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Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:58 am

Jock42 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:41 am Rumours that 2 PARA are in contact.

What’s that mean to the layman?

2 units actively fighting taliban??

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:58 am

Jock42 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:41 am Rumours that 2 PARA are in contact.

What’s that mean to the layman?

2 units actively fighting taliban??

Jock42 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:02 pm If people don't want to donate, that's fine. To spout shite like that when a bloke is trying to raise money for a terp and his family to be relocated before the Taliban get a hold of them is a complete dickhead move. And to play the fucking victim card to boot? I'm pretty sure nae cunt is holding you, whoever you are, responsible.

BlueCollarRugby wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:23 am

Jock42 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:02 pm If people don't want to donate, that's fine. To spout shite like that when a bloke is trying to raise money for a terp and his family to be relocated before the Taliban get a hold of them is a complete dickhead move. And to play the fucking victim card to boot? I'm pretty sure nae cunt is holding you, whoever you are, responsible.

Relocate over here so they can breed and sponge yeah ok. Let’s let their whole “army” of deserters in to Europe as well, a lot of them thrive in the drug dealing, stabbing and raping industry we are building for ourselves.

I like neeps wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:37 am Will Afghanistan go down as one of the worst western foreign policy interventions?

I guess you can't have a ground war against insurgents whilst buying oil off their financial backers and expect all to end well.

BlueCollarRugby wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:23 am

Jock42 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:02 pm If people don't want to donate, that's fine. To spout shite like that when a bloke is trying to raise money for a terp and his family to be relocated before the Taliban get a hold of them is a complete dickhead move. And to play the fucking victim card to boot? I'm pretty sure nae cunt is holding you, whoever you are, responsible.

Relocate over here so they can breed and sponge yeah ok. Let’s let their whole “army” of deserters in to Europe as well, a lot of them thrive in the drug dealing, stabbing and raping industry we are building for ourselves.

BlueCollarRugby wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:23 am

Jock42 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:02 pm If people don't want to donate, that's fine. To spout shite like that when a bloke is trying to raise money for a terp and his family to be relocated before the Taliban get a hold of them is a complete dickhead move. And to play the fucking victim card to boot? I'm pretty sure nae cunt is holding you, whoever you are, responsible.

Relocate over here so they can breed and sponge yeah ok. Let’s let their whole “army” of deserters in to Europe as well, a lot of them thrive in the drug dealing, stabbing and raping industry we are building for ourselves.

I like neeps wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:37 am Will Afghanistan go down as one of the worst western foreign policy interventions?

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 2:33 pm So the president has bailed it would seem

BlueCollarRugby wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:48 pm I am a cunt

laurent wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:06 pm

BlueCollarRugby wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:48 pm I am a cunt

Quite

Afghan wanted in connection with 13-year-old Austrian girl's gang-rape and murder is arrested in London

Lobby wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:12 pm Some more reasons here why this sudden withdrawal of US troops is a betrayal of a society that was starting to rebuild itself.

Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:30 pm

Lobby wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:12 pm Some more reasons here why this sudden withdrawal of US troops is a betrayal of a society that was starting to rebuild itself.

Blimey it’s just terrifying what’s in store for these people.

BlueCollarRugby wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:03 pm

laurent wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 3:06 pm

BlueCollarRugby wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 10:48 pm I am a cunt

Quite

Ooh nooo nasty, racist man actually cares about his own people first, bad, very bad man. He should just not give a shit or even be happy that it’s soon going to be like Afghanistan here, already is in many parts.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dail ... ondon.html

Afghan wanted in connection with 13-year-old Austrian girl's gang-rape and murder is arrested in London

Stupid little White bitch, who cares about her, the savage hillmen thousands of miles and hundreds of years away take priority

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:08 pm Is this some weird DAC multi?

Seems a bit much even for him

Jock42 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:41 am Rumours that 2 PARA are in contact.

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 6:08 pm Is this some weird DAC multi?

Seems a bit much even for him

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 8:19 pm

Jock42 wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:41 am Rumours that 2 PARA are in contact.

My mate's son is out there. First deployment.

Hugo wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:25 pm Hope you are doing ok Jock. All the things you did over there to make it a better, safer place will have certainly improved peoples lives and maybe the full fruits of those efforts will be realised at some point in the future. Take care of yourself.

BlueCollarRugby wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:23 am

Jock42 wrote: ↑Sat Aug 14, 2021 11:02 pm If people don't want to donate, that's fine. To spout shite like that when a bloke is trying to raise money for a terp and his family to be relocated before the Taliban get a hold of them is a complete dickhead move. And to play the fucking victim card to boot? I'm pretty sure nae cunt is holding you, whoever you are, responsible.

Relocate over here so they can breed and sponge yeah ok. Let’s let their whole “army” of deserters in to Europe as well, a lot of them thrive in the drug dealing, stabbing and raping industry we are building for ourselves.

Too far BCR. Take a week off - last warning before that becomes permanent

Hugo wrote: ↑Sun Aug 15, 2021 9:25 pm Hope you are doing ok Jock. All the things you did over there to make it a better, safer place will have certainly improved peoples lives and maybe the full fruits of those efforts will be realised at some point in the future. Take care of yourself.

