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JM2K6 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:56 am

ia801310 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:40 am Great news for the Tory party. They don't fear Starmer, they do fear Nandy, Streeting, Philipson

Starmer gives them very little ammo, so this news is terrible for the Tories who banked so much on this. Must admit I was struggling to see how the right wingers would spin "no case to answer" as being good for the Tories / bad for Labour, so it's good to get that answered.

They will go for him on his support for a second referendum and the fact he campaigned to put Corbyn in No 10.

Is more about the Lebedev liaison coming to light, or is older news still being regurgitated? That really needs to be a mighty last nail in the coffin - for all that diehard Tories still trying to distract from the current shitshow

ia801310 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:58 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:56 am

ia801310 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:40 am Great news for the Tory party. They don't fear Starmer, they do fear Nandy, Streeting, Philipson

Starmer gives them very little ammo, so this news is terrible for the Tories who banked so much on this. Must admit I was struggling to see how the right wingers would spin "no case to answer" as being good for the Tories / bad for Labour, so it's good to get that answered.

They will go for him on his support for a second referendum and the fact he campaigned to put Corbyn in No 10.

The referendum is exactly what Starmer's ensured cannot be used against him, you're barking if you think that'll get any traction.

As for campaigning to put Corbyn in No 10, can you explain to me which voters who might be persuaded to vote anyone other than Tory would see "campaigned for his party to try and win an election" as a negative? It's a useless Boris-level idiot line with no substance. And it can be immediately used against the Tories for their support for Boris Johnson, who actually WAS in number 10 and soiled himself and his party.

The Tories are going to have to actually find something of substance to hit Starmer with, and that's tricky partly because he's steered clear of anything controverisal - which frustrates me as I'd much rather he stuck his neck out and risked pissing off some of that 'red wall' in order to fight for something substantial. If they try this playground shit they'll just get humiliated even further.

ia801310 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:58 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:56 am

ia801310 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:40 am Great news for the Tory party. They don't fear Starmer, they do fear Nandy, Streeting, Philipson

Starmer gives them very little ammo, so this news is terrible for the Tories who banked so much on this. Must admit I was struggling to see how the right wingers would spin "no case to answer" as being good for the Tories / bad for Labour, so it's good to get that answered.

They will go for him on his support for a second referendum and the fact he campaigned to put Corbyn in No 10.

Hard to see how loyalty to a dire party leader would be turned around on them. Solid strategy

ia801310 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:58 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:56 am

ia801310 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:40 am Great news for the Tory party. They don't fear Starmer, they do fear Nandy, Streeting, Philipson

Starmer gives them very little ammo, so this news is terrible for the Tories who banked so much on this. Must admit I was struggling to see how the right wingers would spin "no case to answer" as being good for the Tories / bad for Labour, so it's good to get that answered.

They will go for him on his support for a second referendum and the fact he campaigned to put Corbyn in No 10.

I don’t think anyone but rabid…remain……s….er not sure what they stand for any more…., give a damn about that any more. Cost of living, trust (amazingly, that’s what did for tories last time), desire for change. Things are different this time though unless Scottish voters turn away from the SNP using the next GE as an unofficial referendum. Basically Labour need to win England. Done before but complicates it.

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:02 pm Is more about the Lebedev liaison coming to light, or is older news still being regurgitated? That really needs to be a mighty last nail in the coffin - for all that diehard Tories still trying to distract from the current shitshow

Hopefully whoever gets in feels a need to stake the heart and burn the corpse and so releases the security services report that was promised and then reneged on.

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:39 am

Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:19 am
And of course it will all have to be ripped out as soon as the new incumbent is installed, as the whole lot is unspeakably ghastly.

It's horrific

When I first saw the photos I thought it was a joke. It’s eye-bleedingly, migraine-inducingly awful.

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:39 am

Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:19 am
And of course it will all have to be ripped out as soon as the new incumbent is installed, as the whole lot is unspeakably ghastly.

It's horrific

Holy shit. Her taste in soft furnishings is almost as bad as her taste in men.

Sir Keir Starmer cleared by police over Durham lockdown beers

That's one of Bojo's joker cards up in flames.

Tichtheid wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:54 am I agree with the thoughts above that Johnson will have convinced himself that this is something he can come back from, hence the staying put, but it isn't going to happen.


I wonder if Baker is the canary sent out to test the air by the ERG loons?

Paterson is gone, Rees Mogg is an entirely invented creature who will know he cannot be PM, but they will still want that direction of travel.

Baker's out there as smoke signals that the ERG/Fuck the environment cunts will go en bloc with anyone who panders to their fuckwitted ideology.

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:29 pm Sir Keir Starmer cleared by police over Durham lockdown beers

That's one of Bojo's joker cards up in flames.

no no no, it's a good thing for the Tories don't you know (see above)

Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:14 pm

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:39 am

Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:19 am
And of course it will all have to be ripped out as soon as the new incumbent is installed, as the whole lot is unspeakably ghastly.

