Yep, you almost felt that Canterbury game gave them some belief. I am stoked, how the hell can anyone make confident picks in this comp??Carter's Choice wrote: Sun Oct 04, 2020 5:21 am This is a thrashing. Well done Hawkes Bay, thoroughly deserved win and they backed up from a great win against Canterbury last weekend!
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TEAM PLAYED WIN LOSS DRAW +/- BP POINTS
MITRE 10 CUP PREMIERSHIP
Tasman 4 3 1 0 +51 3 15
Auckland 4 3 1 0 +56 2 14
Waikato 4 3 1 0 +31 2 14
Wellington 4 2 2 0 +10 5 13
Canterbury 4 2 2 0 +17 4 12
Bay Of Plenty 4 1 3 0 -30 3 7
North Harbour 4 1 3 0 -21 2 6
MITRE 10 CUP CHAMPIONSHIP
Hawke's Bay 4 3 1 0 +28 3 15
Northland 4 3 1 0 +3 2 14
Southland 4 2 2 0 +3 2 10
Otago 4 2 2 0 -29 2 10
Taranaki 4 2 2 0 -13 1 9
Counties 4 1 3 0 -34 1 5
Manawatu 4 0 4 0 -72 3 3oddly enuf, he is younger than the 2 other locks in our Mitre10 OldFarts XVJb1981 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:04 am From the blast from the past department, Isaac Ross is back ... as injury cover for Tasman.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provi ... st-of-year
It's a short season and the wider squad members need to start sometime? It's a rookie front rowand back three but otherwise it's not far off our best team. And with respect to Manawatu, they are a very weak team.mrbrownstone wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:23 am Canterbury team to play Manawatu:
Andrew Knewstubb, Chay Fihaki, Ngane Punivai, Rameka Poihipi, Isaiah Punivai, Fergus Burke, Ere Enari, Whetukamokamo Douglas, Billy Harmon, Reed Prinsep (c), Sam Darry, Luke Romano, Tamaiti Williams, Scott Mellow, Finlay Brewis. Reserves: Shilo Klein, Lewis Ponini, Fletcher Newell, Cullen Grace, Tom Christie, Mitchell Drummond, Brett Cameron, Josh McKay.
I don't understand all the rotation. We're nowhere near good enough this year to trot out a 'B' team and expect to win comfortably.
Good news is that Burke continues to start.
He is a naturalised Japanese, carrying a Japanese passport, but is not eligible to represent Japan because he has already played for the ABs. Despite that, he is not accepted as a Japanese in Top League because he is not eligible to play for Japan.Jb1981 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:04 am From the blast from the past department, Isaac Ross is back ... as injury cover for Tasman.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provi ... st-of-year
i thot japan doesn't do dual citizenship? infact they have a deep seated hatred for non-japanese ppl and rarely if ever give them japanese passports.Kiwias wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:14 amHe is a naturalised Japanese, carrying a Japanese passport, but is not eligible to represent Japan because he has already played for the ABs. Despite that, he is not accepted as a Japanese in Top League because he is not eligible to play for Japan.Jb1981 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:04 am From the blast from the past department, Isaac Ross is back ... as injury cover for Tasman.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provi ... st-of-year
They don't do dual citizenship, so when you naturalise, you are required to give up your former nationality.stemoc wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:57 ami thot japan doesn't do dual citizenship? infact they have a deep seated hatred for non-japanese ppl and rarely if ever give them japanese passports.Kiwias wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 3:14 amHe is a naturalised Japanese, carrying a Japanese passport, but is not eligible to represent Japan because he has already played for the ABs. Despite that, he is not accepted as a Japanese in Top League because he is not eligible to play for Japan.Jb1981 wrote: Tue Oct 06, 2020 4:04 am From the blast from the past department, Isaac Ross is back ... as injury cover for Tasman.
https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/provi ... st-of-year
Yeah fair actually. I haven't watched Manawatu play this season and didn't realise they were bottom of the championship.Carter's Choice wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:22 amIt's a short season and the wider squad members need to start sometime? It's a rookie front rowand back three but otherwise it's not far off our best team. And with respect to Manawatu, they are a very weak team.mrbrownstone wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:23 am Canterbury team to play Manawatu:
Andrew Knewstubb, Chay Fihaki, Ngane Punivai, Rameka Poihipi, Isaiah Punivai, Fergus Burke, Ere Enari, Whetukamokamo Douglas, Billy Harmon, Reed Prinsep (c), Sam Darry, Luke Romano, Tamaiti Williams, Scott Mellow, Finlay Brewis. Reserves: Shilo Klein, Lewis Ponini, Fletcher Newell, Cullen Grace, Tom Christie, Mitchell Drummond, Brett Cameron, Josh McKay.
I don't understand all the rotation. We're nowhere near good enough this year to trot out a 'B' team and expect to win comfortably.
Good news is that Burke continues to start.
