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The Irish nullified our power game brilliantly. You could probably argue the legalities but the way they handled the scrum after the bomb squad come on was a masterstroke. We demolished them in the first few, but they adjusted their approach, and it turned in their favour.

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:14 pm "Consistent" example

Not offside = no advantage, no points (easy 3 in front of the posts that not even Mannie could miss)
Offside = advantage, 7 point score

A scrum has the ref and ARs focusing on the scrum, a ruck, especially on the line, has them looking at offside a lot more. Shall we find some examples of the boks on their line at a lineout/scrum and see if they're all dutifully on or behind the line? I suspect not.

Is that a screenshot from that godawful TAS youtuber? It's amazing how SA haven't lost a game without ref interference for years now.

There is nothing more depressing after a loss when the losers act like losers and blame the ref. Dik swak. Move on Boet, move on.

I thought the ref was very good. He let the game flow more then the average or should I say URC refs. To argue about shite is shite.

I thought the ref was excellent, especially considering the magniture of the game.

Sure he wasn't perfect and missed a few things, but he's a human and I don't think it favoured any side.

Also helped by two teams with excellent discipline.

Hope he get the WC final.




meaning.....

assfly wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:14 pm I thought the ref was excellent, especially considering the magniture of the game.

Sure he wasn't perfect and missed a few things, but he's a human and I don't think it favoured any side.

Apart from every 2nd scrum and maul, he was great!

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:29 pm

assfly wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:14 pm I thought the ref was excellent, especially considering the magniture of the game.

Sure he wasn't perfect and missed a few things, but he's a human and I don't think it favoured any side.

Apart from every 2nd scrum and maul, he was great!

the neck roll
'straight' lineout throws
'fair challenge'
Lowes deliberate knock forward
and self-collapsing mauls

but apart from that, he was great

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:29 pm

assfly wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:14 pm I thought the ref was excellent, especially considering the magniture of the game.

Sure he wasn't perfect and missed a few things, but he's a human and I don't think it favoured any side.

Apart from every 2nd scrum and maul, he was great!

Vok. Every Saffer is a ref whinger.

Sards wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 11:53 am

LoveOfTheGame wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 11:50 am I thought he did a very good job overall tbf.

Better than the forwards, DDA , Kriel , Faf, Kolbe......Please

I was talking about the ref jou parra!

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:57 pm

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:29 pm

assfly wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:14 pm I thought the ref was excellent, especially considering the magniture of the game.

Sure he wasn't perfect and missed a few things, but he's a human and I don't think it favoured any side.

Apart from every 2nd scrum and maul, he was great!

the neck roll
'straight' lineout throws
'fair challenge'
Lowes deliberate knock forward
and self-collapsing mauls

but apart from that, he was great

You have a history bitching about refs if memory serves. Not your most edifying trait.

LoveOfTheGame wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 2:03 pm

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:57 pm

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:29 pm
Apart from every 2nd scrum and maul, he was great!

the neck roll
'straight' lineout throws
'fair challenge'
Lowes deliberate knock forward
and self-collapsing mauls

but apart from that, he was great

You have a history bitching about refs if memory serves. Not your most edifying trait.

yes, always, I even became one and I don't care.

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 2:05 pm

LoveOfTheGame wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 2:03 pm

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 1:57 pm
the neck roll
'straight' lineout throws
'fair challenge'
Lowes deliberate knock forward
and self-collapsing mauls

but apart from that, he was great

You have a history bitching about refs if memory serves. Not your most edifying trait.

yes, always, I even became one and I don't care.

Yeah? Well you're a shit ref. Boooooooooooooooooo!

LoveOfTheGame wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 2:02 pm

Sards wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 11:53 am

LoveOfTheGame wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 11:50 am I thought he did a very good job overall tbf.

Better than the forwards, DDA , Kriel , Faf, Kolbe......Please

I was talking about the ref jou parra!

No we can't complain.

