in deep shite.
Don't be silly. If a side that barely had time to play together can hold them to 1 point the side that has been consistently together will smash them . Especially after that battering the Welsh took

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:57 am
by OomStruisbaai
Sards wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:39 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 6:37 am The Bok coaches treat this test like a WC final. If they fail its obvious they'll need to rethink their approach to next year.
1. Will they chuck the boredom gameplan?
2. Will they replace the players?

If they can't beat Wales at home, we are in deep shite.
Don't be silly. If a side that barely had time to play together can hold them to 1 point the side that has been consistently together will smash them . Especially after that battering the Welsh took
Kiss of death again?

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:58 am
by _Os_
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 6:37 am The Bok coaches treat this test like a WC final. If they fail its obvious they'll need to rethink their approach to next year.
1. Will they chuck the boredom gameplan?
2. Will they replace the players?

If they can't beat Wales at home, we are in deep shite.
Ja, if the Boks fail to win this one there'll be a big rethink. Only the wheels coming off makes the Springboks change.

They should've already adapted their game plan for Wales a bit, because Wales have a good defencive lineout/maul. But the game plan still won the first test, so it'll be the same again.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 11:40 am
by _Os_
_Os_ wrote: Sun Jul 10, 2022 8:56 am The Boks clearly tried to run more and put it through the hands in the 2nd test. They worked themselves into good field positions, but a lot of it was lateral and they couldn't capitalise and get over the line. It wasn't kick/lineout/maul.

Backline tries are made at 9/10/12, it's too late once the ball is in the wide channels if there's no space. The outside backs often had nothing to work with. Hendrikse/Pollard/Esterhuizen all basically play the same way, their strength isn't about creating space for those around them, it's about individually doing something. Maybe not an entirely fair statement, Hendrikse can hardly be expected to think phases ahead like Du Preez, Pollard has added quite a bit to his game since he first turned up but his instinct is still to not use his backline (when he first appeared he ran himself a lot), Esterhuizen can create for players outside him with his offloads but that's not structured play and there's a element of luck to it (if the opposition defence is strong he won't get much returns). Basically in a 9/10/12 like that, it all depends on the carrying at 10/12 and either their offloading or the 9 spreading it quickly, it seemed to me Esterhuizen wasn't being used enough and his best carries were after Pollard went off.

This is why Le Roux did so well in the 1st test coming off the bench, when he popped up at first receiver/closer in he made space for those around him. Part of his natural instinct has always been to make space for those around him. It basically makes him undroppable as we don't have many of those. Lambie was similar but concussion forced his retirement. Elton maybe, but you can't really have a 10 with a crumbly kicking game. Am maybe, but he's an outside back there's not much to work with by the time it gets to him.

Hendrikse/Pollard/Esterhuizen are all going to feature again. Pollard because he's the best 10 we've got. Hendrikse because he's similar to Herschel. Esterhuizen because he's similar to De Allende. If you're a coach you want players that are like for like and can be dropped into the side without having to change anything.
I'm ahead of Squidge Rugby.


Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 3:19 pm
by Sards
Read what Kolisi has to say.
Kolisi was satisfied with the team’s preparation after they arrived in Cape Town on Friday morning shortly before their captains run after training in Hermanus for the week and said they have been working hard to improve the areas of their game that let them down last week.

“The preparation has gone well. Wales are a tough team; they don’t stop playing for 80 minutes, but we are looking forward to this weekend,” said Kolisi.

“We looked at last week’s game and where they were strong, and we’ve been working on that and on improving our game.”

The Bok flanker and skipper was not intimidated by the fact that Saturday’s match essentially marked a final in the series: “We’ve been in these situations before and it builds character. The coaches want us to be in situations such as these, so this is nothing new for us.

“But I am sure Wales have been in these situations too. It is a great way to start a season like this because we can definitely build from it.”

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:05 pm
by Line6 HXFX
Line6 HXFX wrote: Wed May 25, 2022 2:42 pm Wales are great after crushing defeats and after their ego has been battered.

