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[bok_viking]

The following is a compilation of specific things that Trump has proposed in his Project 47 platform in writing, on video and in interviews and rally speeches. Why the hell the Harris campaign thought arguing whether Kevin Roberts's wish list was Trump's agenda, rather than actually focusing on these things, just completely mystifies me.

Here they are:

BUDGET & TAXES:

1. No taxes on tips.

2. Interest on car loans will be tax deductible.

3. No taxes on Social Security payments.

4. No taxes on any overtime income.

5. Across the board income tax cut for every taxpayer.

6. Make previous Trump tax cuts permanent.

7. Cut the corporate tax rate.

8. No cuts in benefits or changes in Social Security retirement age.

9. The federal budget will be cut by 33%.

10. Tax credits for home caregivers who are family members.

11. Repeal the Impound Control Act of 1974, which will prohibits a president from withholding funding approved by Congress in their budget that he disagrees with.

12. Interest rates on credit cards will be capped at 10%.

Spoiler

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IMMIGRATION:

13. All migrants, including those with pending asylum claims, will be taken into custody and deported immediately by invoking the Alien Enemies Act of 1798.

14. Birthright citizenship will be ended by executive order. All persons who were born in the US to migrant parents will have their citizenship revoked and will be deported immediately.

15. Border will be closed with no migrants entering the US by moving thousands of US troops from overseas to be stationed on the southern border.

16. Border wall across southern US and Mexico will be completed.

17. All releases into the US of asylum seekers will be ended and Remain in Mexico policy reinstated.

18. Increase criminal penalties for illegal entry.

19. Reinstitute travel ban.

GENERAL DOMESTIC POLICY:

20. Construct 10 new 'Freedom Cities' in the US which will be completely free from all government regulations of any kind.

21. No EV mandates or subsidies.

22. Create a Central Bank Digital Currency.

23. Homelessness will be criminalized and all homeless in the US will be arrested and given the choice of incarceration or admission into a new federal tent city for treatment.

24. Federal tent cities for arrested homeless - "Homeless Rehabilitation Centers' - will be fully staffed with doctors, psychiatrists and social workers.

25. Send astronauts to the moon.

26. Send astronauts to Mars.

27. Open federal lands to new home construction.

28. Seize control of the District of Columbia and have all city agencies run and controlled by the federal government.

29. Build new national monuments.

30. Create a federal task force to combat anti-Christian bias.

31. Provide housing for all 33,000 homeless veterans.

32. IVF will be fully covered with no out-of-pocket costs to parents.

33. Create job training and skills programs for all recovering drug addicts.

34. Provide federal funding for faith-based drug treatment centers.

35. Expand the Family & Medical Leave Act to require all employers to give time off for drug rehabilitation programs.

36. Create a White House Task Force called 'Salute 250,' which will organize one year of festivities across the US from Memorial Day 2025 to July 4, 2026.

37. Create the 'Great American State Fair' which will be held in Iowa each year with exhibits from all 50 states. (Promised right before the Iowa Caucus).

38. Create 'The Patriot Games' which will be an annual national competition for high school athletes in every sport similar to the Olympics.

39. Everyone over 18 shall be given the option to opt out of all content moderation on social media platforms.

40. Content moderation on social media platforms must not use AI.

41. Former employees of FBI, CIA, NSA, DNI, DHS and DOD shall not be permitted to take any job with a social media company for 7 years after leaving government service.

42. Have the US opt out of the Paris Climate Accords.

43. Repeal Biden's Administrations motor vehicle emissions standards.

44. The US government and agencies will only recognize people for the gender on their original birth certificate for all purposes.

45. All healthcare providers who perform gender reassignment surgeries are people under 18 will be permanently terminated from Medicare and Medicaid.

