NPR

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:31 am**

CM11 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:20 am
EnergiseR wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:14 am Iarmhi that is spot on. I think the important thing is to take the fear out of it now as in the blind panic some are feeling. Here is the measures and here is how we are feeling with it. Get Tony back ensuring cancer patients etc are getting looked after and tell him we'll see him in a few months
While I don't disagree that he should be very focused on normal health issues and clearing that backlog, he is hardly going to stop advising the government or population during a pandemic. Summer hasn't stopped this elsewhere, we're where we're at because of huge effort, it'd be a bit pointless for him to just give up and let us at it. Because we've already seen what that looks like with the whole country seeming to think it's over.

There has been a loosening for a while so the numbers have stayed surprisingly low really. I don't think people are probably getting tested either as the focus has moved on. When you take out the emotion of the Prime Time last night it hasn't been a big thing here. If you go into any A&E of a Friday and filmed it is like a tornado has hit with people sick and dying and bleeding all over the place. It would have the same visceral impact. The media won't be responsible as fear sells but government has to be. I am very very fearful of Donnelly's appointment as he is a populist at his core

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:32 am**

iarmhí wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:31 am
Liathroidigloine wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:30 am Howya lads.
Good man Liathroid.

I never asked you this before. Are you from Ballymahon or Lanesborough?

Neither, nearer the town, not far from the rugby club.

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:32 am**

Ah there you are now. ASMO said Travellers are sound on this bored and you have to think not what they can do for you but what you can do for them. It's quite spiritual

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:33 am**

EnergiseR wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:31 am
CM11 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:20 am
EnergiseR wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:14 am Iarmhi that is spot on. I think the important thing is to take the fear out of it now as in the blind panic some are feeling. Here is the measures and here is how we are feeling with it. Get Tony back ensuring cancer patients etc are getting looked after and tell him we'll see him in a few months
While I don't disagree that he should be very focused on normal health issues and clearing that backlog, he is hardly going to stop advising the government or population during a pandemic. Summer hasn't stopped this elsewhere, we're where we're at because of huge effort, it'd be a bit pointless for him to just give up and let us at it. Because we've already seen what that looks like with the whole country seeming to think it's over.
There has been a loosening for a while so the numbers have stayed surprisingly low really. I don't think people are probably getting tested either as the focus has moved on. When you take out the emotion of the Prime Time last night it hasn't been a big thing here. If you go into any A&E of a Friday and filmed it is like a tornado has hit with people sick and dying and bleeding all over the place. It would have the same visceral impact. The media won't be responsible as fear sells but government has to be. I am very very fearful of Donnelly's appointment as he is a populist at his core

Very worried about him as well. I think they put him in deliberately to fail.

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:35 am**

EnergiseR wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:31 am
CM11 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:20 am
EnergiseR wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:14 am Iarmhi that is spot on. I think the important thing is to take the fear out of it now as in the blind panic some are feeling. Here is the measures and here is how we are feeling with it. Get Tony back ensuring cancer patients etc are getting looked after and tell him we'll see him in a few months
While I don't disagree that he should be very focused on normal health issues and clearing that backlog, he is hardly going to stop advising the government or population during a pandemic. Summer hasn't stopped this elsewhere, we're where we're at because of huge effort, it'd be a bit pointless for him to just give up and let us at it. Because we've already seen what that looks like with the whole country seeming to think it's over.
There has been a loosening for a while so the numbers have stayed surprisingly low really. I don't think people are probably getting tested either as the focus has moved on. When you take out the emotion of the Prime Time last night it hasn't been a big thing here. If you go into any A&E of a Friday and filmed it is like a tornado has hit with people sick and dying and bleeding all over the place. It would have the same visceral impact. The media won't be responsible as fear sells but government has to be. I am very very fearful of Donnelly's appointment as he is a populist at his core

I have been tracking the hospital numbers and while there have been some mini spikes, it's gotten fairly low and as long as we stay there, case numbers are less relevant (although long term effects for non hospitalised cases can't be completely ignored).

Personally I'm not and have never been particularly concerned about getting it myself, although I'm not the healthiest, I just don't want to inadvertently be part of the problem for others.

