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You didnt watch Wolf Hall did you?Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:51 pmDon’t I feel like a total idiotBrazil wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:51 pmThomas CromwellPaddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 5:27 pm
I’ve endured some howling Oliver Cromwell takes in silence in my time, but I draw the line at claiming the man ran the Protectorate on Big Macs and cocaine
Only a little. The likes of Stephen Miller, the far right weirdos from the PayPal mafia, Steve Bannon, the religious crazies, etc are all very much gearing up to turn the US into a hellhole of their design. Things like Project 2025 show they're serious about this, along with the insane executive orders we've seen.Slick wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:38 pmThis is a bit mental matedpedin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:06 pm Trump is a front man designed to deflect, confuse and set a ridiculous extreme agenda whilst the 'clever' guys beaver away in the background asset stripping the US and making a very small group of people very very rich. He is willing to do whatever his paymasters tell him as long as there is an endless supply of golf, coke (both varieties), drugs, young women, Big Macs, diapers, everything painted in lurid gold paint and money, lots of money! Like every dictator he need lots of people telling him how big and powerful he is but sooner or later every trusted henchman will fall foul of his temper and become an enemy.
Think Henry VIII, Cromwell and Wolf Hall series as an example of how the White House is being run and you won't be far off, the parallels are many!
More worryingly there is also a strongly influential cohort of quasi religious, radical, right wing, idealogically driven extremists, such as Stephen Miller, who want the US to be run under their own religious version of Sharia Law where women are subjugated, the poor and ill are deemed worthless and put into destitution, anyone non white/aryan are sub human, threats and coercion is the only means to an end and armed force is used against their enemies including their own population if required. These guys really really worry me!
NutterJM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:56 pmOnly a little. The likes of Stephen Miller, the far right weirdos from the PayPal mafia, Steve Bannon, the religious crazies, etc are all very much gearing up to turn the US into a hellhole of their design. Things like Project 2025 show they're serious about this, along with the insane executive orders we've seen.Slick wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 4:38 pmThis is a bit mental matedpedin wrote: ↑Wed Jan 29, 2025 3:06 pm Trump is a front man designed to deflect, confuse and set a ridiculous extreme agenda whilst the 'clever' guys beaver away in the background asset stripping the US and making a very small group of people very very rich. He is willing to do whatever his paymasters tell him as long as there is an endless supply of golf, coke (both varieties), drugs, young women, Big Macs, diapers, everything painted in lurid gold paint and money, lots of money! Like every dictator he need lots of people telling him how big and powerful he is but sooner or later every trusted henchman will fall foul of his temper and become an enemy.
Think Henry VIII, Cromwell and Wolf Hall series as an example of how the White House is being run and you won't be far off, the parallels are many!
More worryingly there is also a strongly influential cohort of quasi religious, radical, right wing, idealogically driven extremists, such as Stephen Miller, who want the US to be run under their own religious version of Sharia Law where women are subjugated, the poor and ill are deemed worthless and put into destitution, anyone non white/aryan are sub human, threats and coercion is the only means to an end and armed force is used against their enemies including their own population if required. These guys really really worry me!
It is really difficult to talk about the extent of how fucked this all is without sounding nuts, but...
Project 2025 - tell me again I’m nuts?Slick wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:08 pmNutterJM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:56 pmOnly a little. The likes of Stephen Miller, the far right weirdos from the PayPal mafia, Steve Bannon, the religious crazies, etc are all very much gearing up to turn the US into a hellhole of their design. Things like Project 2025 show they're serious about this, along with the insane executive orders we've seen.
It is really difficult to talk about the extent of how fucked this all is without sounding nuts, but...
Their pronatalist beliefs aren't just about more shagging, y'know. These creeps really do believe they're in an existential war against the mongrel hordes, that white people are under threat, and that technocracy (ruled by them, of course) is the future for mankind.Slick wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:08 pmNutterJM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:56 pmOnly a little. The likes of Stephen Miller, the far right weirdos from the PayPal mafia, Steve Bannon, the religious crazies, etc are all very much gearing up to turn the US into a hellhole of their design. Things like Project 2025 show they're serious about this, along with the insane executive orders we've seen.
It is really difficult to talk about the extent of how fucked this all is without sounding nuts, but...