Sorry man. It's season. My phone just doesn't vokken stop. Get easily distracted. . Forget what we were talking about

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 12:14 pm "Consistent" example

Not offside = no advantage, no points (easy 3 in front of the posts that not even Mannie could miss)
Offside = advantage, 7 point score

Jesus - we were awarded 7 points because SA were offside? Even though its only a penalty offence? You indeed have a valid right to complain and are not a bat shit lunatic at all, cherry picking single incidents to suit your butt hurt pathetic narrative. Stop watching TAS Analytics you complete bell end.

If you want a bit of balance, the second scrum of the game where we were pinged for early engagement for the 2nd time - rewatch it, there was no early engagement, he called set, then they came together and then he blows his whistle!
Bundee's mad break, immediately after it Kriel was a mile offside and shut down the attack. Ne'er a blast o' the whistle from Bin!

It's a game of fucking rugby, it never has been and never should be, refereed using a magnifying glass!!!

Aren't you a ref yourself? You ought to be ashamed of yourself!

LoveOfTheGame wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 2:03 pm You have a history bitching about refs if memory serves. Not your most edifying trait.

Hands off Insane Homer! Roll away blue!

PornDog wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 6:49 pm
Jesus - we were awarded 7 points because SA were offside? Even though its only a penalty offence? You indeed have a valid right to complain and are not a bat shit lunatic at all

The freedom to throw long passes, expressive & higher risk attacking passes or speculative kicks under a penalty advantage makes the scoring of a try way more likely. If it fails, you can take 3 points or have another go.

SA should have been afforded the same opportunity for the offence.

In fairness to Bin, it should've been called by his AR

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 8:23 pm The freedom to throw long passes, expressive & higher risk attacking passes or speculative kicks under a penalty advantage makes the scoring of a try way more likely. If it fails, you can take 3 points or have another go.

SA should have been afforded the same opportunity for the offence.

In fairness to Bin, it should've been called by his AR

I know how the game works - you're the one struggling to understand it!!


You are a sad sack loser and the only consolation from just how pathetic you are is how quick your fellow Saffers are to call out your bullshit behaviour. Kudos to them.

In the heat of the moment I will forgive (and am guilty of) plenty of screaming obscenities at the TV, but to behave like this on calm reflection?
Rugby doesn't need people like you. You remind me of that fat sack of shit that stormed the field. These have been amongst the most childish, one eyed posts I've ever seen and that includes compared to the most idiotic provincial Irish shitfighting. Give yourself an uppercut!

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 8:54 pm Just read there that the big call at the end Bin actually got right. The maul had collapsed without foul play and the ball was not available immediately. Apparently other refs interpretation of immediate is usually very lenient. Every days a school day

I’d love to see whoever said that explain how Aki joined that maul legally just before it collapsed or how on earth someone could say the ball wasn’t immediately available when it collapsed. He was unsighted for both. Doesn’t make it the right call tho. It is what it is, ofc, but there’s no way he got it right.

PornDog wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 6:49 pm Bundee's mad break, immediately after it Kriel was a mile offside and shut down the attack. Ne'er a blast o' the whistle from Bin!

comfortably onside.

Agree on the second scrum, the early engage calls was bollocks.

PornDog wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 6:49 pm Bundee's mad break, immediately after it Kriel was a mile offside and shut down the attack. Ne'er a blast o' the whistle from Bin!

like this?

_Os_ wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 6:51 pm

LoveOfTheGame wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 2:03 pm You have a history bitching about refs if memory serves. Not your most edifying trait.

Hands off Insane Homer! Roll away blue!

Please don’t make me say that the Irish fans are better blokes, please

PornDog wrote: ↑Wed Sep 27, 2023 9:04 pm You remind me of that fat sack of shit that stormed the field. These have been amongst the most childish, one eyed posts I've ever seen and that includes compared to the most idiotic provincial Irish shitfighting. Give yourself an uppercut!