EDUCATION:

46. Abolish the Department of Education.

47. Parents of all public schools can vote to remove a principal at any time.

48. School principals will be elected by parents each year.

49. Seize endowments of universities who either have DEI programs, consider race in admissions or hiring, or teach CRT. Endowments will be seized by levying a fine in lawsuits brought by DOJ that is equal to the amount in the endowment

50. A portion of money seized from university endowments will be used to compensate people who have been discriminated against in admissions and hiring due to DEI or preferences. (Intended for White people and Asians)

51. Deport foreign students who are pro-Hamas or make anti-American statements on campus.

52. End tenure for teachers and professors.

53. Increase merit pay for teachers.

54. Universal, national school choice for all school systems in the country.

55. Bible study will be instituted in public schools.

56. School prayer will be instituted in public schools.

57. All student who assaults a teacher or another student will be permanently expelled from that school.

58. All schools receive additional funding to "harden" them against school shooters and invaders.

59. College tuition at all colleges and universities will be reduced.

60. Create 'The American Academy' which will be a University run by the federal government. Tuition will be free. It will be paid for by money seized from other Universities' endowments. Full curriculum will be online available to all Americans for free. Students will receive a fully credentialed bachelor's degree.

61. $10,000 per child tax credit for home schooling.

62. All high school and college accreditors shall be fired immediately with accreditation services replaced by a group appointed by the president.

63. Revoke federal funding for all non-profits and academic programs dedicated to combatting disinformation and misinformation online.

64. Teacher certification will be changed and governed by a new federal agency that will only grant certifications to teachers who "embrace patriotic values."

FOREIGN POLICY & NATIONAL DEFENSE:

65. Require the EU to reimburse the US for all aid provided to Ukraine from the time of Russia's invasion to present.

66. End Ukraine war within 24 hours of taking office.

67. End the conflict between Israel and Gaza within 24 hours.

68. End violence inside Lebanon.

69. Create an Iron Dome Missile Defense Shield that will protect the entire US.

70. Increase defense spending to highest levels in history.

71. China will prevent the export of all fentanyl precursors.

TRADE:

72. Across the board 10% tariff on all foreign imports.

73. Tariffs of 20-60% imposed on all goods imported from China.

74. Revoke China's Most Favored Nation Status for trade.

75. Stop importation of all EVs from China.

76. All companies with plants in China or importing parts manufactured in China will be banned from conducting any business with the US government. (Proposed when Musk was supporting Desantis).

77. Tariff placed on all imports of Ibuprofen, Hydrocortisone, Acetaminophen, and Penicillin until 100% of each drug sold in the US is manufactured in the US.

78. The Trump Reciprocal Trade Act will impose tariffs on all imports equal to tariffs imposed by a foreign country on US products.

79. Chinese companies will be forced to sell all US holdings in energy, tech, telecommunications, farmland, natural resources, and medical supplies.

80. Return all auto manufacturing jobs from US auto companies with plants in Mexico to the US by imposting huge tariffs on Mexico.

ENERGY POLICY:

81. Authorize new drilling for oil to increase production above current levels.

82. Lift ban on exports of natural gas to other countries.

83. Electricity and home energy bills will be reduced by 50%.

84. New nuclear power plants will be authorized and constructed.

85. Over 200 new power plants using coal and other fossil fuels will be constructed.

86. All electric grids will be modernized.

CRIMINAL JUSTICE:

87. Pardon defendants convicted and arrested for crimes related to J6 and stolen classified documents.

88. Have the US Navy implement a naval blockade to prevent all fentanyl precursors from entering the US by sea.

89. Federal immunity for state and local police officers to prohibit civil rights and excessive force lawsuits being brought against them.

90. Death penalty for human trafficking offenses.

91. People convicted of selling drugs will receive the death penalty.

92. Pardon convicted drug trafficker Ross Ulbricht (promise to Libertarian Party).

93. DOJ will investigate and prosecute local District Attorneys believed to have persecuted because of their religious believes, such as anti-abortion activists outside clinics.

Guessing a lot of people stopped reading here?

The US deficit is going to grow massively in the next 4 years if he implements everything he said. And less countries wanting to buy lots of US bonds

The EU will be totally screwed. On orders from their emperor they have been burning bridges with China and others, now their emperor wants to punish them financially. So the EU will be screwed from 2 sides with China starting to push back already

One thing missed on that list is that he said he will declare war on any country that stops using the dollar for international trade.

[Biffer]

The following is a compilation of specific things that Trump has proposed in his Project 47 platform in writing, on video and in interviews and rally speeches. Why the hell the Harris campaign thought arguing whether Kevin Roberts's wish list was Trump's agenda, rather than actually focusing on these things, just completely mystifies me.

