NPR

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:23 pm

Blake wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:21 pm While I don't disagree with the red card, Kolbe was so shit out there tonight, him staying on might have actually helped you.

I was being sarcastic. Kolbe had a shocker out there tonight. Worst game ever from him in a green jersey.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:22 pm

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:19 pm It's incredible to watch, it's like all the talent and flair has been coached out of them. I would imagine the back three, Murray, Biggar and all the forwards bar Lawes and Itoje must be in the firing line.

That's precisely what has happened and given Gatland's track record, you expected different?

Not even he would be dumb enough to start Farrell over Biggar though.

Smith or Russell. If you are going down, go down in style.

That was the most depressing game of rugby I’ve ever watched in the most depressing week for the game that has ever happened.

Fuck rugby. I’m done for a bit. Enjoy yourselves

Blake wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:25 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:23 pm

Blake wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:21 pm While I don't disagree with the red card, Kolbe was so shit out there tonight, him staying on might have actually helped you.

I was being sarcastic. Kolbe had a shocker out there tonight. Worst game ever from him in a green jersey.

I think you've misunderstood.

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:26 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:22 pm

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:19 pm It's incredible to watch, it's like all the talent and flair has been coached out of them. I would imagine the back three, Murray, Biggar and all the forwards bar Lawes and Itoje must be in the firing line.

That's precisely what has happened and given Gatland's track record, you expected different?

Not even he would be dumb enough to start Farrell over Biggar though.

Smith or Russell. If you are going down, go down in style.

They will probably pick daly at 10 because he is left footed

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:27 pm That was the most depressing game of rugby I’ve ever watched in the most depressing week for the game that has ever happened.

Fuck rugby. I’m done for a bit. Enjoy yourselves

I'll be skipping next week too. At least NPC starts soon.

While I love Smith it would be a huge ask for him to start the third test.

Gumboot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:21 pm

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:19 pm

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:13 pm Well done SA. After one of the worst halves of rugby I've ever had the misfortune to watch, that was some good shit in the second half.

Gatland's Lions looked clueless, static, inflexible, and scared of playing rugby.

It's incredible to watch, it's like all the talent and flair has been coached out of them. I would imagine the back three, Murray, Biggar and all the forwards bar Lawes and Itoje must be in the firing line.

Yep, heads must roll.

The head that should roll is Gatland’s but of course it won’t, he got that woefully wrong today, you don’t out South Africa South Africa, and in fact their execution allowed them to play the only rugby of the match.

Watch Gats double down now with selection next week.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:28 pm While I love Smith it would be a huge ask for him to start the third test.

Would be a very bad call. He has a great career in prospect and damaging him with this poison would be a waste.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:27 pm

Blake wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:25 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:23 pm

I was being sarcastic. Kolbe had a shocker out there tonight. Worst game ever from him in a green jersey.

I think you've misunderstood.

Very possible, I am 6 beers deep...

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:27 pm That was the most depressing game of rugby I’ve ever watched in the most depressing week for the game that has ever happened.

Fuck rugby. I’m done for a bit. Enjoy yourselves

I'm getting that way myself. The game is turning into a turgid shit show which gets harder and harder to enjoy.

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:31 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:27 pm That was the most depressing game of rugby I’ve ever watched in the most depressing week for the game that has ever happened.

Fuck rugby. I’m done for a bit. Enjoy yourselves

I'm getting that way myself. The game is turning into a turgid shit show which gets harder and harder to enjoy.

There is no way New Zealand or Australia will try to beat the Boks next month by playing the way the Lions did.

I can admire how well SA controlled that game, they bossed it.

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:31 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:27 pm That was the most depressing game of rugby I’ve ever watched in the most depressing week for the game that has ever happened.

Fuck rugby. I’m done for a bit. Enjoy yourselves

I'm getting that way myself. The game is turning into a turgid shit show which gets harder and harder to enjoy.

Not just that. The constant appealing to the ref, diving, winding up the opposition, constant TMO, the whole fucking lot.

Not the sport I grew up with but I hope WR enjoy all the millions of new fans they are attracting at the expense of everything that was good about rugby

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:29 pm

Gumboot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:21 pm

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:19 pm

It's incredible to watch, it's like all the talent and flair has been coached out of them. I would imagine the back three, Murray, Biggar and all the forwards bar Lawes and Itoje must be in the firing line.

Yep, heads must roll.

The head that should roll is Gatland’s but of course it won’t, he got that woefully wrong today, you don’t out South Africa South Africa, and in fact their execution allowed them to play the only rugby of the match.