Well that was as busy a day as I have ever had. No chance for golf at all ...
Taliban on outskirts of Afghan capital, poised to take power
The Taliban was on the brink of total victory in Afghanistan on Sunday, with its fighters ordered to wait on the outskirts of the capital and the government conceding it was preparing for a "transfer of power".
The Taliban's militants surrounded Kabul following an astonishing rout of government forces and warlord militias achieved in just 10 days.
The fall of Kabul would see the hardline Islamic group take back power two decades after US-led forces toppled it in the wake of the September 11, 2001 attacks.
"The Islamic Emirate instructs all its forces to stand at the gates of Kabul, not to try to enter the city," a spokesman for the Taliban tweeted as residents reported insurgents on the outskirts of the city.
"Until the completion of the transition process, the responsibility for the security of Kabul is with the other side (the Afghan government)".
President Ashraf Ghani -- who most expect to resign in days, if not hours -- conceded as much, and in a video message released to media urged what remains of his security forces to maintain law and order.
There are fears of a security vacuum in the capital as thousands of police and other armed services members have abandoned their posts, uniforms and even weapons.
"It is our responsibility and we will do it in the best possible manner," Ghani said, hours after the Taliban seized two nearby prisons and released thousands of inmates.
"Anyone who thinks about chaos, plunder or looting will be tackled with force," he added.
The government signalled earlier there were negotiations underway to avoid bloodshed in Kabul, and to hand power to the Taliban.
"The Afghan people should not worry... there will be no attack on the city and there will be a peaceful transfer of power to the transitional government," Interior Minister Abdul Sattar Mirzakwal said in a recorded speech.
But the Taliban's imminent takeover triggered fear and panic in Kabul among residents fearful of the group's hardline brand of Islam.
- Isolated -
The scale and speed of the insurgents' advance have shocked Afghans and the US-led alliance that poured billions into the country over the past two decades.
Ghani's government was left completely isolated on Sunday after the insurgents overran the anti-Taliban northern stronghold of Mazar-i-Sharif and the eastern city of Jalalabad.
Like with most of the other captured cities, the seizure of power came after government forces surrendered or retreated.
It left the Taliban holding all the cards in any negotiated surrender of the capital.
- Evacuations -
President Joe Biden ordered the deployment of an additional 1,000 US troops to help secure the emergency evacuation from Kabul of embassy employees and thousands of Afghans who worked for American forces and now fear Taliban reprisals.
That was on top of the 3,000 American soldiers deployed in recent days, and 1,000 left in-country after Biden announced in May that the final withdrawal of the 20-year military presence in Afghanistan would be completed by September 11.
That decision has come under increased scrutiny given the collapse of the Afghan armed forces, but he insisted Saturday there was no choice.
"I was the fourth president to preside over an American troop presence in Afghanistan -- two Republicans, two Democrats. I would not, and will not, pass this war onto a fifth," Biden said.
Videos posted on pro-Taliban social media accounts showed the group's heavily armed fighters in cities across the country, waving white flags and greeting locals.
Most of the fighters appeared young, suggesting they were most likely infants or unborn when the Taliban was toppled from power in 2001.
In Mazar-i-Sharif, warlords Abdul Rashid Dostum and Atta Mohammad Noor, who had led a militia resistance in the city to support government forces, had fled to Uzbekistan, about 30 kilometres to the north, an aide to Noor said.
- Panic -
As the Taliban closed in on the capital, panicked residents swarmed banks for a second straight day, hoping to withdraw their savings.
Many were already resigned to the Taliban taking power.
"My only wish is that their return leads to peace. That is all we want," said Kabul shopkeeper Tariq Nezami.
There were also signs people were already resigned to changing their lives to accommodate the resurgent regime.
A worker was seen Sunday whitewashing advertising billboards on a beauty parlour featuring a glamorous bride.
For the tens of thousands who have sought refuge in Kabul in recent weeks, the overwhelming mood was one of apprehension and fear.
One doctor who arrived in the capital with his 35-strong family from Kunduz said he planned to return today.
"I am worried there will be a lot of fighting here. I would rather return home, where I know it has stopped," he told AFP, asking not to be named.

Kiwias wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:43 am Am I the only one who thinks that the Taliban fighters wandering around the Presidential palace are far better behaved than the insurrectionists who stormed the US Capitol on 6 January?

Kiwias wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:43 am Am I the only one who thinks that the Taliban fighters wandering around the Presidential palace are far better behaved than the insurrectionists who stormed the US Capitol on 6 January?

Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:59 am I’m assuming this happened without the Afghans fighting.

Aside from pay, which I’d argue is less important than what lies ahead. Why didn’t they fight? Given the alleged numerical advantage they had. As well as equipment ?

Were they ok with what the Taliban will bring? Or were they terrified what would happen to them and families if they did fight and were captured?

Kiwias wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:43 am Am I the only one who thinks that the Taliban fighters wandering around the Presidential palace are far better behaved than the insurrectionists who stormed the US Capitol on 6 January?

Slick wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 7:11 am

Ymx wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 6:59 am I’m assuming this happened without the Afghans fighting.

Aside from pay, which I’d argue is less important than what lies ahead. Why didn’t they fight? Given the alleged numerical advantage they had. As well as equipment ?

Were they ok with what the Taliban will bring? Or were they terrified what would happen to them and families if they did fight and were captured?

Because every bit of support they had disappeared, a lot of them were fighting in areas where they had little skin in the game, including fighting on behalf of a corrupt governent. But mostly shit scared about what would happen to them and their families, I imagine. I have nothing but sympathy for them.

Kiwias wrote: ↑Mon Aug 16, 2021 1:43 am Am I the only one who thinks that the Taliban fighters wandering around the Presidential palace are far better behaved than the insurrectionists who stormed the US Capitol on 6 January?