Here they are:

BUDGET & TAXES:

1. No taxes on tips.

2. Interest on car loans will be tax deductible.

3. No taxes on Social Security payments.

4. No taxes on any overtime income.

5. Across the board income tax cut for every taxpayer.

6. Make previous Trump tax cuts permanent.

7. Cut the corporate tax rate.

8. No cuts in benefits or changes in Social Security retirement age.

9. The federal budget will be cut by 33%.

10. Tax credits for home caregivers who are family members.

11. Repeal the Impound Control Act of 1974, which will prohibits a president from withholding funding approved by Congress in their budget that he disagrees with.

12. Interest rates on credit cards will be capped at 10%.

Spoiler

Show

IMMIGRATION:

13. All migrants, including those with pending asylum claims, will be taken into custody and deported immediately by invoking the Alien Enemies Act of 1798.

14. Birthright citizenship will be ended by executive order. All persons who were born in the US to migrant parents will have their citizenship revoked and will be deported immediately.

15. Border will be closed with no migrants entering the US by moving thousands of US troops from overseas to be stationed on the southern border.

16. Border wall across southern US and Mexico will be completed.

17. All releases into the US of asylum seekers will be ended and Remain in Mexico policy reinstated.

18. Increase criminal penalties for illegal entry.

19. Reinstitute travel ban.

GENERAL DOMESTIC POLICY:

20. Construct 10 new 'Freedom Cities' in the US which will be completely free from all government regulations of any kind.

21. No EV mandates or subsidies.

22. Create a Central Bank Digital Currency.

23. Homelessness will be criminalized and all homeless in the US will be arrested and given the choice of incarceration or admission into a new federal tent city for treatment.

24. Federal tent cities for arrested homeless - "Homeless Rehabilitation Centers' - will be fully staffed with doctors, psychiatrists and social workers.

25. Send astronauts to the moon.

26. Send astronauts to Mars.

27. Open federal lands to new home construction.

28. Seize control of the District of Columbia and have all city agencies run and controlled by the federal government.

29. Build new national monuments.

30. Create a federal task force to combat anti-Christian bias.

31. Provide housing for all 33,000 homeless veterans.

32. IVF will be fully covered with no out-of-pocket costs to parents.

33. Create job training and skills programs for all recovering drug addicts.

34. Provide federal funding for faith-based drug treatment centers.

35. Expand the Family & Medical Leave Act to require all employers to give time off for drug rehabilitation programs.

36. Create a White House Task Force called 'Salute 250,' which will organize one year of festivities across the US from Memorial Day 2025 to July 4, 2026.

37. Create the 'Great American State Fair' which will be held in Iowa each year with exhibits from all 50 states. (Promised right before the Iowa Caucus).

38. Create 'The Patriot Games' which will be an annual national competition for high school athletes in every sport similar to the Olympics.

39. Everyone over 18 shall be given the option to opt out of all content moderation on social media platforms.

40. Content moderation on social media platforms must not use AI.

41. Former employees of FBI, CIA, NSA, DNI, DHS and DOD shall not be permitted to take any job with a social media company for 7 years after leaving government service.

42. Have the US opt out of the Paris Climate Accords.

43. Repeal Biden's Administrations motor vehicle emissions standards.

44. The US government and agencies will only recognize people for the gender on their original birth certificate for all purposes.

45. All healthcare providers who perform gender reassignment surgeries are people under 18 will be permanently terminated from Medicare and Medicaid.

EDUCATION:

46. Abolish the Department of Education.

47. Parents of all public schools can vote to remove a principal at any time.

48. School principals will be elected by parents each year.

49. Seize endowments of universities who either have DEI programs, consider race in admissions or hiring, or teach CRT. Endowments will be seized by levying a fine in lawsuits brought by DOJ that is equal to the amount in the endowment

50. A portion of money seized from university endowments will be used to compensate people who have been discriminated against in admissions and hiring due to DEI or preferences. (Intended for White people and Asians)

51. Deport foreign students who are pro-Hamas or make anti-American statements on campus.

52. End tenure for teachers and professors.

53. Increase merit pay for teachers.

54. Universal, national school choice for all school systems in the country.

55. Bible study will be instituted in public schools.

56. School prayer will be instituted in public schools.

57. All student who assaults a teacher or another student will be permanently expelled from that school.

58. All schools receive additional funding to "harden" them against school shooters and invaders.

59. College tuition at all colleges and universities will be reduced.

60. Create 'The American Academy' which will be a University run by the federal government. Tuition will be free. It will be paid for by money seized from other Universities' endowments. Full curriculum will be online available to all Americans for free. Students will receive a fully credentialed bachelor's degree.

