Nervous Women.

[Line6 HXFX]

Do you think this has anything to do with young mothers, pulling their kids in close whenever a man (minding his own damned business, going about his gawdamned day) passes on the pavement, in the street in the opposite direction?
We all have had it, you are walking down the street minding your own damned business..and you see a Young Mother with a Child coming towards you, and you think oh great here we go (so you get your massive eye roll ready) and the overprotective Mother then says sharply "come here" and grabs the childs hand ten foot away from you, as she passes, while looking at you like you were going to grab the child and run off with it or summut..(when the hell as that ever happened anyway).
I am a sort of a normal looking bloke, quite handsome, with a kind face.. with a full head of hair, no criminal record, no tattoos or anything crazy on my head...the mild psoriasis is well covered by my beard..and even I get it.
Yeah, crazy right?
It is not like I am wearing a pink, leather nurses uniform or anything.
So my question is if a young mother does this say six times in two miles, to a young child, walking that kid to school, everytime a man passes them..that child is going to be programmed to be absolutely fucking terrified of men in the street forever.
That little girl is going to grow up being a bag of nerves, having been programmed from a young age to fear all men, in the street.

So the problem isn't really men, that is making girls feel terrified.. it is over protective mothers, and from a young age.

Well it is a theory..what do you want for fuck all anyway..a good one?

[Sandstorm]

Maybe you should do up your raincoat?

[Ymx]

can’t beat that one.

[notfatcat]

Can't say I ever recall this happening, and I'm walking down some very busy streets in London every week. The only 'thing' I notice that happens a lot when I pass mothers with children is that I automatically push the heavy end of my tripod bag around my back so it doesn't smack one of the little fuckers with no spatial awareness in the face.

[Raggs]

Are you sure it's not just a mother trying to get their kid out of the way so you can pass easily? And in these covid times, trying to make sure both you, and them stay safe?

I mean, I only say this because I pull my son in front or behind me, virtually every time we pass someone on the pavement, male or female, to try and ensure the most amount of distance, and most amount of comfort for everyone trying to use the pavement, and as a reasonably solidly built guy, with a very large beard, tighthead prop, a solid grounding in judo and jiujitsu, and some passing ability in boxing, I'm fairly sure I'm not doing it because I'm afraid of the person walking by... I'm also fairly sure my boy, who see's me doing it for everyone passes, realises I'm being polite to others.

I must admit, I do tend to stare at the arseholes who continue to walk straight in the middle of the pavement, forcing us to either squash into the hedge/side, or skirt with stepping into the road.

[Random1]

It feels like there’re two narratives emerging -

1 - the Ben Shapiroesque idea ie that rapists are outliers.

Allied with women should be able to walk where they want, when they want, wearing what they want, but he should also be able to walk through a high crime area waving his wallet around without getting robbed.

Basically criminals are criminals and we have a responsibility to protect ourselves by being careful.

2 - there’s the Jess Phillips angle where she points to an innate level of Misogyny in society and that means society has to do better in order to help women feel and stay safe. She reads out the names of domestic violence In parliament each year in order to highlight the devastation this causes.

I lean towards number 2, but I’d prefer she not tar all men with the same brush - men aren’t the problem. Violent men are the problem and we can all unite around that cause.

[Raggs]

It feels like there’re two narratives emerging -

1 - the Ben Shapiroesque idea ie that rapists are outliers.

Allied with women should be able to walk where they want, when they want, wearing what they want, but he should also be able to walk through a high crime area waving his wallet around without getting robbed.

Basically criminals are criminals and we have a responsibility to protect ourselves by being careful.

2 - there’s the Jess Phillips angle where she points to an innate level of Misogyny in society and that means society has to do better in order to help women feel and stay safe. She reads out the names of domestic violence In parliament each year in order to highlight the devastation this causes.

I lean towards number 2, but I’d prefer she not tar all men with the same brush - men aren’t the problem. Violent men are the problem and we can all unite around that cause.

As someone put it to me, how is a woman supposed to know which ones are the good ones? If someone rolled a ball of shit and covered it in chocolate, then placed it in a box of maltesers, would you be willing to try any of them :D. They're not saying all men are rapists/violent etc, but that when walking down a street, they have no way to be sure, so small steps like crossing the road away from them, or not running up behind them (even if out for a jog etc) And also get better at dragging our mates away from women who're clearly not interested etc etc.

Even if we're part of the good guys, we can still take positive steps to try and help make it clear that's the case, and of course, taking those actions then help inform others of what is a positive attitude. Even a small action can have a knock on effect. Much like reprimanding someone for making a homophobic/racist remark, even if there's no one around to take personal offence etc.

