The long awaited return of the great Crossword clue

[lilyw]

Most of the cruciverbalists seem to be here rather than on PR.

This cracker from Saturday's Independent is one of the best clues I've seen in years:

Fathead! Soon deduce a timeless quality, unfortunately, that's shared by Johnson and his cohorts (8,2,8)

It's by Jim Toal (Vlad in the Guardian, Tyrus in the Independent) - I think that he is by far the best setter currently working in the UK papers. Saturday's puzzle was really hard but incredibly fairly clued, there wasn't a letter wasted in the clues or spare in the answers. To add to the fun it then had a Nina around the outer edge that referred to several of the clues - a masterpiece.

[Happyhooker]

Nice clue.

I'll dig that crossword out, cheers

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[lilyw]

https://www.theguardian.com/crosswords/prize/28392

This is a really good crossword. Tough but very fair.

[ell]

Tyrus/Vlad is one of my favourites too. I like the level of difficulty his puzzles have. Monk is fairly similar, and usually has a Nina.

[lilyw]

A really neat one from Dean Mayer today, just to prove that it doesn't have to be fiendishly complicated to be good

"P" breaks for cool beast ----o

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RHINO

[Globus]

I am restricted by "The Managment" to two crosswords a day.

This is incredibly annoying. Need to cast my net further. Thanks fellas.

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RHINO

why?

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RHINO

why?

P is the seventeenth letter of the Greek alphabet which is RHO. Cool = "IN"

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RHINO

why?

P is the seventeenth letter of the Greek alphabet which is RHO. Cool = "IN"

Thank you - well above my pay grade

what indicates the greek alphabet though?

[Happyhooker]

why?

P is the seventeenth letter of the Greek alphabet which is RHO. Cool = "IN"

Thank you - well above my pay grade

what indicates the greek alphabet though?

Why do you need an indicator for a greek/latin/german/french etc letter or word? Can't remember ever being given one

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why?

P is the seventeenth letter of the Greek alphabet which is RHO. Cool = "IN"

Thank you - well above my pay grade

what indicates the greek alphabet though?

My pleasure.

I suppose the "P" is in quotes. This sort of clue comes up occasionally. A decent knowledge of Greek and Latin is useful.

Plus cricket terms which confound Guli! Plus loads more. Been doing these for a long time. Usually met my match with AZed and Mephisto, especially when they had "printer's devilry".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Printer%27s_Devilry

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P is the seventeenth letter of the Greek alphabet which is RHO. Cool = "IN"

Thank you - well above my pay grade

what indicates the greek alphabet though?

Why do you need an indicator for a greek/latin/german/french etc letter or word? Can't remember ever being given one

P isn't Rho, it (I assume) is coincidentally the 17th letter of the greek Alphabet surely you need a nudge to use the Greek alphabet