The Springboks vs British & Irish Lions 3rd Test Thread

[Chilli]

SATURDAY 07 AUGUST 2021 @18H00

GREEN POINT STADIUM, CAPE TOWN





THE SPRINGBOKS



CAPTAIN



TEAM

SPRINGBOKS: Willie le Roux, Cheslin Kolbe, Lukhanyo Am, Damian de Allende, Makazole Mapimpi; Handre Pollard, Cobus Reinach; Jasper Wiese, Franco Mostert, Siya Kolisi (captain), Lood de Jager, Eben Etzebeth, Frans Malherbe, Bongi Mbonambi, Steven Kitshoff.

Replacements: Malcolm Marx, Trevor Nyakane, Vincent Koch, Marco van Staden, Kwagga Smith, Herschel Jantjies, Morne Steyn, Damian Willemse.

VS

THE LIONS



CAPTAIN



TEAM

BRITISH AND IRISH LIONS TEAM: Liam Williams; Josh Adams, Robbie Henshaw, Bundee Aki, Duhan van der Merwe, Dan Biggar, Ali Price, Jack Conan, Tom Curry, Courtney Lawes, Alun Wyn Jones (captain), Maro Itoje, Tadhg Furlong, Ken Owens, Wyn Jones.

Replacements: Luke Cowan-Dickie, Mako Vunipola, Kyle Sinckler, Adam Beard, Sam Simmonds, Conor Murray, Finn Russell, Elliot Daly.

MATCH OFFICIALS



Referee: Mathieu Raynal (FFR)
Assistant Referee 1: Ben O'Keeffe (NZR)
Assistant Referee 2: Nic Berry (RA)
TMO: Marius Jonker (SARU)

[Sards]

Easy win....BILs are struggling to cope.

[boere wors]

The captains... quality, Chilli!

[boere wors]

Ja, pretty confident we will win this one as well. Hopefully no red cards and the refs handle the match as well as on Saturday

[Sandstorm]

Ja, pretty confident we will win this one as well. Hopefully no red cards and the refs handle the match as well as on Saturday

So this Saturday he’s French……

[Begbie]

Any team leaks/rumours yet?

[boere wors]

Will the teams be announced today?

[vball]

Lions to be announced at High Noon today..............

[JM2K6]

My gut says no more than 5 changes for the Lions. Midfield of Farrell and Henshaw. Williams for Hogg. Some back row changes (Faletau will probably come in). Wyn Jones to start.

Harris -> Farrell
Hogg -> Williams
VDM -> Adams
Conan -> Faletau
Mako -> Wyn Jones

I can see more changes in the back row though.

[Chilli]

My gut says no more than 5 changes for the Lions. Midfield of Farrell and Henshaw. Williams for Hogg. Some back row changes (Faletau will probably come in). Wyn Jones to start.

Harris -> Farrell
Hogg -> Williams
VDM -> Adams
Conan -> Faletau
Mako -> Wyn Jones

I can see more changes in the back row though.

Koos's son was super in all the warm up matches.
He honestly has been given any ball in the tests, so why replace him? Rather pass the ball to him.

[handyman]

I'm very happy that this series went ahead and that it's going to a decider. Boks have more miles under the belt, so I'm hoping for a repeat performance of the second half in the second test. We need to avoid cards.

[Chilli]

The captains... quality, Chilli!

I try.

[charltom]

My gut says no more than 5 changes for the Lions. Midfield of Farrell and Henshaw. Williams for Hogg. Some back row changes (Faletau will probably come in). Wyn Jones to start.

Harris -> Farrell
Hogg -> Williams
VDM -> Adams
Conan -> Faletau
Mako -> Wyn Jones

I can see more changes in the back row though.

Can see arguments for most of those but Farrell...?

These changes would all be fine if Gatland wants to try the same game plan again, and that won't work.

Change in the half-backs is what's needed if the Lions are to play to win. If we don't see that (either today or as a late surprise change), we can kiss the series goodbye. And this is a job for Mish.

I absolutely don't expect WG to go for it, though.

[JM2K6]

My gut says no more than 5 changes for the Lions. Midfield of Farrell and Henshaw. Williams for Hogg. Some back row changes (Faletau will probably come in). Wyn Jones to start.

Harris -> Farrell
Hogg -> Williams
VDM -> Adams
Conan -> Faletau
Mako -> Wyn Jones

I can see more changes in the back row though.

Can see arguments for most of those but Farrell...?

These changes would all be fine if Gatland wants to try the same game plan again, and that won't work.

Change in the half-backs is what's needed if the Lions are to play to win. If we don't see that (either today or as a late surprise change), we can kiss the series goodbye. And this is a job for Mish.

I absolutely don't expect WG to go for it, though.

There's a leak that says Farrell at 10...

My Gatland-Justification for Farrell at 12 is that it makes it a bit easier to spread the play wider, it adds another kicking option, and his famed leadership skillz will help...

