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TB63 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:51 am

Enzedder wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 2:37 am

Hong Kong wrote: ↑Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:09 am I’m getting the BioNTech vaccination: first on 31 March, 2nd on 21 April

Can I have your porn collection?

You've not got enough time left on this earth to go through them all..

Biffer wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:20 pm EMA says AZ vaccine is safe and effective

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-56440139

dpedin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:14 pm Jabbed today in Embra - at the old RBS building at the Gyle. AZ vaccine. In and out in 15 mins including waiting to see if I died after the jab. Easy peasy!

laurent wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:32 pm

dpedin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:14 pm Jabbed today in Embra - at the old RBS building at the Gyle. AZ vaccine. In and out in 15 mins including waiting to see if I died after the jab. Easy peasy!

But is your 5G reception improved Now ?

SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:44 pm

laurent wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:32 pm

dpedin wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 5:14 pm Jabbed today in Embra - at the old RBS building at the Gyle. AZ vaccine. In and out in 15 mins including waiting to see if I died after the jab. Easy peasy!

But is your 5G reception improved Now ?

No, but Bill Gates can now get directly in touch!

AstraZeneca: UK and EU clot reviews confirm safety of vaccine

There is no evidence the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine causes blood clots, say UK and EU regulators after a "thorough and careful review".

The MHRA and the EMA say people can have confidence in the vaccine's benefits and should get immunised, despite some countries pausing use.

But anyone with a headache lasting more than four days after vaccination should seek medical advice, as a precaution.

The same advice applies if someone develops unusual bruising.

That is because the regulators have received a very small number of reports of an extremely rare form of blood clot occurring in the brain.

It is this type of clot that triggered some European countries to pause rollout of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine.

In the UK, five cases of cerebral sinus vein thrombosis (CSVT), among 11 million people who have received the vaccine, occurred in men aged between 19 and 59. One of these was fatal.

The EMA has received an additional 13 reports of CSVT.

CSVT can occur naturally and no link to the vaccine has been established. The patients also had low blood platelet counts - cells involved with clotting.

Covid infection can make clots more likely.

Dr June Raine, chief executive of the MHRA, said regulators would continue to closely monitor the situation and people should have the vaccine when it is their turn: "The public can have every confidence in the thoroughness of our review."

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:32 pm Slightly different focus in this link to the one given before

AstraZeneca: UK and EU clot reviews confirm safety of vaccine

There is no evidence the AstraZeneca Covid vaccine causes blood clots, say UK and EU regulators after a "thorough and careful review".

The MHRA and the EMA say people can have confidence in the vaccine's benefits and should get immunised, despite some countries pausing use.

But anyone with a headache lasting more than four days after vaccination should seek medical advice, as a precaution.

The same advice applies if someone develops unusual bruising.

That is because the regulators have received a very small number of reports of an extremely rare form of blood clot occurring in the brain.

It is this type of clot that triggered some European countries to pause rollout of the Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine.

In the UK, five cases of cerebral sinus vein thrombosis (CSVT), among 11 million people who have received the vaccine, occurred in men aged between 19 and 59. One of these was fatal.

The EMA has received an additional 13 reports of CSVT.

CSVT can occur naturally and no link to the vaccine has been established. The patients also had low blood platelet counts - cells involved with clotting.

Covid infection can make clots more likely.

Dr June Raine, chief executive of the MHRA, said regulators would continue to closely monitor the situation and people should have the vaccine when it is their turn: "The public can have every confidence in the thoroughness of our review."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56447367

Lemoentjie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:53 pm So it sounds like the astrazeneca vaccine will be banned in Europe.

Haven't heard that Sputnik having any problems. Definitely seems to be the superior adenovirus vaccine.

Raggs wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:36 pm

Isn't the actual rate indistinguishable from the normal rate though? At least I believe that I read that.

Ovals wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:38 pm

Lemoentjie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:53 pm So it sounds like the astrazeneca vaccine will be banned in Europe.

Haven't heard that Sputnik having any problems. Definitely seems to be the superior adenovirus vaccine.

Well, this post aged well

Raggs wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:42 pm

Ovals wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:38 pm

Lemoentjie wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:53 pm So it sounds like the astrazeneca vaccine will be banned in Europe.

Haven't heard that Sputnik having any problems. Definitely seems to be the superior adenovirus vaccine.