61. $10,000 per child tax credit for home schooling.

62. All high school and college accreditors shall be fired immediately with accreditation services replaced by a group appointed by the president.

63. Revoke federal funding for all non-profits and academic programs dedicated to combatting disinformation and misinformation online.

64. Teacher certification will be changed and governed by a new federal agency that will only grant certifications to teachers who "embrace patriotic values."

FOREIGN POLICY & NATIONAL DEFENSE:

65. Require the EU to reimburse the US for all aid provided to Ukraine from the time of Russia's invasion to present.

66. End Ukraine war within 24 hours of taking office.

67. End the conflict between Israel and Gaza within 24 hours.

68. End violence inside Lebanon.

69. Create an Iron Dome Missile Defense Shield that will protect the entire US.

70. Increase defense spending to highest levels in history.

71. China will prevent the export of all fentanyl precursors.

TRADE:

72. Across the board 10% tariff on all foreign imports.

73. Tariffs of 20-60% imposed on all goods imported from China.

74. Revoke China's Most Favored Nation Status for trade.

75. Stop importation of all EVs from China.

76. All companies with plants in China or importing parts manufactured in China will be banned from conducting any business with the US government. (Proposed when Musk was supporting Desantis).

77. Tariff placed on all imports of Ibuprofen, Hydrocortisone, Acetaminophen, and Penicillin until 100% of each drug sold in the US is manufactured in the US.

78. The Trump Reciprocal Trade Act will impose tariffs on all imports equal to tariffs imposed by a foreign country on US products.

79. Chinese companies will be forced to sell all US holdings in energy, tech, telecommunications, farmland, natural resources, and medical supplies.

80. Return all auto manufacturing jobs from US auto companies with plants in Mexico to the US by imposting huge tariffs on Mexico.

ENERGY POLICY:

81. Authorize new drilling for oil to increase production above current levels.

82. Lift ban on exports of natural gas to other countries.

83. Electricity and home energy bills will be reduced by 50%.

84. New nuclear power plants will be authorized and constructed.

85. Over 200 new power plants using coal and other fossil fuels will be constructed.

86. All electric grids will be modernized.

CRIMINAL JUSTICE:

87. Pardon defendants convicted and arrested for crimes related to J6 and stolen classified documents.

88. Have the US Navy implement a naval blockade to prevent all fentanyl precursors from entering the US by sea.

89. Federal immunity for state and local police officers to prohibit civil rights and excessive force lawsuits being brought against them.

90. Death penalty for human trafficking offenses.

91. People convicted of selling drugs will receive the death penalty.

92. Pardon convicted drug trafficker Ross Ulbricht (promise to Libertarian Party).

93. DOJ will investigate and prosecute local District Attorneys believed to have persecuted because of their religious believes, such as anti-abortion activists outside clinics.

Guessing a lot of people stopped reading here?

The US deficit is going to grow massively in the next 4 years if he implements everything he said. And less countries wanting to buy lots of US bonds

The EU will be totally screwed. On orders from their emperor they have been burning bridges with China and others, now their emperor wants to punish them financially. So the EU will be screwed from 2 sides with China starting to push back already

One thing missed on that list is that he said he will declare war on any country that stops using the dollar for international trade.

The idea that the EU will refund the US contribution to Ukraine is possibly the most batshit thing on there. And that's a high bar.

[Niegs]

Better yet, failure to deliver can be blamed on the deep state and establishment elites (which a party that regularly makes up around half of the elected members in both houses and their billionaire backers are totally no part of, no sire) who want the American people, but especially Republican voters, to keep suffering.

This is what really gets me, seeing rural voters blindly follow people who don't help them. I'm from a very working class rural region of Canada that's voted Conservative almost every provincial election (bar two, I think) since WWII. They currently prop up a Conservative provincial gov't that's done next to nothing for them and will blame Federal Liberals for things that aren't entirely in their control while not holding local politicians to account / demanding more.

Just reading about how hard farmers were hit over the last tariff-based trade war, and yet there seem to be a lot of delusional people who think it'll be better this time around?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_adm ... r_bailouts
https://www.reuters.com/markets/us-farm ... 024-11-07/

[Flockwitt]

Wow. Suck into the propaganda more.

