Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:31 am
For our chiefs supporters, especially Naki
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Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:47 am
He seems out of his depth. Has he never coached talented players before?
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:14 am
:oShanky’s mate wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 4:47 am He seems out of his depth. Has he never coached talented players before?
Should have brought his wing man Shaun Edwards with him.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:31 am
0/4.
Wow.
Wow.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:38 am
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Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:42 am
It makes me sad that he isn't the All Blacks coach.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:51 am
I suspect the Chiefs miss a coach with serious mana, like Dave Rennie.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:55 am
The silver lining is that Gatland is stumbling so badly that he won’t even be considered for All Blacks coach when Foster is inevitably stood down in 2022. This will allow Jamie Joseph and his team to take over the ABs without going through any farcical selection process.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:04 am
It’s a tribute to Dave Rennie’s and Colin Cooper’s previous coaching that the Chiefs started the pre-covid season as well as they did. Through their adversity the remnants of Rennie/Cooper saw them win three on the bounce despite Gatland.Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:51 am I suspect the Chiefs miss a coach with serious mana, like Dave Rennie.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:44 am
One would hope Scott Robertson would have first dibs, Shirley.FujiKiwi wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:55 am The silver lining is that Gatland is stumbling so badly that he won’t even be considered for All Blacks coach when Foster is inevitably stood down in 2022. This will allow Jamie Joseph and his team to take over the ABs without going through any farcical selection process.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:49 am
No. Robertson's achievements as coach are dwarfed by Joseph's.Jimmy Smallsteps wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:44 amOne would hope Scott Robertson would have first dibs, Shirley.FujiKiwi wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:55 am The silver lining is that Gatland is stumbling so badly that he won’t even be considered for All Blacks coach when Foster is inevitably stood down in 2022. This will allow Jamie Joseph and his team to take over the ABs without going through any farcical selection process.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:58 am
I would think so as Rennie is out of the pictureJimmy Smallsteps wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 6:44 amOne would hope Scott Robertson would have first dibs, Shirley.FujiKiwi wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:55 am The silver lining is that Gatland is stumbling so badly that he won’t even be considered for All Blacks coach when Foster is inevitably stood down in 2022. This will allow Jamie Joseph and his team to take over the ABs without going through any farcical selection process.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:01 am
Robertson’s still sitting at the little kids’ table. I agree that it’s time for him to join the grownups, but not coaching the ABs. Let him show what he can do with a Japan or an Italy.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:12 am
The Lions are still saddled with him thoughFujiKiwi wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:55 am The silver lining is that Gatland is stumbling so badly that he won’t even be considered for All Blacks coach when Foster is inevitably stood down in 2022. This will allow Jamie Joseph and his team to take over the ABs without going through any farcical selection process.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:24 am
I was having a chuckle thinking about that.Caley_Red wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:12 amThe Lions are still saddled with him thoughFujiKiwi wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:55 am The silver lining is that Gatland is stumbling so badly that he won’t even be considered for All Blacks coach when Foster is inevitably stood down in 2022. This will allow Jamie Joseph and his team to take over the ABs without going through any farcical selection process.
Though, I wonder if it is that his tactics only work on certain athletic types. NH gym monkeys?
Or this is just bad luck now emerging in to a player confidence issue.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:32 am
Wales weren't just gym monkeys under Gatland's tenure, though.
I think it's more that when he got his Grand Slams with Wales, the other nations were undergoing slumps of their own.
His first Lions tour succeeded against a pretty poorly coached Aussie team. In 2017 the ABs were in a bit of a decline, and even then Gatland needed a fair bit of luck. His midweek sides weren't great against Super teams.
For me the most irritating thing about him is how whiny and thin skinned he is. It was a shame to see some of that rubbing off on the Chiefs in the way Angus Ta'avao spoke when interviewed at half time.
Gatland is turning the Chiefs into a bunch of crybabies.
I think it's more that when he got his Grand Slams with Wales, the other nations were undergoing slumps of their own.
His first Lions tour succeeded against a pretty poorly coached Aussie team. In 2017 the ABs were in a bit of a decline, and even then Gatland needed a fair bit of luck. His midweek sides weren't great against Super teams.
For me the most irritating thing about him is how whiny and thin skinned he is. It was a shame to see some of that rubbing off on the Chiefs in the way Angus Ta'avao spoke when interviewed at half time.
Gatland is turning the Chiefs into a bunch of crybabies.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:44 am
Not sure, he certainly had Wales as greater than the sum of their parts but how much was down to Edwards?Ymx wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:24 amI was having a chuckle thinking about that.Caley_Red wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:12 amThe Lions are still saddled with him thoughFujiKiwi wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 5:55 am The silver lining is that Gatland is stumbling so badly that he won’t even be considered for All Blacks coach when Foster is inevitably stood down in 2022. This will allow Jamie Joseph and his team to take over the ABs without going through any farcical selection process.