I expect a good close series, where this group of Welsh players come together and bond. Wales have experience, fitness, oh, and the entire western, English speaking world and Sky fucking sports replete with Stuart Barnes mocking them and on their case..you don't think Liam Williams , Dan Biggar, Alun Wyn, Gareth Davies, Josh Adams and even Cuthbert won't f'king cherish that?
Wales are as good as anyone in the backs. And half decent in the forwards..The world cup starts now.





....no I haven't been on the crack pipe.
Just quoting myself from page one. Highlighting the fact, once again I know my shite and am awesome at looking into and predicting the future, and just saying, it's tough man..giving out truths, in a sea of rugby unions obnoxious, rugby unions arrogant and rugby unions ignorant.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:24 pm
by OomStruisbaai
Saffers ( ja Nipper jy) gave me a lot of shite when I saw the red lights against Wales. They have experienced players who under performed with the BiLs and don't really care about the URC. To beat them tomorrow will be tough again.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 10:33 am
by Sards
OomStruisbaai wrote: Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:24 pm Saffers ( ja Nipper jy) gave me a lot of shite when I saw the red lights against Wales. They have experienced players who under performed with the BiLs and don't really care about the URC. To beat them tomorrow will be tough again.
Easy peasie

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:19 am
by FalseBayFC
I'm backing the Boks to win with something to spare. But we're going to battle to beat the ABs and Aus unless we start threatening the try line more regularly.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 12:05 pm
by C69
FalseBayFC wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:19 am I'm backing the Boks to win with something to spare. But we're going to battle to beat the ABs and Aus unless we start threatening the try line more regularly.
I don't think any Wales supporter hold up any hope.
We are held to get her by bandages as tape.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 12:22 pm
by FalseBayFC
C69 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 12:05 pm
FalseBayFC wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 11:19 am I'm backing the Boks to win with something to spare. But we're going to battle to beat the ABs and Aus unless we start threatening the try line more regularly.
I don't think any Wales supporter hold up any hope.
We are held to get her by bandages as tape.
Wales have been massive so far on this tour in the balls department. Lots to build on. The pack has stood up well and you'll need to start finding some depth in the backs to replace the old guard though.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 2:57 pm
by PCPhil
Right, Round 3

Btw, am I the only one who wants to see FAF thinning on top just because I bet he will never shorten the side length. Would be great.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:00 pm
by Cartman
boere wors wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:07 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Tue Jul 12, 2022 3:05 pm The worst flanker in both tests was Kolisi.
Back to his usual self. The three Lions tests were a total outlier
He's become a typical "baas"
Watch everyone else work, but takes the credit

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:02 pm
by C69
We are now so fucked, Faletau and Anscome out even before the start.
Now down to scraping the barrel

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:03 pm
by Cartman
C69 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:02 pm We are now so fucked, Faletau and Anscome out even before the start.
Now down to scraping the barrel
They not Welsh though so shouldn't be a problem :thumbup:

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:05 pm
by Torquemada 1420
C69 wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:02 pm We are now so fucked, Faletau and Anscome out even before the start.
Now down to scraping the barrel
Faletau out ends this as a contest.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:07 pm
by Lemoentjie
Best two anthems in world rugby :clap:

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:09 pm
by sockwithaticket
Lemoentjie wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:07 pm Best two anthems in world rugby :clap:
La Marseillaise is better than either.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:12 pm
by PCPhil
By the looks of the first few minutes yes, Wales are fvcked.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:12 pm
by Cartman
Rugby sex

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:13 pm
by Cartman
FFS

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:14 pm
by PCPhil
Shame Bigger recovered.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:15 pm
by Torquemada 1420
Lemoentjie wrote: Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:07 pm Best two anthems in world rugby :clap:
SA anthem is sh*te.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:19 pm
by Raggs
Probably was a try, just unfortunate really.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:26 pm
by PCPhil
Basically Wales can’t knock anything and if SA do then get the ball back in any way, shape or form faster than the speed of light. Or maybe put 9 in the scrum.

Re: Springbokke vs Wales

Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2022 3:26 pm
by Blake
No flair, just brute force.

Oh well, at least we finally score a try. Wales defended well for 15 mins. 9 out of 10 times there would have been a turnover by then.

Boks need to get creative.