Ah. You seem to be missing the point. I’m discussing the reality of what happened. Not some smug ivory tower attitude that’s had its time. Unless people wake up to the idea that the voting patterns have moved the great unwashed will continue to dominate politics while the hand wringers ask for time off to deal with it all.

No, you’re taking an ideological viewpoint and forcing it on to a situation to try to back yourself up.

No. I'm not. I'm pointing out that something that is obvious as the day is long. You can see it here and over at the other place with all the hindsight comments. I'm not saying I know what the solution is. But I can sure as heck state what the problem is. An issue which is as old as the human race - here is the adage of people trying to solve a problem with the same thinking as got them into the problem.

And people need to wake the feck up. Because we better believe what has just happened in the US isn't going to be limited to the US if we carry blythely along the same path.

[Flockwitt]

Wow. Suck into the propaganda more.

Ah. You seem to be missing the point. I’m discussing the reality of what happened. Not some smug ivory tower attitude that’s had its time. Unless people wake up to the idea that the voting patterns have moved the great unwashed will continue to dominate politics while the hand wringers ask for time off to deal with it all.

My friend, you are absolutely 100% being a hand wringer over this.

There is nothing out of the ordinary about heavily invested young people taking a loss badly. It's part of being young.

I see where you're coming from. But if you'll excuse the directness, you need to go have a look in a mirror at your statement. This a prime example of the complete loss of perspective that has overtaken the western nations.

This say versus an orphaned student in Malawai who is grateful just to have somebody zoom into to talk English to them for an hour.

These are the next generation of the ruthless lawyers and tough corporates. And they can't handle a little voting dissappointment?

The poor dears are 'invested'. FFS. They're invested alright - siting in classes that are worth $100,000s a pop.

Then you wonder why some redneck farming lad who has just had his livelyhood wiped out in a hailstorm feels impelled to vote any idiot into power who isn't a hand wringer.

[Flockwitt]

Better yet, failure to deliver can be blamed on the deep state and establishment elites (which a party that regularly makes up around half of the elected members in both houses and their billionaire backers are totally no part of, no sire) who want the American people, but especially Republican voters, to keep suffering.

This is what really gets me, seeing rural voters blindly follow people who don't help them. I'm from a very working class rural region of Canada that's voted Conservative almost every provincial election (bar two, I think) since WWII. They currently prop up a Conservative provincial gov't that's done next to nothing for them and will blame Federal Liberals for things that aren't entirely in their control while not holding local politicians to account / demanding more.

Just reading about how hard farmers were hit over the last tariff-based trade war, and yet there seem to be a lot of delusional people who think it'll be better this time around?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_adm ... r_bailouts
https://www.reuters.com/markets/us-farm ... 024-11-07/

It's not just that Niegs but the tarrifs force the sourcing of alternative supply. Once that starts it doesn't stop. They're killing the trade route to the very market you've put your farms in to feed. It's mind bogglingly stupid. You've only got two choices in an trade imbalance - either block the source which is historically shown never to work. Or push stuff the other way. And the US is now on a path where to spite their face they're now cutting off their nose.

[JM2K6]

Ah. You seem to be missing the point. I’m discussing the reality of what happened. Not some smug ivory tower attitude that’s had its time. Unless people wake up to the idea that the voting patterns have moved the great unwashed will continue to dominate politics while the hand wringers ask for time off to deal with it all.

My friend, you are absolutely 100% being a hand wringer over this.

There is nothing out of the ordinary about heavily invested young people taking a loss badly. It's part of being young.

I see where you're coming from. But if you'll excuse the directness, you need to go have a look in a mirror at your statement. This a prime example of the complete loss of perspective that has overtaken the western nations.

This say versus an orphaned student in Malawai who is grateful just to have somebody zoom into to talk English to them for an hour.

These are the next generation of the ruthless lawyers and tough corporates. And they can't handle a little voting dissappointment?

The poor dears are 'invested'. FFS. They're invested alright - siting in classes that are worth $100,000s a pop.

Then you wonder why some redneck farming lad who has just had his livelyhood wiped out in a hailstorm feels impelled to vote any idiot into power who isn't a hand wringer.