Well, this post aged well

Everyone else was just leaving that bait alone I believe. The idea of suggesting a vaccine that's not even got approval in Europe, is better than one that's been cleared in far more countries, and has agencies backing it, just seems odd.

SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:39 pm Well this should be lively. Given what he said about Hancock's department's Covid responses yesterday!
Catastrophically wrong eh?
[media] [/media]

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:13 am Had my first jab this morning, the AZ variety.

EDIT: 2 hours later, arm feels just a little stiff but not so much as to stop normal activity

Dinsdale Piranha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:33 pm

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:13 am Had my first jab this morning, the AZ variety.

EDIT: 2 hours later, arm feels just a little stiff but not so much as to stop normal activity

I had my first jab yesterday morning. Felt a little achy late evening so dosed myself with beer and ibuprofen. Felt fine this morning and went out for a bike ride. YMMV.

Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:15 pm France start using the AZ vaccine again today, but having previously restricted its use to those under 65, for no good reason, and then suspending its use for no good reason, they are now restricting its use to those over 55, again for no good reason.

That’s sure to encourage uptake in Europe’s most vaccine-hesitant nation.

As some other wag has put it

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:31 pm

Dinsdale Piranha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:33 pm

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:13 am Had my first jab this morning, the AZ variety.

EDIT: 2 hours later, arm feels just a little stiff but not so much as to stop normal activity

I had my first jab yesterday morning. Felt a little achy late evening so dosed myself with beer and ibuprofen. Felt fine this morning and went out for a bike ride. YMMV.

Anecdotal evidence I have seen is that women seem to react worse than men to the AZ jab. Many birds have aches, upset tummy and feel flu-like the day after. Maybe HRT related?

My male friends have had virtually no symptoms.

Dinsdale Piranha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:33 pm

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:13 am Had my first jab this morning, the AZ variety.

EDIT: 2 hours later, arm feels just a little stiff but not so much as to stop normal activity

I had my first jab yesterday morning. Felt a little achy late evening so dosed myself with beer and ibuprofen. Felt fine this morning and went out for a bike ride. YMMV.

Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:15 pm France start using the AZ vaccine again today, but having previously restricted its use to those under 65, for no good reason

Dinsdale Piranha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:33 pm

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:13 am Had my first jab this morning, the AZ variety.

EDIT: 2 hours later, arm feels just a little stiff but not so much as to stop normal activity

I had my first jab yesterday morning. Felt a little achy late evening so dosed myself with beer and ibuprofen. Felt fine this morning and went out for a bike ride. YMMV.

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:57 pm

Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:15 pm France start using the AZ vaccine again today, but having previously restricted its use to those under 65, for no good reason

I don't know if this has been corrected before; but your statement is arse about face.

I was just listening to the head of the Irish medicines board explain the logic; & it isn't a case of the AZ being restricted to the under 65s; it's a decision to prioritize the mRNA vaccines to the most, "at risk"; i.e. the over 65s !

When there are more supplies of vaccine, I'm sure they'll remove the restriction; but right now with the supply issues, they're fully focused on getting coverage to the most at risk.

Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:17 pm

fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:57 pm

Lobby wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:15 pm France start using the AZ vaccine again today, but having previously restricted its use to those under 65, for no good reason

I don't know if this has been corrected before; but your statement is arse about face.

I was just listening to the head of the Irish medicines board explain the logic; & it isn't a case of the AZ being restricted to the under 65s; it's a decision to prioritize the mRNA vaccines to the most, "at risk"; i.e. the over 65s !

When there are more supplies of vaccine, I'm sure they'll remove the restriction; but right now with the supply issues, they're fully focused on getting coverage to the most at risk.

I’m not sure you have understood my post. When the AZ vaccine was first approved by the EMA for all adults, the French authorities restricted its use to those under 65 on the grounds that there was limited information on efficacy for this age group. This restriction was only lifted earlier this month. Then, when there was a scare about blood clots, France and several other countries halted its use altogether, despite the EMA saying it was safe and should continue to be used.

The AZ vaccine is being used again from today, but now with a new caveat from France’s health authorities that it is recommended only for those over 55, apparently on the basis that the blood clotting incidents occurred in people under 55. The EMA continues to recommend its use for all adults.

If the logic for now restricting its use to those over 55 is to prioritise the most at risk, that would be fine, but that isn’t what has been reported elsewhere.