Watch Gats double down now with selection next week.

Van der Merwe was useless again, so he'll be the first name pencilled in.

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:38 pm

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:31 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:27 pm That was the most depressing game of rugby I’ve ever watched in the most depressing week for the game that has ever happened.

Fuck rugby. I’m done for a bit. Enjoy yourselves

I'm getting that way myself. The game is turning into a turgid shit show which gets harder and harder to enjoy.

Not just that. The constant appealing to the ref, diving, winding up the opposition, constant TMO, the whole fucking lot.

Not the sport I grew up with but I hope WR enjoy all the millions of new fans they are attracting at the expense of everything that was good about rugby

Did you not enjoy how Quins won the Prem? The way Glasgow play, Toulouse and Racing likewise?
The Kiwis are playing high tempo high skill rugby, France are rediscovering their flair.. there is lots to enjoy imo.

That performance from the Lions was terrible, anti rugby and I’m quite happy they lost because of it, but credit to SA, they were worthy winners

Gumboot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:39 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:29 pm

Gumboot wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:21 pm

Yep, heads must roll.

The head that should roll is Gatland’s but of course it won’t, he got that woefully wrong today, you don’t out South Africa South Africa, and in fact their execution allowed them to play the only rugby of the match.

Watch Gats double down now with selection next week.

Van der Merwe was useless again, so he'll be the first name pencilled in.

He is there because he was the best winger in the 6N but he is not an all rounder, his strength is with ball in hand, I think I saw him carry the ball once and with about three defenders on him immediately

WTF happened to the Lions lineout in the last 20? They refused to contest any of them.

RASSIE! RASSIE!

Sjoe, thanks for highlighting that SorC. Disgraceful pictures.

Will Itoje be cited for taking the knee on De Allende's throat?

Who wouldn't want to tuck into some lean South African beef?

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:02 pm Who wouldn't want to tuck into some lean South African beef?

*prime South African Willie

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:42 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:38 pm

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:31 pm

I'm getting that way myself. The game is turning into a turgid shit show which gets harder and harder to enjoy.

Not just that. The constant appealing to the ref, diving, winding up the opposition, constant TMO, the whole fucking lot.

Not the sport I grew up with but I hope WR enjoy all the millions of new fans they are attracting at the expense of everything that was good about rugby

Did you not enjoy how Quins won the Prem? The way Glasgow play, Toulouse and Racing likewise?
The Kiwis are playing high tempo high skill rugby, France are rediscovering their flair.. there is lots to enjoy imo.

That performance from the Lions was terrible, anti rugby and I’m quite happy they lost because of it, but credit to SA, they were worthy winners

This in spades! Lions were hopeless tonight and played absolutely no rugby, they got what they deserved. It was always on the cards with the selections Gatland made. Did the Lions actually get the ball beyond Henshaw at any time in the match? Did they even get it to Henshaw? I don't think one player gained a pass mark - perhaps Furlong and Henshaw? Front 5 struggled, back row got gubbed, half backs glacial, centres never used and back 3 never saw any ball in attack and just fielded, badly, high balls all night long. Subs were even worse when they came on but to be fair they were sent on when the team was in retreat and couldn't shore it up.

SA got their tactics and subs spot on, bringing on their stronger front row and De Jaeger to solidify line out was deciding factor. Once they had won the forward battle and win the penalties then they could get further up field and execute kicks into the Lions 22, bring a strong chase and put them under pressure.

Lions did their best work in first test when attacking wider and through multi phase playing stretching the SA defence, why Gatland decided to revert back to his old style Gatlandball is a feckin mystery. It will be interesting to see what he does for final test, I suspect he will just dig in deeper and it won't work.

We also need to stop the football style feigning injury - Biggar did in when there was the first stushie when someone ran into his back and he went down like a sack of tatties only to bounce up when penalty was awarded and Kolbe got YC.. Murray did same in 2nd half after the tackle from De Clerk trying to win a penalty. Disgraceful.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:42 pm
I’m quite happy they lost

Whilst it was turgid, dire stuff, I'm not happy they lost in the slightest

Shit game. Horrendous game plan from the Lions, coming off second best against the tried and tested Boks plan.

More creativity at 10 and speed at 9 needed next week, and a game plan that includes numbers 11-15.