You may be in for a shock in the next few years.Slick wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:08 pmNutterJM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:56 pmOnly a little. The likes of Stephen Miller, the far right weirdos from the PayPal mafia, Steve Bannon, the religious crazies, etc are all very much gearing up to turn the US into a hellhole of their design. Things like Project 2025 show they're serious about this, along with the insane executive orders we've seen.
It is really difficult to talk about the extent of how fucked this all is without sounding nuts, but...
I find Peter Theil very sinister.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:18 pmTheir pronatalist beliefs aren't just about more shagging, y'know. These creeps really do believe they're in an existential war against the mongrel hordes, that white people are under threat, and that technocracy (ruled by them, of course) is the future for mankind.Slick wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 10:08 pmNutterJM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 30, 2025 9:56 pm
Only a little. The likes of Stephen Miller, the far right weirdos from the PayPal mafia, Steve Bannon, the religious crazies, etc are all very much gearing up to turn the US into a hellhole of their design. Things like Project 2025 show they're serious about this, along with the insane executive orders we've seen.
It is really difficult to talk about the extent of how fucked this all is without sounding nuts, but...
Silicon Valley is insane. Add in the religious fundamentalists and those Republicans still fighting the civil war, and you've got a lot of crazy working to turn trump's presidency into epochal change. And this time they know how to play him, I fear.
You might find this a fun read: https://bellacaledonia.org.uk/2024/11/1 ... -and-musk/
In a normal world, going to prison should be corrective and reformative.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:27 am Yeah, anyone who thinks what Dpedin and JMK said is nuts simply hasn't been paying attention.
In other news, with Trump having dribbled on about other countries emptying their jails into the US, I've already seen 5 or 6 headlines about pardoned Jan 6th insurrectionists getting into trouble with the law again.
Ranging from solicting a minor (a teenage boy btw, which seems fairly typical for the party that screeches so much abotu homosexuals and pedophiles) to being shot dead by the police.
Trump is a useful idiot who serves the role of sowing chaos and stirring up emotions to a height that people miss the cabal of evil bastards behind him who are pushing through with Project 2025 as fast as they can. I'm with Dpedin and JMK on this one.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:27 am Yeah, anyone who thinks what Dpedin and JMK said is nuts simply hasn't been paying attention.
I heard the shenanigans of the released prisoners described as the equivalent of Final Destination for pardoned jailbirds.inactionman wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 10:18 amIn a normal world, going to prison should be corrective and reformative.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 9:27 am Yeah, anyone who thinks what Dpedin and JMK said is nuts simply hasn't been paying attention.
In other news, with Trump having dribbled on about other countries emptying their jails into the US, I've already seen 5 or 6 headlines about pardoned Jan 6th insurrectionists getting into trouble with the law again.
Ranging from solicting a minor (a teenage boy btw, which seems fairly typical for the party that screeches so much abotu homosexuals and pedophiles) to being shot dead by the police.
You'd always worry that their release and relative martyrdom will embolden them, both to repeat their idiocy and to ever more ridiculous behaviour.
They've been doing this already to an extent.tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:56 pm Wait, what? Is this with or without consent of the Mexico Government ( I assume it's about Cartel strongholds anyway not just random cross border shit)
Season 2 of Lioness.Uncle fester wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 8:13 pmThey've been doing this already to an extent.tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 5:56 pm Wait, what? Is this with or without consent of the Mexico Government ( I assume it's about Cartel strongholds anyway not just random cross border shit)
This is the lad who thinks that adults should get votes based on the number of children they have.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 31, 2025 11:22 pm I see the Deeply Impressive Great Communicator, JD Vance, has been embarrassing himself with some bonkers take over the concept of "Love Thy Neighbour" and managed to make a dick of himself in a spat with Rory Stewart, of all things.
Gosh, can't imagine what it says about people when they find JD Vance impressive and reckon Musk doesn't interfere in other country's politics!
Was going to post it. Bonkers, isn't it.Raggs wrote: ↑Sat Feb 01, 2025 1:51 pm So it's now been declared illegal for public officials to vote for laws that may be considered sanctuary laws (think I've got the details right there). This is in Tennessee. Can come with a fine and upto 6 years in jail.
https://tennesseelookout.com/2025/01/29 ... y-suspect/
So quite literally illegal for democratically elected officials to democratically decide how their state etc is run...