Like you, I would get Price in there in a heartbeat but then I would never have dropped him in the first place, so impossible to say if Gatland is getting what he wants out of Murray

[JM2K6]

Jesus Christ it's worse than I thought

[Brazil]

British and Irish Lions: Williams; Adams, Henshaw, Aki, Van der Merwe; Biggar, Price; Jones, Owens, Furlong, Itoje, A Wyn Jones (c), Lawes, Curry, Conan

Replacements: Cowan-Dickie, Vunipola, Sinckler, Beard, Simmonds, Murray, Russell, Daly

[JM2K6]

Team announced:

Wyn Jones
Ken Owens (!!!!!!!!!)
Furlong
Itoje
AWJ
Lawes
Curry
Conan
Price
Biggar
VDM(!!!)
Aki(!!!!!)
Henshaw
Adams(!)
Williams

Bench is LCD, Mako, Sinckler, Beard, Simmonds(!), Murray, Russell, Daly

[JM2K6]

Ken Owens had an absolute fucking howler off the bench and gets rewarded with a start, that's pretty special.

[Cartman]

Could have been worse from an SA perspective imo so happy with that

[Biffer]

That's just looking to play the same game again with a different cast and then fling Russell on at the end to try to work a miracle.

Quite how there are no changes in the back row after their ineffectual showing last week is beyond me.

[charltom]

A brave coach would have briefed a few of those guys to "be injured" on the day so as to spring a surprise. Otherwise he'll need to change 10 early if they're to have any hope.

That back row is ineffectual. Poor Mish & Tadgh. And Fagerson's going to be full of confidence if Sinckler doesn't make it...

[ASMO]

Team announced:

Wyn Jones
Ken Owens (!!!!!!!!!)
Furlong
Itoje
AWJ
Lawes
Curry
Conan
Price
Biggar
VDM(!!!)
Aki(!!!!!)
Henshaw
Adams(!)
Williams

Bench is LCD, Mako, Sinckler, Beard, Simmonds(!), Murray, Russell, Daly

I would like to offer my congratulations to our South African brethren for a series win, well done guys.

[Paddington Bear]

Team announced:

Wyn Jones
Ken Owens (!!!!!!!!!)
Furlong
Itoje
AWJ
Lawes
Curry
Conan
Price
Biggar
VDM(!!!)
Aki(!!!!!)
Henshaw
Adams(!)
Williams

Bench is LCD, Mako, Sinckler, Beard, Simmonds(!), Murray, Russell, Daly

Yep, not watching

[Begbie]

Some are suggesting we'll play up the guts bosh shit for 50 then bring on Russell, LCD and Simmonds and open the game up. Not sure how that works with Murray coming on though, or if our forwards are getting totally dominated again.

From a Scottish point of view I have no complaints about Suzz and Hogg dropping out completely and VdM is very lucky.

[Biffer]

Some are suggesting we'll play up the guts bosh shit for 50 then bring on Russell, LCD and Simmonds and open the game up. Not sure how that works with Murray coming on though, or if our forwards are getting totally dominated again.

From a Scottish point of view I have no complaints about Suzz and Hogg dropping out completely and VdM is very lucky.

Yeah, it's Mish I feel sorry for most of all, and also Harris. Hopefully this will fire them up for November.

[westport]

South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Cheslin Kolbe, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Cobus Reinach, 8 Jasper Wiese, 7 Franco Mostert, 6 Siya Kolisi (c), 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Steven Kitshoff
Replacements: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Trevor Nyakane, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Marco van Staden, 20 Kwagga Smith, 21 Herschel Jantjies, 22 Morne Steyn, 23 Damian Willemse

[C T]

Some are suggesting we'll play up the guts bosh shit for 50 then bring on Russell, LCD and Simmonds and open the game up. Not sure how that works with Murray coming on though, or if our forwards are getting totally dominated again.

From a Scottish point of view I have no complaints about Suzz and Hogg dropping out completely and VdM is very lucky.

Yeah, it's Mish I feel sorry for most of all, and also Harris. Hopefully this will fire them up for November.

Aye, me too. Hogg and Sutherland getting what they deserve really for not particularly showing up. IrnDu set up for a bit of a soul destroying day if the game plan is the same.

Mish/Curry is such a 50/50, I honestly couldn't shake the thought that one would start two tests and the other start one. Wouldn't mind Curry starting all three if he'd lit the place up in the first two given how good he is, but he really hasn't.

[handyman]

South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Cheslin Kolbe, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Cobus Reinach, 8 Jasper Wiese, 7 Franco Mostert, 6 Siya Kolisi (c), 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Steven Kitshoff
Replacements: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Trevor Nyakane, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Marco van Staden, 20 Kwagga Smith, 21 Herschel Jantjies, 22 Morne Steyn, 23 Damian Willemse

Mostert out of position at 7, but a natural athlete, so should be fine. Faf is a big loss, but Reinach should be up for it. Safer bench with 3 backline players.