Jock42 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:15 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:42 pm
I’m quite happy they lost

Whilst it was turgid, dire stuff, I'm not happy they lost in the slightest

If it means they change tactics for the final test then it was worth it, but I'm not sure Gats is the man to admit he got it wrong

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:18 pm

Jock42 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:15 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:42 pm
I’m quite happy they lost

Whilst it was turgid, dire stuff, I'm not happy they lost in the slightest

If it means they change tactics for the final test then it was worth it, but I'm not sure Gats is the man to admit he got it wrong

Only if they win by a shit load.

And Finntastic orchestrates it all.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:28 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:27 pm That was the most depressing game of rugby I’ve ever watched in the most depressing week for the game that has ever happened.

Fuck rugby. I’m done for a bit. Enjoy yourselves

I'll be skipping next week too. At least NPC starts soon.

Is it on sky this year? Or gone the way of rugby pass?

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:18 pm

Jock42 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:15 pm

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:42 pm
I’m quite happy they lost

Whilst it was turgid, dire stuff, I'm not happy they lost in the slightest

If it means they change tactics for the final test then it was worth it, but I'm not sure Gats is the man to admit he got it wrong

He dropped BOD and would say the 3rd test was quite a bit different in Aus.

sorCrer wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:54 pm WTF happened to the Lions lineout in the last 20? They refused to contest any of them.

Including their own ones.

Was it Rory Best coming on, plus the 3 locks on SA side.

Lemoentjie wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:59 pm Sjoe, thanks for highlighting that SorC. Disgraceful pictures.

Will Itoje be cited for taking the knee on De Allende's throat?

Well done SA. Worthy winners today. The Lions were awful. The only player to get pass marks today was Furlong. Maybe Henshaw and Biggar could scrape through. Everyone else was poor at best.

Not sure what Gatland does for the third Test now. He needs to change the game plan, and then pick the players to execute it, but I suspect he can’t, and we’ll see more or less the same side with a couple of players sacrificed.

Aye in all the depression I've forgot to give my congratulations. Well done SA.

Jock42 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:46 pm Aye in all the depression I've forgot to give my congratulations. Well done SA.

Yr Alban wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:45 pm Well done SA. Worthy winners today. The Lions were awful. The only player to get pass marks today was Furlong. Maybe Henshaw and Biggar could scrape through. Everyone else was poor at best.

Not sure what Gatland does for the third Test now. He needs to change the game plan, and then pick the players to execute it, but I suspect he can’t, and we’ll see more or less the same side with a couple of players sacrificed.

Ta.

Last week I was driving what should have been 6 hours to Cornwall, it turned into 9 hours.
Today it was a 6 hour drive and had the miss-fortune to arrive in time for the game.

What a pile of sh1te. Can’t think of any game in the recent Euro football that was of lower entertainment value. When did the new rule of the number 10 not being allowed to pass come into force. Pains me to say it but please our NZ spiritual guardians need to save us.

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:38 pm

Blackmac wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:31 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:27 pm That was the most depressing game of rugby I’ve ever watched in the most depressing week for the game that has ever happened.

Fuck rugby. I’m done for a bit. Enjoy yourselves

I'm getting that way myself. The game is turning into a turgid shit show which gets harder and harder to enjoy.

Not just that. The constant appealing to the ref, diving, winding up the opposition, constant TMO, the whole fucking lot.

Not the sport I grew up with but I hope WR enjoy all the millions of new fans they are attracting at the expense of everything that was good about rugby

Yep. The game is a shitshow. Fuckin mingin.

Watching the replay.

Biggar is such a fucking Diva at the Kolbe yellow card.

Fuck me he is almost embarrassing as Itoje after he he BLM'ed the Bok.

Chilli wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:16 pm Watching the replay.

Biggar is such a fucking Diva at the Kolbe yellow card.

Fuck me he is almost embarrassing as Itoje after he he BLM'ed the Bok.

Itoje could be in trouble via the citing commissioner for that.

Biggar is prone to the sniper in the stands right enough, that and moaning his face off at refs

Kolbe should have seen red, though, it was his second yellowable offence, he got lucky

Ymx wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 7:30 pm

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:28 pm

Slick wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 6:27 pm That was the most depressing game of rugby I’ve ever watched in the most depressing week for the game that has ever happened.

Fuck rugby. I’m done for a bit. Enjoy yourselves

I'll be skipping next week too. At least NPC starts soon.

Is it on sky this year? Or gone the way of rugby pass?

Good question. I assumed Sky because it costs them nothing. I'm screwed if not

Chilli wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 8:16 pm Watching the replay.

Biggar is such a fucking Diva at the Kolbe yellow card.

Fuck me he is almost embarrassing as Itoje after he he BLM'ed the Bok.

I think Itoje misunderstood the message behind taking the knee!