Though, I wonder if it is that his tactics only work on certain athletic types. NH gym monkeys?
Or this is just bad luck now emerging in to a player confidence issue.
I think the lions will take a decent beating in SA anyway but they shouldn't have picked the coach so far out from the tour.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:06 am
NZ players clearly don't understand where the rucks are supposed to be.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:21 am
Gats is clearly incompatible with NZ rugby and that result has left a bad taste in my mouth ( and I have been sculling back brown bombers too!)
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:24 am
Was going to ask how they're trying to play the game.
Only have Aotearoa highlights and felt like every score the Chiefs got to start a bit of momentum the clock skipped 15min ahead to the next Canes try.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:42 am
Some coaches need time to settle in and build up from a solid base. Gatland may be one of those. He started slowly/poorly with Wales and built them up to a force to be reckoned with. Then you have your quick fix coaches like Jake White. The latter gets immediate results but the performances tend to taper off as time goes by.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:47 am
It’s a running joke mate. The Gatland Out! thread on Planet Rugby was one of the most long running and entertaining threads on the forum.
Yeah prior to Covid hitting The Chiefs looks really good. Gats will be a decent coach
Yeah prior to Covid hitting The Chiefs looks really good. Gats will be a decent coach
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:50 am
Yes, Naki posted it up on other bored after 1 half of a game, when the chiefs were down at half time.
And the Welsh did it before this.
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Though 0/4 games
And the Welsh did it before this.
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Though 0/4 games
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:21 am
He's been getting his whinge on after each loss. We don't want that sort of NH influence down here.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:22 am
He's a complete sook. Not hard enough to be an AB coach, and obviously not hard enough to be a Super coach either.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:26 am
The man the vision the whinge
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:27 am
The Crusader’s try from the quick line out last week was a direct result of Gatland’s whinge culture. Brad Webber followed his coach’s lead and was too busy complaining to the referee instead of worrying about what mattered.
That type of attitude from the top can be insidious in a team.
That type of attitude from the top can be insidious in a team.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:33 am
The Chiefs scored a few of those quick-witted, catch the oppo napping tries themselves during the Rennie era.Jb1981 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:27 am The Crusader’s try from the quick line out last week was a direct result of Gatland’s whinge culture. Brad Webber followed his coach’s lead and was too busy complaining to the referee instead of worrying about what mattered.
That type of attitude from the top can be insidious in a team.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:37 am
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Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:39 am
Chiefs have the most bonus points on the log. Building nicely.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:41 am
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:47 am
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:49 am
No. 6 weeks to go.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:55 am
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:55 am
This pretty much sums it up for me. He's a whiny little twat. Every time I see him on tv he is whining.FujiKiwi wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 7:32 am Wales weren't just gym monkeys under Gatland's tenure, though.
I think it's more that when he got his Grand Slams with Wales, the other nations were undergoing slumps of their own.
His first Lions tour succeeded against a pretty poorly coached Aussie team. In 2017 the ABs were in a bit of a decline, and even then Gatland needed a fair bit of luck. His midweek sides weren't great against Super teams.
For me the most irritating thing about him is how whiny and thin skinned he is. It was a shame to see some of that rubbing off on the Chiefs in the way Angus Ta'avao spoke when interviewed at half time.
Gatland is turning the Chiefs into a bunch of crybabies.
Shut the fuck up and win some games mate.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 9:56 am
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:00 am
I know which one I'd choose.Amethyst wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:42 am Some coaches need time to settle in and build up from a solid base. Gatland may be one of those. He started slowly/poorly with Wales and built them up to a force to be reckoned with. Then you have your quick fix coaches like Jake White. The latter gets immediate results but the performances tend to taper off as time goes by.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:07 am
Hammett?-RB. wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:00 amI know which one I'd choose.Amethyst wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:42 am Some coaches need time to settle in and build up from a solid base. Gatland may be one of those. He started slowly/poorly with Wales and built them up to a force to be reckoned with. Then you have your quick fix coaches like Jake White. The latter gets immediate results but the performances tend to taper off as time goes by.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:53 am
Low blow man, low blow.Mr Bungle wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:07 amHammett?-RB. wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 10:00 amI know which one I'd choose.Amethyst wrote: ↑Sun Jul 05, 2020 8:42 am Some coaches need time to settle in and build up from a solid base. Gatland may be one of those. He started slowly/poorly with Wales and built them up to a force to be reckoned with. Then you have your quick fix coaches like Jake White. The latter gets immediate results but the performances tend to taper off as time goes by.
Re: Gatland OUT
Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2020 11:00 am
I’m thoroughly enjoying him getting his arse handed to him. It looks like he hasn’t coached to the new rules, and still only knows pick and bosh, one out and bosh, mispass and bosh. Doesn’t know what to do with small talented players like McKenzie and Cruden. Cruden looks like he doesn’t even believe in his own decision making, which is probably down to coaching. No imagination in attack. And he doesn’t have Edwards to sort out the defence and drill people in training.