Not ROG or Sexton? Come to think of it, I don't recall Rassie having issues until after he spent some time coaching Munster

For the record, World Rugby law 15, Ruck

Offside at a ruck

Each team has an offside line that runs parallel to the goal line through the hindmost point of any ruck participant. If that point is on or behind the goal line, the offside line for that team is the goal line.

So I don't know what the white line running though the middle of the ruck is supposed to represent in the above pic.


On the picture of Kriel above, if you take your line parallel to the 22 and move it up to the hind most part of the SA ruck, I'm not sure Kriel was onside, it's marginal at best.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 7:46 am For the record, World Rugby law 15, Ruck

Offside at a ruck

Each team has an offside line that runs parallel to the goal line through the hindmost point of any ruck participant. If that point is on or behind the goal line, the offside line for that team is the goal line.

So I don't know what the white line running though the middle of the ruck is supposed to represent in the above pic.


On the picture of Kriel above, if you take your line parallel to the 22 and move it up to the hind most part of the SA ruck, I'm not sure Kriel was onside, it's marginal at best.

Its also a still image when JGP hasn't yet lifted the ball. He's always a good half yard or more in front of each of the other SA defenders though, having never gotten back onside.

Anyway, it wasn't my point to argue the unfairness of that particular incident, just that rugby games aren't refereed using a magnifying glass. I'm certainly not going to keep arguing with a stupid idiot, so I'll leave IH to wallow in his own madness!!

PornDog wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:30 am Its also a still image when JGP hasn't yet lifted the ball. He's always a good half yard or more in front of each of the other SA defenders though, having never gotten back onside.

He was onside, moments before this he was comfortably behind DDA. Your recollection is failing you miserably. give yourself an uppercut.

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:15 am Lads they are replaying the match. This is unprecedented

Can't believe some people are still discussing this meaningless Group game at week later.

Well this thread is going exactly as predicted . Bunch of Zombies.

Slick wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:20 am Well this thread is going exactly as predicted . Bunch of Zombies.

oh now you've done it - the shinner bots will be all over this place now!

PornDog wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:32 am

Slick wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:20 am Well this thread is going exactly as predicted . Bunch of Zombies.

oh now you've done it - the shinner bots will be all over this place now!

I've honestly got no idea what it's all about, just seen social media dominated by it.

Slick wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:33 am

PornDog wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:32 am

Slick wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:20 am Well this thread is going exactly as predicted . Bunch of Zombies.

oh now you've done it - the shinner bots will be all over this place now!

I've honestly got no idea what it's all about, just seen social media dominated by it.

The basic gist of it is that all of the rabid idiot sinn fein gobshites were pissed off that the red top republican Wolfe Tones song Celtic Symphony was so lambasted over the last year or so, that they have decided to hit back. They're claiming that Zombie is some anti-republican, pro-partitionist anthem and is all thoroughly anti-Irish and so shouldn't be representing the Irish team!!!!

They are bigger idiots than even IH and the fact they are getting all hot and bothered over this is delicious

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:47 am

PornDog wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:30 am Its also a still image when JGP hasn't yet lifted the ball. He's always a good half yard or more in front of each of the other SA defenders though, having never gotten back onside.

He was onside, moments before this he was comfortably behind DDA. Your recollection is failing you miserably. give yourself an uppercut.

Saw this on the other thread and thought it is very appropriate...

LoveOfTheGame wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:01 pm

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:47 am

PornDog wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:30 am Its also a still image when JGP hasn't yet lifted the ball. He's always a good half yard or more in front of each of the other SA defenders though, having never gotten back onside.

He was onside, moments before this he was comfortably behind DDA. Your recollection is failing you miserably. give yourself an uppercut.

Saw this on the other thread and thought it is very appropriate...

It used to be my avatar on PR for a long time

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:07 pm

LoveOfTheGame wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 12:01 pm

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Thu Sep 28, 2023 8:47 am

He was onside, moments before this he was comfortably behind DDA. Your recollection is failing you miserably. give yourself an uppercut.

Saw this on the other thread and thought it is very appropriate...

It used to be my avatar on PR for a long time