[Random1]

It feels like there’re two narratives emerging -

1 - the Ben Shapiroesque idea ie that rapists are outliers.

Allied with women should be able to walk where they want, when they want, wearing what they want, but he should also be able to walk through a high crime area waving his wallet around without getting robbed.

Basically criminals are criminals and we have a responsibility to protect ourselves by being careful.

2 - there’s the Jess Phillips angle where she points to an innate level of Misogyny in society and that means society has to do better in order to help women feel and stay safe. She reads out the names of domestic violence In parliament each year in order to highlight the devastation this causes.

I lean towards number 2, but I’d prefer she not tar all men with the same brush - men aren’t the problem. Violent men are the problem and we can all unite around that cause.

As someone put it to me, how is a woman supposed to know which ones are the good ones? If someone rolled a ball of shit and covered it in chocolate, then placed it in a box of maltesers, would you be willing to try any of them :D. They're not saying all men are rapists/violent etc, but that when walking down a street, they have no way to be sure, so small steps like crossing the road away from them, or not running up behind them (even if out for a jog etc) And also get better at dragging our mates away from women who're clearly not interested etc etc.

Even if we're part of the good guys, we can still take positive steps to try and help make it clear that's the case, and of course, taking those actions then help inform others of what is a positive attitude. Even a small action can have a knock on effect. Much like reprimanding someone for making a homophobic/racist remark, even if there's no one around to take personal offence etc.

Agreed - dealing with individuals doing idiotic or even criminal things is spot on.

[I like neeps]

The clear and obvious flaw with Ben Shapiro's point is that most woman who are raped or killed by men know their attacker. Usually a date/boyfriend/husband. So unless Ben Shapiro is saying he feels unsafe leaving his wallet and valuables in his house, his point is misinformed.

[Random1]

Yeah, Shapiro doesn’t think a lot through. Still my favourite

[Niegs]

Maybe it's a Canadian thing, but the only time I've seen a mother pull her kid out of the way in my presence is with the "C'mere, ya little shit, you're in that man's way!" type action, with a sudden yank and an apologetic look. If I'm honest, I kinda wish it'd happen more often because little shits often be steppin' in front of me!

And I've also got that potentially-intimidating look: big dude, bearded, Hitler Youth haircut, resting bastard face, and because I don't wear my glasses when I'm out and about (NOT oot and aboot!!! ), I'm probably squinting with a menacing Clint Eastwood vibe as well.

But never have I noticed someone pull a child away in a protective action. I also don't know if that kind of thing for 'protective' reasons would program them either. I grew up in the era of Satanic Panic and Stranger Danger and am FAR too trusting.


But on a serious note, from the women I know who've talked about feeling vulnerable/threatened going about their day/evening duties, EVERY story they've shared refers to something that was done to them when they were an older teen / adult by a man, from cat calls to assault.

[Enzedder]

I should stop sounding off the air horns on the Zimmer eh?

[Line6 HXFX]

Maybe this clinging to your kids on sight of a man thing, doesn't happen so much to you, if you are a dude, and drive everywhere into cities or towns, and just get out and go to a coffee shop etc..and when men are amongst a general populace.

Lol, that would be one busy mother etc in the centre of town constantly clinging to their child for dear life....on sight of a guy...but if you walk around outside towns, in suburbs..on your own a lot like me during the day, and you find yourself the only man on the pavement, encountering mum walking her little darlings to school it happens all the time.

Mum instilling the fear of God into their little ones, and not giving two shits about how it makes you feel.

As I said how many times has a bloke actually grabbed a kid , on the street, in front of the kids mum, whilst she is taking it to school and run off with it?
Because I am guessing the instances of this sure as shit don't justify mum grabbing her kid close whenever a bloke passes.

In Wales I reckon it is zero.
Zero likelihood of a bloke abducting your kid in front of you.
More chance of it being abducted by aliens.
100 percent chance of you turning your daughter into a terrified adult with underlying post traumatic stress syndrome, from those terrifying walks into school.

But hey ho, I get to justifiably practice my Eye roll...so thanks for that.

[robmatic]

Are you sure it's not just a mother trying to get their kid out of the way so you can pass easily? And in these covid times, trying to make sure both you, and them stay safe?