[Brazil]

What's happened to Faf? Delighted for Lood to get a start, now please don't get injured...

[handyman]

What's happened to Faf? Delighted for Lood to get a start, now please don't get injured...

Injured.

Lood and injuries goes hand in hand unfortunately.

[boere wors]

What's happened to Faf? Delighted for Lood to get a start, now please don't get injured...

injured himself late in the game on saturday, muscle strain

[Sards]

South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Cheslin Kolbe, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Cobus Reinach, 8 Jasper Wiese, 7 Franco Mostert, 6 Siya Kolisi (c), 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Steven Kitshoff
Replacements: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Trevor Nyakane, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Marco van Staden, 20 Kwagga Smith, 21 Herschel Jantjies, 22 Morne Steyn, 23 Damian Willemse

Mostert out of position at 7, but a natural athlete, so should be fine. Faf is a big loss, but Reinach should be up for it. Safer bench with 3 backline players.

Reinach was definitely the right call...we are not going to lose anything as Faf And Reinach have been in scintilating form.
Mostert and Lood were huge last week. We actually dominated the game when he came on.
Very strange that they perservere with Kwagga , unless they have boxed themselves into this position by releasing the Du Preez brothers so early.

Going to be a decent game for sure.

[Sards]

What's happened to Faf? Delighted for Lood to get a start, now please don't get injured...

injured himself late in the game on saturday, muscle strain

When he executed that chip kick...it was a perfect kick even though he landed on his arse.....

[boere wors]

South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Cheslin Kolbe, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Cobus Reinach, 8 Jasper Wiese, 7 Franco Mostert, 6 Siya Kolisi (c), 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Steven Kitshoff
Replacements: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Trevor Nyakane, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Marco van Staden, 20 Kwagga Smith, 21 Herschel Jantjies, 22 Morne Steyn, 23 Damian Willemse

Mostert out of position at 7, but a natural athlete, so should be fine. Faf is a big loss, but Reinach should be up for it. Safer bench with 3 backline players.

Mostert has played 7 for the Lions. And it worked already well on saturday when he switched to 7 after Lood came on.
Cobus will be fine, especially in combination with Pollard, they are familiar from Montpellier.
Dont get the 5-3 bench, Morne is not really needed there and we are thus missing a fresh cover for lock

[Brazil]

What's happened to Faf? Delighted for Lood to get a start, now please don't get injured...

Injured.

Lood and injuries goes hand in hand unfortunately.

Ah right. I'm well aware of Lood's unfortunate habits following him for Sale. There's not many men that can pretty much snap their own leg off in a lineout, but he managed it, bless him.

[handyman]

South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Cheslin Kolbe, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Cobus Reinach, 8 Jasper Wiese, 7 Franco Mostert, 6 Siya Kolisi (c), 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Steven Kitshoff
Replacements: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Trevor Nyakane, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Marco van Staden, 20 Kwagga Smith, 21 Herschel Jantjies, 22 Morne Steyn, 23 Damian Willemse

Mostert out of position at 7, but a natural athlete, so should be fine. Faf is a big loss, but Reinach should be up for it. Safer bench with 3 backline players.

Reinach was definitely the right call...we are not going to lose anything as Faf And Reinach have been in scintilating form.
Mostert and Lood were huge last week. We actually dominated the game when he came on.
Very strange that they perservere with Kwagga , unless they have boxed themselves into this position by releasing the Du Preez brothers so early.

Going to be a decent game for sure.

It's strange that Reinach leapfrogged Jantjies, but maybe that's because Jantjies is better of the bench.

[handyman]

South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Cheslin Kolbe, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Cobus Reinach, 8 Jasper Wiese, 7 Franco Mostert, 6 Siya Kolisi (c), 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Frans Malherbe, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Steven Kitshoff
Replacements: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Trevor Nyakane, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Marco van Staden, 20 Kwagga Smith, 21 Herschel Jantjies, 22 Morne Steyn, 23 Damian Willemse

Mostert out of position at 7, but a natural athlete, so should be fine. Faf is a big loss, but Reinach should be up for it. Safer bench with 3 backline players.

Mostert has played 7 for the Lions. And it worked already well on saturday when he switched to 7 after Lood came on.
Cobus will be fine, especially in combination with Pollard, they are familiar from Montpellier.
Dont get the 5-3 bench, Morne is not really needed there and we are thus missing a fresh cover for lock

Agree re Steyn, if we need him, we are in deep trouble.

[Biffer]

What's happened to Faf? Delighted for Lood to get a start, now please don't get injured...

injured himself late in the game on saturday, muscle strain

Does Rassie have a video?

[handyman]

What's happened to Faf? Delighted for Lood to get a start, now please don't get injured...

injured himself late in the game on saturday, muscle strain

Does Rassie have a video?

[Hal Jordan]

Is this the first time Farrell has been dropped as opposed to rested?