You're being really weird about this, particularly given the absolute meltdown and attempted coup that came from the right wing after the previous election loss. Besides, this isn't even the first time! The same thing happened in 2019 and no one cared! It's just stupid shit to complain about and to draw wildly overblown conclusions from!

Please, be serious.

[Flockwitt]

My friend, you are absolutely 100% being a hand wringer over this.

There is nothing out of the ordinary about heavily invested young people taking a loss badly. It's part of being young.

I see where you're coming from. But if you'll excuse the directness, you need to go have a look in a mirror at your statement. This a prime example of the complete loss of perspective that has overtaken the western nations.

This say versus an orphaned student in Malawai who is grateful just to have somebody zoom into to talk English to them for an hour.

These are the next generation of the ruthless lawyers and tough corporates. And they can't handle a little voting dissappointment?

The poor dears are 'invested'. FFS. They're invested alright - siting in classes that are worth $100,000s a pop.

Then you wonder why some redneck farming lad who has just had his livelyhood wiped out in a hailstorm feels impelled to vote any idiot into power who isn't a hand wringer.

You're being really weird about this, particularly given the absolute meltdown and attempted coup that came from the right wing after the previous election loss. Besides, this isn't even the first time! The same thing happened in 2019 and no one cared! It's just stupid shit to complain about and to draw wildly overblown conclusions from!

Please, be serious.

I disagree with that. Politely disagree. I think there is a case to get concerned and involved with what just went on in the US. There really shouldn't be any way in a properly functioning democracy for a Trump to return to power after his actions, the political issues, and his patently obvious lack of competency. I think the reasons he succeeded are important to understand and the global trends in all Western democracies towards this dichotomy of views in the populace acknowledged.

[JM2K6]

I see where you're coming from. But if you'll excuse the directness, you need to go have a look in a mirror at your statement. This a prime example of the complete loss of perspective that has overtaken the western nations.

This say versus an orphaned student in Malawai who is grateful just to have somebody zoom into to talk English to them for an hour.

These are the next generation of the ruthless lawyers and tough corporates. And they can't handle a little voting dissappointment?

The poor dears are 'invested'. FFS. They're invested alright - siting in classes that are worth $100,000s a pop.

Then you wonder why some redneck farming lad who has just had his livelyhood wiped out in a hailstorm feels impelled to vote any idiot into power who isn't a hand wringer.

You're being really weird about this, particularly given the absolute meltdown and attempted coup that came from the right wing after the previous election loss. Besides, this isn't even the first time! The same thing happened in 2019 and no one cared! It's just stupid shit to complain about and to draw wildly overblown conclusions from!

Please, be serious.

I disagree with that. Politely disagree. I think there is a case to get concerned and involved with what just went on in the US. There really shouldn't be any way in a properly functioning democracy for a Trump to return to power after his actions, the political issues, and his patently obvious lack of competency. I think the reasons he succeeded are important to understand and the global trends in all Western democracies towards this dichotomy of views in the populace acknowledged.

What does this have to do with the rage bait over some students taking a day off

[Biffer]

I see where you're coming from. But if you'll excuse the directness, you need to go have a look in a mirror at your statement. This a prime example of the complete loss of perspective that has overtaken the western nations.

This say versus an orphaned student in Malawai who is grateful just to have somebody zoom into to talk English to them for an hour.

These are the next generation of the ruthless lawyers and tough corporates. And they can't handle a little voting dissappointment?

The poor dears are 'invested'. FFS. They're invested alright - siting in classes that are worth $100,000s a pop.

Then you wonder why some redneck farming lad who has just had his livelyhood wiped out in a hailstorm feels impelled to vote any idiot into power who isn't a hand wringer.

You're being really weird about this, particularly given the absolute meltdown and attempted coup that came from the right wing after the previous election loss. Besides, this isn't even the first time! The same thing happened in 2019 and no one cared! It's just stupid shit to complain about and to draw wildly overblown conclusions from!

Please, be serious.

I disagree with that. Politely disagree. I think there is a case to get concerned and involved with what just went on in the US. There really shouldn't be any way in a properly functioning democracy for a Trump to return to power after his actions, the political issues, and his patently obvious lack of competency. I think the reasons he succeeded are important to understand and the global trends in all Western democracies towards this dichotomy of views in the populace acknowledged.