I mean, I only say this because I pull my son in front or behind me, virtually every time we pass someone on the pavement, male or female, to try and ensure the most amount of distance, and most amount of comfort for everyone trying to use the pavement, and as a reasonably solidly built guy, with a very large beard, tighthead prop, a solid grounding in judo and jiujitsu, and some passing ability in boxing, I'm fairly sure I'm not doing it because I'm afraid of the person walking by... I'm also fairly sure my boy, who see's me doing it for everyone passes, realises I'm being polite to others.

I must admit, I do tend to stare at the arseholes who continue to walk straight in the middle of the pavement, forcing us to either squash into the hedge/side, or skirt with stepping into the road.

I've got a 2-year and always pull him close because he has zero spatial awareness and there's a real chance that he will accidentally attempt a Cipriani-esque tackle on anyone walking by.

[Raggs]

Maybe this clinging to your kids on sight of a man thing, doesn't happen so much to you, if you are a dude, and drive everywhere into cities or towns, and just get out and go to a coffee shop etc..and when men are amongst a general populace.

Lol, that would be one busy mother etc in the centre of town constantly clinging to their child for dear life....on sight of a guy...but if you walk around outside towns, in suburbs..on your own a lot like me during the day, and you find yourself the only man on the pavement, encountering mum walking her little darlings to school it happens all the time.

Mum instilling the fear of God into their little ones, and not giving two shits about how it makes you feel.

As I said how many times has a bloke actually grabbed a kid , on the street, in front of the kids mum, whilst she is taking it to school and run off with it?
Because I am guessing the instances of this sure as shit don't justify mum grabbing her kid close whenever a bloke passes.

In Wales I reckon it is zero.
Zero likelihood of a bloke abducting your kid in front of you.
More chance of it being abducted by aliens.
100 percent chance of you turning your daughter into a terrified adult with underlying post traumatic stress syndrome, from those terrifying walks into school.

But hey ho, I get to justifiably practice my Eye roll...so thanks for that.

You appear to have accidentally written your first post again, rather than respond to other posts made. An easy mistake to make I'm sure...

[Line6 HXFX]

Ps)I am sure as shit not going to read any of the comments btw.

I got accused of being a benefits scrounger, drug user, uneducated, unskilled criminal idiot, who deserved to die, and dehumanised so much, even I questioned whether I was real or not.... simply for being unemployed and slightly dejected in one of the worst, darkest and most severely hit jobless enclaves in the whole of Europe.

Making a thread about being a man and "Making Women and their kids Nervous", just by being on the street, is probably not going to be very pretty for me.

But still, let's hope I am surprised hey.

[Random1]

This is Not Planet Rugby.

The majority of people on here debate the topic rather than go all ad hominem.

It’s a bloody oasis is what it is.

[Line6 HXFX]

Kids are oversensitive to this sort of thing. I developed a wicked case of Social Phobia that was tracked, in therapy back to my mum getting very worked up before she went for meals in restaurants.
She was a bundle of stress and anxiety all day long, before meals, and that rubbed off on me..watching it as a kid and so that is what I got.
Her Social phobia.
So you got these mums grabbing their kids close when they are taking them to school..dumping all sorts of terrorised thoughts into that kids head.
In later life these kids are walking the streets with their keys in their hands and grabbing their kids close too.

Do you know what, I think we cracked it.

It isn't about men, it is about mums.

[Sandstorm]

FFS Refry, you can go out for your walk anytime. Just avoid 8am and 3pm outside a school and you’ll be fine.

[Uncle fester]

Do you think this has anything to do with young mothers, pulling their kids in close whenever a man (minding his own damned business, going about his gawdamned day) passes on the pavement, in the street in the opposite direction?
We all have had it, you are walking down the street minding your own damned business..and you see a Young Mother with a Child coming towards you, and you think oh great here we go (so you get your massive eye roll ready) and the overprotective Mother then says sharply "come here" and grabs the childs hand ten foot away from you, as she passes, while looking at you like you were going to grab the child and run off with it or summut..(when the hell as that ever happened anyway).
I am a sort of a normal looking bloke, quite handsome, with a kind face.. with a full head of hair, no criminal record, no tattoos or anything crazy on my head...the mild psoriasis is well covered by my beard..and even I get it.
Yeah, crazy right?
It is not like I am wearing a pink, leather nurses uniform or anything.
So my question is if a young mother does this say six times in two miles, to a young child, walking that kid to school, everytime a man passes them..that child is going to be programmed to be absolutely fucking terrified of men in the street forever.
That little girl is going to grow up being a bag of nerves, having been programmed from a young age to fear all men, in the street.