Obviously there's questions on whether this is legal, but the very fact it's been included is stunning on its own.
And buried down the end.Oxbow wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2025 1:59 pm This all seems perfectly normal.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgkj8gx1vy6o
Meanwhile, the Trump administration has fired a group of prosecutors assigned to investigate the US Capitol riot, and also demanded the names of FBI agents involved in those same inquiries, according to CBS News, the BBC's US partner.
I'd already seen reports that those involved in the investigation were expecting to be fired.Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2025 2:41 pmAnd buried down the end.Oxbow wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2025 1:59 pm This all seems perfectly normal.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgkj8gx1vy6o
Meanwhile, the Trump administration has fired a group of prosecutors assigned to investigate the US Capitol riot, and also demanded the names of FBI agents involved in those same inquiries, according to CBS News, the BBC's US partner.
I needed a little time to process just how evil the erasure of info about mpox is.Raggs wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2025 3:26 pmI'd already seen reports that those involved in the investigation were expecting to be fired.Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2025 2:41 pmAnd buried down the end.Oxbow wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2025 1:59 pm This all seems perfectly normal.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cgkj8gx1vy6o
Meanwhile, the Trump administration has fired a group of prosecutors assigned to investigate the US Capitol riot, and also demanded the names of FBI agents involved in those same inquiries, according to CBS News, the BBC's US partner.
Surely people can see how this goes so far beyond the usual 2 party system of throwing out a few policies from the previous group etc.
I wonder how other world leaders are talking about this to each other at the moment. I'd love to be a fly on the wall. Last time there's clips and hints of them finding him a clown, that needs to be managed, this time it's got to be a whole lot more serious.
The lunatics have now taken over the asylum, albeit rich racist lunatics. It is becoming very, very scary and serious and for those who just laughed at Trump or thought him and his henchmen were idiots should now be shitting themselves. Musk via Doge, whatever the feck that is, have now accessed the US Treasury payment systems etc and publishing on X all sort of confidential info which is illegal and are suggesting they are/will cut off funding to all sorts of Gov agencies. We are witnessing the complete disregard of Governmental and legal norms and the potential breakdown of US democracy. Trump now suggesting there will be 'pain' for the US citizens but this will be worth - aye right! Trump himself is now breaking trade agreements with the likes of Canada he himself signed when last in power - the US are quickly becoming an international pariah, who the feck is going to trust them now, who wants to deal with them?Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2025 4:21 pmI needed a little time to process just how evil the erasure of info about mpox is.Raggs wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2025 3:26 pmI'd already seen reports that those involved in the investigation were expecting to be fired.
Surely people can see how this goes so far beyond the usual 2 party system of throwing out a few policies from the previous group etc.
I wonder how other world leaders are talking about this to each other at the moment. I'd love to be a fly on the wall. Last time there's clips and hints of them finding him a clown, that needs to be managed, this time it's got to be a whole lot more serious.
They WANT gay people to get sick and die, thus leaving the rest living in fear.
This is America folks.
I'm not entirely sure but one thing that did occur to me is that it is part of an overarching desire to make the world more nationalist in orientation versus globalist.Flockwitt wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2025 5:25 pm I still don't get Trump's tarrifs. If his previous free trade deal with Canada and Mexico was the biggly bestest eva, why does he now need to go out and trash it? I mean he trashed everybody else's trade deals because they were trash and he was going to put in better ones. But now he's trashing his own deal? Sounds like a man perhaps you can't actually trust.
They'll end up winding the clock back to feudalism instead.Hugo wrote: ↑Sun Feb 02, 2025 6:19 pm This time in history does have some approximation to late 19th and early 20th century Mexico.
During the Porfiriato Mexico underwent a period of rapid industrialisation and modernisation but it's new found wealth went primarily into the hands of foreign investors and an microscopically small set of wealthy Mexicans. The average Mexican did not benefit at all. Hence the Mexican revolution.
Similarly, globalisation has benefitted a certain class of people but has also created a scenario where many people (or rather, their kids) are relatively worse off than they were in say, 1990. This whole America first, MAGA culture is a response to that and I think it is going to spawn a lot of copycats as politicians are under pressure to deliver for their constituents and compatriots rather than for people living thousands of miles away. Basically localism.
Not saying I agree with the MAGA movement but I think I grasp why it has gained traction.