Yeah, I'd politely agree that you're being quite weird.

[Kiwias]

The day after a convicted rapist wins the presidency, these were seen at the Texas State University (I hope they are fake).

https://x.com/BurntCitrus/status/1854232232283816137

[Biffer]

The day after a convicted rapist wins the presidency, these were seen at the Texas State University (I hope they are fake).

https://x.com/BurntCitrus/status/1854232232283816137

I don't think they are fake

Edit - they're not, given the president of Texas State University has made a public statement condemning them.

[Kiwias]

The day after a convicted rapist wins the presidency, these were seen at the Texas State University (I hope they are fake).

https://x.com/BurntCitrus/status/1854232232283816137

I don't think they are fake

That is so sad.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

The chap in the middle with the beard and his back to the camera has a t-shirt with the slogan 'Biblical Death' across the back. that's either a brave choice for a band name in Texas, or what I might have thought would be a tough sell at the stall during freshers week

[fishfoodie]

My brother lives in a tiny village in Vermont. He went over to central London for the summer and was shocked how cheap things were. IIRC he claimed groceries and eating out was half the price what he pays back in the US.

Food in the UK is very cheap. Certainly cheaper than Western Europe. It's more expensive than it was a few years ago, but is still good value in comparison.

The British supermarket industry is astonishingly efficient, it is noticeable wherever you go that supermarket shops are more expensive overseas

Actually the main British supermarkets are just bigger robbing bastards than the ones in other Counties; just ask British Farmers & suppliers !

[Niegs]

A good chat:

[Flockwitt]

You're being really weird about this, particularly given the absolute meltdown and attempted coup that came from the right wing after the previous election loss. Besides, this isn't even the first time! The same thing happened in 2019 and no one cared! It's just stupid shit to complain about and to draw wildly overblown conclusions from!

Please, be serious.

I disagree with that. Politely disagree. I think there is a case to get concerned and involved with what just went on in the US. There really shouldn't be any way in a properly functioning democracy for a Trump to return to power after his actions, the political issues, and his patently obvious lack of competency. I think the reasons he succeeded are important to understand and the global trends in all Western democracies towards this dichotomy of views in the populace acknowledged.

What does this have to do with the rage bait over some students taking a day off

Because that 'rage bait' that you called it, the 'propoganda' that Biffer called, is actually how the 'other side' sees the reality. That post was only reflecting the comments of people on, in this instance, the Republican side of the arguement. And people who sit there casually dismissing the issues of what is in the US's case a viewpoint held by over 50% of the population are going to continue to be sadly disappointed in the direction politics keeps going.

[JM2K6]

I disagree with that. Politely disagree. I think there is a case to get concerned and involved with what just went on in the US. There really shouldn't be any way in a properly functioning democracy for a Trump to return to power after his actions, the political issues, and his patently obvious lack of competency. I think the reasons he succeeded are important to understand and the global trends in all Western democracies towards this dichotomy of views in the populace acknowledged.

What does this have to do with the rage bait over some students taking a day off

Because that 'rage bait' that you called it, the 'propoganda' that Biffer called, is actually how the 'other side' sees the reality. That post was only reflecting the comments of people on, in this instance, the Republican side of the arguement. And people who sit there casually dismissing the issues of what is in the US's case a viewpoint held by over 50% of the population are going to continue to be sadly disappointed in the direction politics keeps going.

This is a genuinely bizarre conversation and I'll leave you to it

[Conor]

What does this have to do with the rage bait over some students taking a day off

Because that 'rage bait' that you called it, the 'propoganda' that Biffer called, is actually how the 'other side' sees the reality. That post was only reflecting the comments of people on, in this instance, the Republican side of the arguement. And people who sit there casually dismissing the issues of what is in the US's case a viewpoint held by over 50% of the population are going to continue to be sadly disappointed in the direction politics keeps going.

This is a genuinely bizarre conversation and I'll leave you to it

Nothing weird or bizarre about it. The lad has a point.

[JM2K6]

Because that 'rage bait' that you called it, the 'propoganda' that Biffer called, is actually how the 'other side' sees the reality. That post was only reflecting the comments of people on, in this instance, the Republican side of the arguement. And people who sit there casually dismissing the issues of what is in the US's case a viewpoint held by over 50% of the population are going to continue to be sadly disappointed in the direction politics keeps going.