So the problem isn't really men, that is making girls feel terrified.. it is over protective mothers, and from a young age.

Well it is a theory..what do you want for fuck all anyway..a good one?

[JM2K6]

Talk to one of your female friends who has kids, REFRY, and see what they say about it.

Must admit you're the last person I expected to seemingly blame women for their daughters growing up nervous of men. But given how many women have been assaulted I don't think their mothers' behaviour has anything to do with it at all.

[Ovals]

Maybe this clinging to your kids on sight of a man thing, doesn't happen so much to you, if you are a dude, and drive everywhere into cities or towns, and just get out and go to a coffee shop etc..and when men are amongst a general populace.

Lol, that would be one busy mother etc in the centre of town constantly clinging to their child for dear life....on sight of a guy...but if you walk around outside towns, in suburbs..on your own a lot like me during the day, and you find yourself the only man on the pavement, encountering mum walking her little darlings to school it happens all the time.

Mum instilling the fear of God into their little ones, and not giving two shits about how it makes you feel.

As I said how many times has a bloke actually grabbed a kid , on the street, in front of the kids mum, whilst she is taking it to school and run off with it?
Because I am guessing the instances of this sure as shit don't justify mum grabbing her kid close whenever a bloke passes.

In Wales I reckon it is zero.
Zero likelihood of a bloke abducting your kid in front of you.
More chance of it being abducted by aliens.
100 percent chance of you turning your daughter into a terrified adult with underlying post traumatic stress syndrome, from those terrifying walks into school.

But hey ho, I get to justifiably practice my Eye roll...so thanks for that.

I've never experienced what you are suggesting Refry. ATM people do try to give everyone a wide berth out of respect for social dsitancing.

I think that suggesting Mums are the problem; is pretty wide of the mark.

[Sandstorm]

I wish the mums and kids around here would GTFO of the way on the pavements! Totally oblivious to others during a pandemic.

[Insane_Homer]

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Do you think this has anything to do with young mothers, pulling their kids in close whenever a man (minding his own damned business, going about his gawdamned day) passes on the pavement, in the street in the opposite direction?
We all have had it, you are walking down the street minding your own damned business..and you see a Young Mother with a Child coming towards you, and you think oh great here we go (so you get your massive eye roll ready) and the overprotective Mother then says sharply "come here" and grabs the childs hand ten foot away from you, as she passes, while looking at you like you were going to grab the child and run off with it or summut..(when the hell as that ever happened anyway).
I am a sort of a normal looking bloke, quite handsome, with a kind face.. with a full head of hair, no criminal record, no tattoos or anything crazy on my head...the mild psoriasis is well covered by my beard..and even I get it.
Yeah, crazy right?
It is not like I am wearing a pink, leather nurses uniform or anything.
So my question is if a young mother does this say six times in two miles, to a young child, walking that kid to school, everytime a man passes them..that child is going to be programmed to be absolutely fucking terrified of men in the street forever.
That little girl is going to grow up being a bag of nerves, having been programmed from a young age to fear all men, in the street.

So the problem isn't really men, that is making girls feel terrified.. it is over protective mothers, and from a young age.

Well it is a theory..what do you want for fuck all anyway..a good one?

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Why not just go full arsehole and state #notallmen bellend.

[Butterfingers]

Kids are oversensitive to this sort of thing. I developed a wicked case of Social Phobia that was tracked, in therapy back to my mum getting very worked up before she went for meals in restaurants.
She was a bundle of stress and anxiety all day long, before meals, and that rubbed off on me..watching it as a kid and so that is what I got.
Her Social phobia.
So you got these mums grabbing their kids close when they are taking them to school..dumping all sorts of terrorised thoughts into that kids head.
In later life these kids are walking the streets with their keys in their hands and grabbing their kids close too.

Do you know what, I think we cracked it.

It isn't about men, it is about mums.

I think we're going to have issues with my kid in public when all this is over. He's 3 so can't remember a time where social distancing wasn't a thing. If there are people walking towards us on a path he will start telling me there are people coming and rush to get out of the way.

We were in the shop the other day and he looked anxious. When I asked what was wrong he said quietly "there's a lot of people here". There wasn't. It was just a normal Saturday morning in Morrisons.

Poor lockdown kids.

[Insane_Homer]

[shaggy]

Maybe this clinging to your kids on sight of a man thing, doesn't happen so much to you, if you are a dude, and drive everywhere into cities or towns, and just get out and go to a coffee shop etc..and when men are amongst a general populace.