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:31 pm

Dinsdale Piranha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:33 pm

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:13 am Had my first jab this morning, the AZ variety.

EDIT: 2 hours later, arm feels just a little stiff but not so much as to stop normal activity

I had my first jab yesterday morning. Felt a little achy late evening so dosed myself with beer and ibuprofen. Felt fine this morning and went out for a bike ride. YMMV.

Anecdotal evidence I have seen is that women seem to react worse than men to the AZ jab. Many birds have aches, upset tummy and feel flu-like the day after. Maybe HRT related?

My male friends have had virtually no symptoms.

Grandpa wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:30 pm

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:31 pm

Dinsdale Piranha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:33 pm
I had my first jab yesterday morning. Felt a little achy late evening so dosed myself with beer and ibuprofen. Felt fine this morning and went out for a bike ride. YMMV.

Anecdotal evidence I have seen is that women seem to react worse than men to the AZ jab. Many birds have aches, upset tummy and feel flu-like the day after. Maybe HRT related?

My male friends have had virtually no symptoms.

I was very ill after the AZ vaccine. My sister and mother were unaffected... two male mates were also badly affected... apparently the older you are, the less side effects...

Vaccine side effects: My experience of them and what they mean - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56375307

Saint wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 4:09 pm 660,276 doses delivered yesterday - 528,260 first doses, 132,016 second doses

Saint wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:11 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:30 pm

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:31 pm

Anecdotal evidence I have seen is that women seem to react worse than men to the AZ jab. Many birds have aches, upset tummy and feel flu-like the day after. Maybe HRT related?

My male friends have had virtually no symptoms.

I was very ill after the AZ vaccine. My sister and mother were unaffected... two male mates were also badly affected... apparently the older you are, the less side effects...

Vaccine side effects: My experience of them and what they mean - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56375307

The mother of my goddaughter is a trauma nurse a the John Radcliffe - she was one of the first people to get a second Pfizer dose. See my comments above - she was out for the count for nearly 5 days after dose 2.

AS and Pfizer have very different reactions for dose 1 and dose 2.

At the end of the day, even a 5 day inconvenience is just that given the scale of the issue. Evene the regular flu vaccine can take someone out of commision for 2-3 days sometimes

Calculon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:48 am

Saint wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:11 pm

Grandpa wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:30 pm
I was very ill after the AZ vaccine. My sister and mother were unaffected... two male mates were also badly affected... apparently the older you are, the less side effects...

Vaccine side effects: My experience of them and what they mean - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56375307

The mother of my goddaughter is a trauma nurse a the John Radcliffe - she was one of the first people to get a second Pfizer dose. See my comments above - she was out for the count for nearly 5 days after dose 2.

AS and Pfizer have very different reactions for dose 1 and dose 2.

At the end of the day, even a 5 day inconvenience is just that given the scale of the issue. Evene the regular flu vaccine can take someone out of commision for 2-3 days sometimes

Why would that be the case?

Saint wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 11:07 am

Calculon wrote: ↑Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:48 am

Saint wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 11:11 pm

The mother of my goddaughter is a trauma nurse a the John Radcliffe - she was one of the first people to get a second Pfizer dose. See my comments above - she was out for the count for nearly 5 days after dose 2.

AS and Pfizer have very different reactions for dose 1 and dose 2.

At the end of the day, even a 5 day inconvenience is just that given the scale of the issue. Evene the regular flu vaccine can take someone out of commision for 2-3 days sometimes

Why would that be the case?

No-one really knows yet. My guess would be something to do with the delivery method and associated ingredients in the vaccine, but it's not understood - it's just something that's being observed now

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:31 pm

Dinsdale Piranha wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:33 pm

tabascoboy wrote: ↑Fri Mar 19, 2021 10:13 am Had my first jab this morning, the AZ variety.

EDIT: 2 hours later, arm feels just a little stiff but not so much as to stop normal activity

I had my first jab yesterday morning. Felt a little achy late evening so dosed myself with beer and ibuprofen. Felt fine this morning and went out for a bike ride. YMMV.

Anecdotal evidence I have seen is that women seem to react worse than men to the AZ jab. Many birds have aches, upset tummy and feel flu-like the day after. Maybe HRT related?

My male friends have had virtually no symptoms.