Niko Jones could end up being a superstar. Auckland/the Blues certainly are amassing a wonderful array of young talent.mrbrownstone wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:59 am More team announcements here, can't be bothered copy pasting all of them: https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/20 ... ments.html
Big one is probably Niko Jones in line for his Auckland debut off the bench.
Some of the smaller sides are pale imitations of their former selves when they had availability of their All Blacks.mrbrownstone wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 4:57 amYeah fair actually. I haven't watched Manawatu play this season and didn't realise they were bottom of the championship.Carter's Choice wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 2:22 amIt's a short season and the wider squad members need to start sometime? It's a rookie front rowand back three but otherwise it's not far off our best team. And with respect to Manawatu, they are a very weak team.mrbrownstone wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:23 am Canterbury team to play Manawatu:
Andrew Knewstubb, Chay Fihaki, Ngane Punivai, Rameka Poihipi, Isaiah Punivai, Fergus Burke, Ere Enari, Whetukamokamo Douglas, Billy Harmon, Reed Prinsep (c), Sam Darry, Luke Romano, Tamaiti Williams, Scott Mellow, Finlay Brewis. Reserves: Shilo Klein, Lewis Ponini, Fletcher Newell, Cullen Grace, Tom Christie, Mitchell Drummond, Brett Cameron, Josh McKay.
I don't understand all the rotation. We're nowhere near good enough this year to trot out a 'B' team and expect to win comfortably.
Good news is that Burke continues to start.
It's largely injuries, not rotation. McLeod, McAlister, Lienert-Brown, Jager, Allan, Saunders and Mataele are all unavailable for this game.mrbrownstone wrote: Thu Oct 08, 2020 12:23 am Canterbury team to play Manawatu:
Andrew Knewstubb, Chay Fihaki, Ngane Punivai, Rameka Poihipi, Isaiah Punivai, Fergus Burke, Ere Enari, Whetukamokamo Douglas, Billy Harmon, Reed Prinsep (c), Sam Darry, Luke Romano, Tamaiti Williams, Scott Mellow, Finlay Brewis. Reserves: Shilo Klein, Lewis Ponini, Fletcher Newell, Cullen Grace, Tom Christie, Mitchell Drummond, Brett Cameron, Josh McKay.
I don't understand all the rotation. We're nowhere near good enough this year to trot out a 'B' team and expect to win comfortably.
Good news is that Burke continues to start.
https://www.vipleague.cc/manawatu-vs-ca ... ing-link-1Kiwias wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:51 am Does anyone have a friend who might perchance have a feed for the Canty v Manawatu match?
All season long.Taranaki Snapper wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:31 am Gah! Turbos too cute with the pop-pass...The Tu full of hustle and enterprise, Canty look slightly out of sorts?
Nice try.
Burke is a top drawer 10 alright. I regarded this Canterbury side as a bunch of near no names, but I still knew they would be quality. Playing lower grade rugby in Christchurch in 2002 I got to see a lot of premier grade rugger up close and trust me, the standard is impressively high.Carter's Choice wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:31 am Watching a recording of this match. Fergus Burke has already shown more potential than Brett Cameron has done across his entire career. And I think Poihipi and Punivai are developing into a very handy midfield pairing.
Carter's Choice wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:31 am Watching a recording of this match. Fergus Burke has already shown more potential than Brett Cameron has done across his entire career. And I think Poihipi and Punivai are developing into a very handy midfield pairing.
I saw enough yesterday to suggest to me that Fergus Burke is now clearly the 2nd best first-five in the CRFU and Crusaders systems, behind Richie Mo'unga. Reuben Thorne needs to start him at no.10 for the rest of this season and Roberston needs to ease him into SR in 2021. Burke is a good size, has a good kicking game and a good running game. Most importantly he looks to have a great temprament.Kiwias wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:23 pmCarter's Choice wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:31 am Watching a recording of this match. Fergus Burke has already shown more potential than Brett Cameron has done across his entire career. And I think Poihipi and Punivai are developing into a very handy midfield pairing.
Taranaki lead 23-5 after 23 mins. What's wrong with Auckland?Taranaki Snapper wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:15 am Good try to the Naki (after some initial stupidity...)
Time for Cameron to pursue his options elsewhere - somewhere like the Hurricanes perhaps where he and Garden-Bachop could duke it out for the starting spot.Carter's Choice wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 1:27 amI saw enough yesterday to suggest to me that Fergus Burke is now clearly the 2nd best first-five in the CRFU and Crusaders systems, behind Richie Mo'unga. Reuben Thorne needs to start him at no.10 for the rest of this season and Roberston needs to ease him into SR in 2021. Burke is a good size, has a good kicking game and a good running game. Most importantly he looks to have a great temprament.Kiwias wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 1:23 pmCarter's Choice wrote: Fri Oct 09, 2020 10:31 am Watching a recording of this match. Fergus Burke has already shown more potential than Brett Cameron has done across his entire career. And I think Poihipi and Punivai are developing into a very handy midfield pairing.