Lol, that would be one busy mother etc in the centre of town constantly clinging to their child for dear life....on sight of a guy...but if you walk around outside towns, in suburbs..on your own a lot like me during the day, and you find yourself the only man on the pavement, encountering mum walking her little darlings to school it happens all the time.

Mum instilling the fear of God into their little ones, and not giving two shits about how it makes you feel.

As I said how many times has a bloke actually grabbed a kid , on the street, in front of the kids mum, whilst she is taking it to school and run off with it?
Because I am guessing the instances of this sure as shit don't justify mum grabbing her kid close whenever a bloke passes.

In Wales I reckon it is zero.
Zero likelihood of a bloke abducting your kid in front of you.
More chance of it being abducted by aliens.
100 percent chance of you turning your daughter into a terrified adult with underlying post traumatic stress syndrome, from those terrifying walks into school.

But hey ho, I get to justifiably practice my Eye roll...so thanks for that.

I've never experienced what you are suggesting Refry. ATM people do try to give everyone a wide berth out of respect for social dsitancing.

I think that suggesting Mums are the problem; is pretty wide of the mark.

Not all, in fact not many are paying attention to social distancing outside. This morning whilst walking the dog I was 2m from another dog walker whilst they sniffed each other and some clueless woman out running decided to go between us when there was 300m + of space just to the left of me. She was so clueless she even got caught up in a lead.

Every single day there are multiple similar type events on our local common where passing someone by inches away is considered acceptable by the vast majority of people.

[Ovals]

Maybe this clinging to your kids on sight of a man thing, doesn't happen so much to you, if you are a dude, and drive everywhere into cities or towns, and just get out and go to a coffee shop etc..and when men are amongst a general populace.

Lol, that would be one busy mother etc in the centre of town constantly clinging to their child for dear life....on sight of a guy...but if you walk around outside towns, in suburbs..on your own a lot like me during the day, and you find yourself the only man on the pavement, encountering mum walking her little darlings to school it happens all the time.

Mum instilling the fear of God into their little ones, and not giving two shits about how it makes you feel.

As I said how many times has a bloke actually grabbed a kid , on the street, in front of the kids mum, whilst she is taking it to school and run off with it?
Because I am guessing the instances of this sure as shit don't justify mum grabbing her kid close whenever a bloke passes.

In Wales I reckon it is zero.
Zero likelihood of a bloke abducting your kid in front of you.
More chance of it being abducted by aliens.
100 percent chance of you turning your daughter into a terrified adult with underlying post traumatic stress syndrome, from those terrifying walks into school.

But hey ho, I get to justifiably practice my Eye roll...so thanks for that.

I've never experienced what you are suggesting Refry. ATM people do try to give everyone a wide berth out of respect for social dsitancing.

I think that suggesting Mums are the problem; is pretty wide of the mark.

Not all, in fact not many are paying attention to social distancing outside. This morning whilst walking the dog I was 2m from another dog walker whilst they sniffed each other and some clueless woman out running decided to go between us when there was 300m + of space just to the left of me. She was so clueless she even got caught up in a lead.

Every single day there are multiple similar type events on our local common where passing someone by inches away is considered acceptable by the vast majority of people.

There's always a few, and they are very annoying - but, in general, I've found that the vast majority of people are playing fairly. We make a bigger effort when we come across Mums/Dads with kids - and try and give them as much space as possible - even crossing the road if we can - efforts that are often, politely, acknowledged.

[Muttonbird]

Maybe the OP is getting confused about the intention. My experience is when mums corral kids it's so the child won't get in the way of someone else, or to stop them doing something silly.

So, probably protecting you from the child rather than the other way around.

[Slick]

I've never experienced what you are suggesting Refry. ATM people do try to give everyone a wide berth out of respect for social dsitancing.

I think that suggesting Mums are the problem; is pretty wide of the mark.

Not all, in fact not many are paying attention to social distancing outside. This morning whilst walking the dog I was 2m from another dog walker whilst they sniffed each other and some clueless woman out running decided to go between us when there was 300m + of space just to the left of me. She was so clueless she even got caught up in a lead.

Every single day there are multiple similar type events on our local common where passing someone by inches away is considered acceptable by the vast majority of people.

There's always a few, and they are very annoying - but, in general, I've found that the vast majority of people are playing fairly. We make a bigger effort when we come across Mums/Dads with kids - and try and give them as much space as possible - even crossing the road if we can - efforts that are often, politely, acknowledged.

Yes, that would certainly be my experience in the main. Students and stupid people excepted

[Openside]

Maybe you should do up your raincoat?