It's horrific

When I first saw the photos I thought it was a joke. It’s eye-bleedingly, migraine-inducingly awful.

I could live with the carpet as a statement piece, provided the rest of it was neutral walls and a single colour sofa.

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:39 pm

Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:14 pm

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:39 am

It's horrific

When I first saw the photos I thought it was a joke. It’s eye-bleedingly, migraine-inducingly awful.

I could live with the carpet as a statement piece, provided the rest of it was neutral walls and a single colour sofa.

Melania trump approves but would like to add some trees.

Wrinkles wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:15 pm

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:39 am

Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 10:19 am
And of course it will all have to be ripped out as soon as the new incumbent is installed, as the whole lot is unspeakably ghastly.

It's horrific

Holy shit. Her taste in soft furnishings is almost as bad as her taste in men.

It’s an odd collection of art. Or is the right word eclectic?

EnergiseR2 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:08 pm Abe's death reminds us that leaders like Boris come along once in a lifetime. Its time to back him again boys

Abe was a corrupt right wing nutjob a very divisive individual from a political dynasty.
Sad end to his life though.

ia801310 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:58 am

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:56 am

ia801310 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 11:40 am Great news for the Tory party. They don't fear Starmer, they do fear Nandy, Streeting, Philipson

Starmer gives them very little ammo, so this news is terrible for the Tories who banked so much on this. Must admit I was struggling to see how the right wingers would spin "no case to answer" as being good for the Tories / bad for Labour, so it's good to get that answered.

They will go for him on his support for a second referendum and the fact he campaigned to put Corbyn in No 10.

Keep clutching at straws sunshine!!
We haven't finished with all the Johnson scandals yet, particulalryu as he plans on hanging around for a couple of more months

sturginho wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:34 pm

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:29 pm Sir Keir Starmer cleared by police over Durham lockdown beers

That's one of Bojo's joker cards up in flames.

no no no, it's a good thing for the Tories don't you know (see above)

I'd be having a quite word with the senior Police Officer who instigated this bullshit, investigation, & would let them know their card was well & truly marked !

You expect this kind of politically inspired shite in the US, but the UK Police are supposed to be apolitical.

I think the UK has had enough of so called Charismatic leaders.
Just like Trump, Boris has turned the voters off completely.
Changing the leader will mean nothing if the guys that turned a blind eye and supported Boris throughout his excesses are still in Government.
They are all complicit and the Public should remember that they are as guilty as Boris.

C69 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:47 pm I think the UK has had enough of so called Charismatic leaders.
Just like Trump, Boris has turned the voters off completely.
Changing the leader will mean nothing if the guys that turned a blind eye and supported Boris throughout his excesses are still in Government.
They are all complicit and the Public should remember that they are as guilty as Boris.

Yep, hopefully the stink of this will stick to all his enablers. Everyone knew what Boris was before he took power, but they were fine with it whilst it benefitted them. No one can really claim to have been blindsided by his dishonesty and poor character after becoming PM with a straight face.

Margin__Walker wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:52 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:47 pm I think the UK has had enough of so called Charismatic leaders.
Just like Trump, Boris has turned the voters off completely.
Changing the leader will mean nothing if the guys that turned a blind eye and supported Boris throughout his excesses are still in Government.
They are all complicit and the Public should remember that they are as guilty as Boris.

Yep, hopefully the stink of this will stick to all his enablers. Everyone knew what Boris was before he took power, but they were fine with it whilst it benefitted them. No one can really claim to have been blindsided by his dishonesty and poor character after becoming PM with a straight face.

I can just about understand them going for him as a short-term break the Brexit logjam PM but he was never going to take them job on those terms.

Did he put this together in just 2 days? Bet he's been planning ahead

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:27 pm

sturginho wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:34 pm

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:29 pm Sir Keir Starmer cleared by police over Durham lockdown beers

That's one of Bojo's joker cards up in flames.

no no no, it's a good thing for the Tories don't you know (see above)

I'd be having a quite word with the senior Police Officer who instigated this bullshit, investigation, & would let them know their card was well & truly marked !

You expect this kind of politically inspired shite in the US, but the UK Police are supposed to be apolitical.

Michael Fabricant and the Daily Mail not at all happy and think that the local plod were knobbled!!!

I am surprised how Durham police decided not to fine Starmer and Rayner.

Many people will think that, as a QC and a lawyer, Starmer wormed his way out of a conviction while, in effect, blackmailing Durham police by saying: “You’ll be bringing down the leader of the opposition if you fine me”.

Many regular people will feel this is another Establishment stitch-up.’