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:37 am**

CM11 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:35 am
EnergiseR wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:31 am
CM11 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:20 am

While I don't disagree that he should be very focused on normal health issues and clearing that backlog, he is hardly going to stop advising the government or population during a pandemic. Summer hasn't stopped this elsewhere, we're where we're at because of huge effort, it'd be a bit pointless for him to just give up and let us at it. Because we've already seen what that looks like with the whole country seeming to think it's over.
There has been a loosening for a while so the numbers have stayed surprisingly low really. I don't think people are probably getting tested either as the focus has moved on. When you take out the emotion of the Prime Time last night it hasn't been a big thing here. If you go into any A&E of a Friday and filmed it is like a tornado has hit with people sick and dying and bleeding all over the place. It would have the same visceral impact. The media won't be responsible as fear sells but government has to be. I am very very fearful of Donnelly's appointment as he is a populist at his core
I have been tracking the hospital numbers and while there have been some mini spikes, it's gotten fairly low and as long as we stay there, case numbers are less relevant (although long term effects for non hospitalised cases can't be completely ignored).

Personally I'm not and have never been particularly concerned about getting it myself, although I'm not the healthiest, I just don't want to inadvertently be part of the problem for others.

Well the new cases seem to be younger people, so we're unlikely to see deaths increase or ICU admissions increase too much.

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:38 am**

CM11 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:21 am https://m.independent.ie/entertainment/ ... 24848.html

I presume all of this is humour? There aren't actually people upset about this, are there?

US celebrity Stan culture is fucking weird.

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:41 am**

It's an interesting predicament for older people. Do they want to stay walled off for the foreseeable future. My parents don't see much life in that and have gone from locked away to tentative steps. They are still pretty safe but allow themselves a little hug of the kids

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:42 am**

iarmhí wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:37 am
CM11 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:35 am
EnergiseR wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:31 am

There has been a loosening for a while so the numbers have stayed surprisingly low really. I don't think people are probably getting tested either as the focus has moved on. When you take out the emotion of the Prime Time last night it hasn't been a big thing here. If you go into any A&E of a Friday and filmed it is like a tornado has hit with people sick and dying and bleeding all over the place. It would have the same visceral impact. The media won't be responsible as fear sells but government has to be. I am very very fearful of Donnelly's appointment as he is a populist at his core
I have been tracking the hospital numbers and while there have been some mini spikes, it's gotten fairly low and as long as we stay there, case numbers are less relevant (although long term effects for non hospitalised cases can't be completely ignored).

Personally I'm not and have never been particularly concerned about getting it myself, although I'm not the healthiest, I just don't want to inadvertently be part of the problem for others.
Well the new cases seem to be younger people, so we're unlikely to see deaths increase or ICU admissions increase too much.

As long as that remains the case, we'll be fine. Just hope the young people are avoiding their parents!

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:44 am**

It's common sense. If you've fever, cough or loss of taste or smell, you should not be going anywhere near your parents.

If asymptomatic, then it's down to luck as you won't know.

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:46 am**

That's it. People have to be responsible for themselves and make choices. I see stuff online about suggested off the wall state involvement but some just want to be led around the place

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:48 am**

iarmhí wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:44 am It's common sense. If you've fever, cough or loss of taste or smell, you should not be going anywhere near your parents.

If asymptomatic, then it's down to luck as you won't know.

Unfortunately you can guarantee there is a complete lack of common sense from at least 20% of the population. We can not rely on the public to self police, fines for not wearing masks should be drafted immediately which would quickly put manners on the unwashed masses.

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:48 am**

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/ ... -1.4292494

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:50 am**

Mitty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:48 am
iarmhí wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:44 am It's common sense. If you've fever, cough or loss of taste or smell, you should not be going anywhere near your parents.

If asymptomatic, then it's down to luck as you won't know.
Unfortunately you can guarantee there is a complete lack of common sense from at least 20% of the population. We can not rely on the public to self police, fines for not wearing masks should be drafted immediately which would quickly put manners on the unwashed masses.

Fines definitely. The way you get people to comply here is to take their money of they don't

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:53 am**

I think I heard Leo saying last week that they're really going to shore up this covid form 14 day quarantine coming into Dublin airport.