[Line6 HXFX]

Do you think this has anything to do with young mothers, pulling their kids in close whenever a man (minding his own damned business, going about his gawdamned day) passes on the pavement, in the street in the opposite direction?
We all have had it, you are walking down the street minding your own damned business..and you see a Young Mother with a Child coming towards you, and you think oh great here we go (so you get your massive eye roll ready) and the overprotective Mother then says sharply "come here" and grabs the childs hand ten foot away from you, as she passes, while looking at you like you were going to grab the child and run off with it or summut..(when the hell as that ever happened anyway).
I am a sort of a normal looking bloke, quite handsome, with a kind face.. with a full head of hair, no criminal record, no tattoos or anything crazy on my head...the mild psoriasis is well covered by my beard..and even I get it.
Yeah, crazy right?
It is not like I am wearing a pink, leather nurses uniform or anything.
So my question is if a young mother does this say six times in two miles, to a young child, walking that kid to school, everytime a man passes them..that child is going to be programmed to be absolutely fucking terrified of men in the street forever.
That little girl is going to grow up being a bag of nerves, having been programmed from a young age to fear all men, in the street.

So the problem isn't really men, that is making girls feel terrified.. it is over protective mothers, and from a young age.

Well it is a theory..what do you want for fuck all anyway..a good one?

Lol. You know I have been with the same lovely lady for like 30 years and your attempts to portray me as a creep are just fucking disgusting.

It is just me and her man, having the time of our lives...oblivious to most of the hateful shit in the world..and your repellant shit is just you looking in a fucking shitty mirror?
Sad stupid cunt.

[Raggs]

Lol. You know I have been with the same lovely lady for like 30 years and your attempts to portray me as a creep are just fucking disgusting.

It is just me and her man, having the time of our lives...oblivious to most of the hateful shit in the world..and your repellant shit is just you looking in a fucking shitty mirror?
Sad stupid cunt.

You're the one suggesting that large portions of women are fearful and teaching their children to be fearful. I suspect you're projecting once again here.

[Line6 HXFX]

Lol. You know I have been with the same lovely lady for like 30 years and your attempts to portray me as a creep are just fucking disgusting.

It is just me and her man, having the time of our lives...oblivious to most of the hateful shit in the world..and your repellant shit is just you looking in a fucking shitty mirror?
Sad stupid cunt.

You're the one suggesting that large portions of women are fearful and teaching their children to be fearful. I suspect you're projecting once again here.

Projecting once again? Do I fucking know you, because I gaurentee you, you don't know fuck all about me my lovely.

Sit back. Have a quiet wee think about "what narrative do I want to create and develope about someone I don't know from Adam".
And consider the guy you are talking to would never in a million years ever dream of doing it to you.

[Raggs]

Lol. You know I have been with the same lovely lady for like 30 years and your attempts to portray me as a creep are just fucking disgusting.

It is just me and her man, having the time of our lives...oblivious to most of the hateful shit in the world..and your repellant shit is just you looking in a fucking shitty mirror?
Sad stupid cunt.

You're the one suggesting that large portions of women are fearful and teaching their children to be fearful. I suspect you're projecting once again here.

Projecting once again? Do I fucking know you, because I gaurentee you, you don't know fuck all about me my lovely.

Sit back. Have a quiet wee think about "what narrative do I want to create and develope about someone I don't know from Adam".
And consider the guy you are talking to would never in a million years ever dream of doing it to you.

Have you read your opening post and the one following?

[Mahoney]

After goodness knows how many years of chronicling every life event and emotion on here & PR I know refry's personality and personal history better than most of my friends'.

[Line6 HXFX]

After goodness knows how many years of chronicling every life event and emotion on here & PR I know refry's personality and personal history better than most of my friends'.

I really honestly have no idea who you are. Are you Scottish?


Ok I love mahoney, how could I not..he is great.

[Line6 HXFX]

You're the one suggesting that large portions of women are fearful and teaching their children to be fearful. I suspect you're projecting once again here.

Projecting once again? Do I fucking know you, because I gaurentee you, you don't know fuck all about me my lovely.

Sit back. Have a quiet wee think about "what narrative do I want to create and develope about someone I don't know from Adam".
And consider the guy you are talking to would never in a million years ever dream of doing it to you.

Have you read your opening post and the one following?

Yeah..and?

I live in a different world than you.

[Fangle]

Could someone please explain what this means:

It is just me and her man, having the time of our lives..

[Raggs]

And yet you feel capable of speaking on behalf of all of us.