This is a genuinely bizarre conversation and I'll leave you to it

Nothing weird or bizarre about it. The lad has a point.

There is zero overlap between some students getting a day off and the issues surrounding why Trump won (and why the big story is the sheer number of lost votes for the dems, given trump's vote doesn't seem to have increased much from last time out). Perhaps I'm just being dim but this just seems like a completely unrelated nothing story for people to apply their own priors to that bears no relevance or importance to the election or the general voting public on either side. It's the emptiest of empty stories.

[lemonhead]

91. People convicted of selling drugs will receive the death penalty.

92. Pardon convicted drug trafficker Ross Ulbricht (promise to Libertarian Party).

Commute rather than pardon but I'll give them this, they have a sense of humour.

[Tichtheid]

Did Musk influence the result?



If nothing else I like that led by donkeys projected this on the tesla building

[tabascoboy]

And so it begins

GOP will have a substantial majority in the Senate but Trump is demanding that any incoming senate majority leader basically agrees to forgo the chamber’s confirmation powers, so he can appoint whoever he likes for two year slots without the consent of senators.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

It would in truth be no bad thing if an awful lot of roles were not subject to Senate approval. Perhaps the Senate should keep its present power, but they do take far too long, and they've added so many roles it's at least somewhat absurd. That said scrapping all Senate approvals also on the face of it seems daft, for any administration and not just one centred around fantasy and corruption

[Jethro]

Meanwhile in Australia future Fuhrer Dutton is trying out Trump tactics, he needn't bother as the sheep will be voting him in regardless. Inflation and cost of living being completely Labor's fault of course. Waiting for him to decide they are eating the cats and dogs in the Gong!

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-11-11/ ... /104582960

[Biffer]

Carole Cadwalladr. Saying that the broligarchs are intent on bringing disruptor mentality to democracy.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... s-of-power

[Flockwitt]

Trump Jnr. banging on about Zelensky is about to lose his "allowance". Trying to think who is likely the worst of the lot. At least Trump earned his tripe stripes by doing something.

[Niegs]

Street interviews that explain America. Maybe a somewhat benevolent dictatorship suits them?

[Uncle fester]

Make sure your blood pressure is in a good place before you read this.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... dApp_Other

[Flockwitt]

The stench of Miller was always going to float about like a skunk wrapped in stinkweed but as for the rest of it...



... it was inevitable.

Like the tax cut package.

[Flockwitt]

This one regards the military is genuinely dangerous:

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/pu ... 229e&ei=28

[Niegs]

This one regards the military is genuinely dangerous:

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/other/pu ... 229e&ei=28

Read some serving officers/veterans in a reddit thread (I think) talking about this and they all said their first duty is to the Constitution, not the President. I'd like to think someone would have a word before anything truly dictatorial were handed down, or that even a yes-man would flat out refuse to do something like Kent State.

... and he's campaigned on being the President of Peace, so what would he even have them do?

[Kiwias]

How could this go wrong? Let me count the ways.

https://apnews.com/article/trump-hegset ... 2afd40ec72

[Kiwias]

How could this go wrong? Let me count the ways. Fox News host to be nominated as Secretary of Defense

https://apnews.com/article/trump-hegset ... 2afd40ec72

[Slick]

I guess it’s in my nature to give folk a chance and I hoped that for all his campaign bluster he would be a bit more moderate and sensible in power. Also hoped he would be true to form and shaft everyone who helped him. But, no, this is a bit of a nightmare unfolding.

[Biffer]

Musk's efficiency will involve cutiing NASA and NOAA massively ang giving contracts to himself.

[tabascoboy]

[Hal Jordan]

The leopards are going to die of overeating with all the faces they'll be chewing on.

[Kiwias]

Musk's efficiency will involve cutiing NASA and NOAA massively ang giving contracts to himself.

The obvious question is: aren't there rules and regulations in place governing blatant and obvious conflicts of interest?

[Biffer]

Musk's efficiency will involve cutiing NASA and NOAA massively ang giving contracts to himself.

The obvious question is: aren't there rules and regulations in place governing blatant and obvious conflicts of interest?

Even if there are, Trumps previous administration and his previous statements mean they’ll ride over them and carry on regardless. If it’s turns out to be criminal, Trump will pardon everyone and tell them to continue.