It will be filled out online at the originating airport, and you don't get boarding pass until it's submitted.

That would be way more effective than getting someone to fill it out at the border into Dublin airport.

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:56 am**

I see Nearform are developing the contact tracing app. They have a fantastic track record and do not mess around so I would be confident they will deliver something useful. Northern Ireland also collaborating with us on that which would be fantastic. Hopefully the data privacy army don't bog down the process, they need to take a knee for the next 18 months.

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:58 am**

iarmhí wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:53 am I think I heard Leo saying last week that they're really going to shore up this covid form 14 day quarantine coming into Dublin airport.

It will be filled out online at the originating airport, and you don't get boarding pass until it's submitted.

That would be way more effective than getting someone to fill it out at the border into Dublin airport.

Can still lie on it, I suppose. And enforcement that you actually are isolating is tricky. Also heard a story that one person's idea of isolating was having everyone come see them at the house they were isolating in.

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:59 am**

Mitty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:56 am I see Nearform are developing the contact tracing app. They have a fantastic track record and do not mess around so I would be confident they will deliver something useful. Northern Ireland also collaborating with us on that which would be fantastic. Hopefully the data privacy army don't bog down the process, they need to take a knee for the next 18 months.

Helen Dixon?? She most certainly will bog down this process.

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:01 am**

Read that the app is ready to be approved by cabinet but they were expecting it to be approved last week so it's up to Donnelly to push it now.

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:02 am**

iarmhí wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:59 am
Mitty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:56 am I see Nearform are developing the contact tracing app. They have a fantastic track record and do not mess around so I would be confident they will deliver something useful. Northern Ireland also collaborating with us on that which would be fantastic. Hopefully the data privacy army don't bog down the process, they need to take a knee for the next 18 months.
Helen Dixon?? She most certainly will bog down this process.

Any number of them, there is a legion of them clogging up our courts. I can understand their concern as it is a difficult genie to put back in the bottle but I would assume Nearform have built in some sort of safe guards.

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:04 am**

The main drive of the apple/Google API was to avoid privacy concerns. Hard to see what the concerns would be.

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:05 am**

Mitty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:02 am
iarmhí wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:59 am
Mitty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:56 am I see Nearform are developing the contact tracing app. They have a fantastic track record and do not mess around so I would be confident they will deliver something useful. Northern Ireland also collaborating with us on that which would be fantastic. Hopefully the data privacy army don't bog down the process, they need to take a knee for the next 18 months.
Helen Dixon?? She most certainly will bog down this process.
Any number of them, there is a legion of them clogging up our courts. I can understand their concern as it is a difficult genie to put back in the bottle but I would assume Nearform have built in some sort of safe guards.

Gardai intelligence may still use purely for information gathering it but won't but able to use it for convictions in a court.

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:09 am**

iarmhí wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:05 am
Mitty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:02 am
iarmhí wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 10:59 am

Helen Dixon?? She most certainly will bog down this process.
Any number of them, there is a legion of them clogging up our courts. I can understand their concern as it is a difficult genie to put back in the bottle but I would assume Nearform have built in some sort of safe guards.
Gardai intelligence may still use purely for information gathering it but won't but able to use it for convictions in a court.

How though? There's no tracking info to say where you were or when. It just tracks who you've been near but there's no way to identify that person.

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:11 am**

Don’t have much faith in Nearform ..... or any BLE technology being used for social distancing analysis or contact tracing frankly

We’ve gone about this the wrong way ...... we should have ignored GDPR (it’s only 2 years old but we’re slaves to it already) and built the app/technology to be as invasive as possible ... like they did in China

Our data privacy/civil liberties first approach to the app has seen it already take over 2 months of development and its still not rolled out.

When the app does come out, it’ll start telling people them were close to a confirmed case on a bus, when in fact they were on the deck directly above/below them.

I know a bit about the limitations of Bluetooth, Antennae and GPS hardware ....... the HSE should have gotten Taoglas involved, not some crowd of software developers

The apple stuff lacks physical accuracy also. The GPS chip in your phone only knows “roughly” where is it (5m-10m tolerance) about 60% of the time ..... and that’s only outdoors and in good signal conditions.