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:33 pm Did he put this together in just 2 days? Bet he's been planning ahead

Rebuild the economy?
Wtaf have you been doing as a Minister ffs

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:33 pm Did he put this together in just 2 days? Bet he's been planning ahead

Christ he's as smooth as a bucket of shit!!!
Not sure any of the potential candodates can "unite" or "heal" the Conservbative party

C69 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:35 pm
Rebuild the economy?
Wtaf have you been doing as a Minister ffs

Quite. So what he's saying is he f**ked the economy on his watch then.

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:49 pm

C69 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:35 pm
Rebuild the economy?
Wtaf have you been doing as a Minister ffs

Quite. So what he's saying is he f**ked the economy on his watch then.

At least he didn't say he'd crack down on tax evaders....

C69 wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:35 pm

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:33 pm Did he put this together in just 2 days? Bet he's been planning ahead

Rebuild the economy?
Wtaf have you been doing as a Minister ffs

Be fair now, I'm sure that the financial management of all those lucrative COVID related contracts to Tory mates for no quantifiable benefit to us plebs was a very time consuming priority.

Quick out of the blocks

SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 3:33 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:27 pm

sturginho wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:34 pm

no no no, it's a good thing for the Tories don't you know (see above)

I'd be having a quite word with the senior Police Officer who instigated this bullshit, investigation, & would let them know their card was well & truly marked !

You expect this kind of politically inspired shite in the US, but the UK Police are supposed to be apolitical.

Michael Fabricant and the Daily Mail not at all happy and think that the local plod were knobbled!!!

I am surprised how Durham police decided not to fine Starmer and Rayner.

Many people will think that, as a QC and a lawyer, Starmer wormed his way out of a conviction while, in effect, blackmailing Durham police by saying: “You’ll be bringing down the leader of the opposition if you fine me”.

Many regular people will feel this is another Establishment stitch-up.’

Keep digging Michael.

Extracted quote from https://fullfact.org/news/did-Boris-Johnson-resign/

Seems to be no special reason why the leadership contest should last as long as "until autumn". Come on Tories, get your asses in gear and get this done

Mr Cameron’s resignation on 24 June 2016 saw him initially commit to staying in post as Prime Minister for the following three months. In actual fact, Mr Cameron was replaced as Prime Minister less than one month later, following a shorter-than-expected Conservative leadership contest which concluded on 11 July with Ms May elected as the sole-remaining candidate.

Neither Mr Cameron nor Mr Johnson explicitly said the word “resign” in their initial announcements, though Ms May did.

Fuck me! They've scraped the bottom of the barrel and found this

Peter Bone MP to be Deputy Leader of the House of Commons.

Ms GL had just come out with The Madness of King Boris. It would be interesting to know what boost, if any, it gives to Bone’s pay and pension.

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:32 pm Extracted quote from https://fullfact.org/news/did-Boris-Johnson-resign/

Seems to be no special reason why the leadership contest should last as long as "until autumn". Come on Tories, get your asses in gear and get this done

Mr Cameron’s resignation on 24 June 2016 saw him initially commit to staying in post as Prime Minister for the following three months. In actual fact, Mr Cameron was replaced as Prime Minister less than one month later, following a shorter-than-expected Conservative leadership contest which concluded on 11 July with Ms May elected as the sole-remaining candidate.

Neither Mr Cameron nor Mr Johnson explicitly said the word “resign” in their initial announcements, though Ms May did.

Aren't they all about to go on their well earned holidays?

Thank God British PMs don’t have the right to issue pardons when they leave office.

Hal Jordan wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:59 pm

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 4:32 pm Extracted quote from https://fullfact.org/news/did-Boris-Johnson-resign/

Seems to be no special reason why the leadership contest should last as long as "until autumn". Come on Tories, get your asses in gear and get this done

Mr Cameron’s resignation on 24 June 2016 saw him initially commit to staying in post as Prime Minister for the following three months. In actual fact, Mr Cameron was replaced as Prime Minister less than one month later, following a shorter-than-expected Conservative leadership contest which concluded on 11 July with Ms May elected as the sole-remaining candidate.

Neither Mr Cameron nor Mr Johnson explicitly said the word “resign” in their initial announcements, though Ms May did.

Aren't they all about to go on their well earned holidays?

I expect to them that's far more important than the smooth running of Government and sorting out this clusterfuck

Someone will do this for real...

So, Johnson's parting honours list?

Lord Dacre, obviously.

Sir Jacob Rees-Mogg.

Dame Corinne Stockwell?

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Jul 08, 2022 5:24 pm Someone will do this for real...

#GoNads

Interesting that half the tory cabinet withheld their Labour to bring about change in their work place...but when the Working Classes and others do it they are considered the enemy within to be eviserated by every right wing dog in the land.

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/jol ... -it-again-

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... an-PM.html

Love this quote

"Do us all a favour and stick to murdering urban fauna and separating left-wing fools from their money."