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:14 am**

CM11 wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:09 am
iarmhí wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:05 am
Mitty wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:02 am

Any number of them, there is a legion of them clogging up our courts. I can understand their concern as it is a difficult genie to put back in the bottle but I would assume Nearform have built in some sort of safe guards.
Gardai intelligence may still use purely for information gathering it but won't but able to use it for convictions in a court.
How though? There's no tracking info to say where you were or when. It just tracks who you've been near but there's no way to identify that person.

You're right but you never know with state intelligence. You won't know if they do know.

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:17 am**

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/ ... -1.4292507

6666 abortions carried out in the state last year. A coincidence that its pretty much the devils number? I think not........

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:18 am**

Liathroidi has already showed his face. No need for the bait.

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:19 am**

Locke Lamora wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:11 am Don’t have much faith in Nearform ..... or any BLE technology being used for social distancing analysis or contact tracing frankly

We’ve gone about this the wrong way ...... we should have ignored GDPR (it’s only 2 years old but we’re slaves to it already) and built the app/technology to be as invasive as possible ... like they did in China

Our data privacy/civil liberties first approach to the app has seen it already take over 2 months of development and its still not rolled out.

When the app does come out, it’ll start telling people them were close to a confirmed case on a bus, when in fact they were on the deck directly above/below them.

I know a bit about the limitations of Bluetooth, Antennae and GPS hardware ....... the HSE should have gotten Taoglas involved, not some crowd of software developers

The apple stuff lacks physical accuracy also. The GPS chip in your phone only knows “roughly” where is it (5m-10m tolerance) about 60% of the time ..... and that’s only outdoors and in good signal conditions.

So do you suggest using tech like Decawave for accurate readings and issuing bands to every citizen? I like the idea but unfortunately we have to work within the confines of what's possible.

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:28 am**

iarmhí wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:25 pmDuff will be back.

No chance

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:29 am**

well well well, look what the cat hocked up

FFS, you didnt even last a day

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:34 am**

Fuck sake

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:39 am**

6,666 abortions. The devil's older brothers work

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:46 am**

I wonder does Salanya know about this bored?
She may be on F365 and looking in horror as all posts are from Derwyn and Keith.

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:48 am**

Duff Paddy wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:28 am
iarmhí wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:25 pmDuff will be back.
No chance

We need to have a chat about you slating Nightmarket :x

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:51 am**

EnergiseR wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:39 am

6,666 abortions. The devil's older brothers work

Doubt we will get a report like they do in the UK with detailed information. That's 3.8 times the number killed by COVID 19.

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:52 am**

anyone read Una's latest whiney whinge in the IT yesterday? You could almost hear the salty teardrops hitting the keyboard over the unfairness of a functioning democracy. The standard of journalism in Ireland at the moment is shockingly bad.

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:53 am**

Hobo Hooker wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:52 am anyone read Una's latest whiney whinge in the IT yesterday? You could almost hear the salty teardrops hitting the keyboard over the unfairness of a functioning democracy. The standard of journalism in Ireland at the moment is shockingly bad.

Which one are you from the old bored?

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:54 am**

iarmhí wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:53 am
Hobo Hooker wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:52 am anyone read Una's latest whiney whinge in the IT yesterday? You could almost hear the salty teardrops hitting the keyboard over the unfairness of a functioning democracy. The standard of journalism in Ireland at the moment is shockingly bad.
Which one are you from the old bored?

long time lurker

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:55 am**

Hobo Hooker wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:54 am
iarmhí wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:53 am
Hobo Hooker wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:52 am anyone read Una's latest whiney whinge in the IT yesterday? You could almost hear the salty teardrops hitting the keyboard over the unfairness of a functioning democracy. The standard of journalism in Ireland at the moment is shockingly bad.
Which one are you from the old bored?
long time lurker

Welcome

Posted: **Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:06 pm**

Liathroidigloine wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:51 am
EnergiseR wrote: ↑Tue Jun 30, 2020 11:39 am

6,666 abortions. The devil's older brothers work
Doubt we will get a report like they do in the UK with detailed information. That's 3.8 times the number killed by COVID 19.

And we aren't allowed to travel for either now

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