Are drop-goals a dying breed?
Can't remember more than a couple this whole season - I think Libbok knocked one over for the Stormers and I think I saw one in France.....?
The RWC is starting this week - do we think any 10s out there are even practising them? They have led to a few semi-important mmoents in history:
The RWC is starting this week - do we think any 10s out there are even practising them? They have led to a few semi-important mmoents in history:
Oof.
It's also why SS was a doos for starting this thread, tempting fate, ffs.
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Awesome, awesome match, with the perfect finish
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Ross Byrne got a brilliant one at the end of the Heineken Cup final this year to snatch the win for Leinster.
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I remember it well, I'd just finished the 2nd bottle of Absinthe, & the gorgeous redhead was enthralled by my wit, & I knew it would be a good night .....Uncle fester wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:09 pm Ross Byrne got a brilliant one at the end of the Heineken Cup final this year to snatch the win for Leinster.
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They say he's been practising all week.
Honestly, while I watched every minute we did a lot of good work early first half and got nowhere near the whitewash. Moment of magic for Thomas and that strike salvaged everything.
Up to then was getting annoyed at how reductive we looked under peak Schmidt. Cue a very special year - momentum gets you a very long way.
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It can be a very risky play.
First off you need a hooker calm under pressure, & you have to execute the catch & drive perfectly, as we're increasingly seeing the attacking side pinged for folding players in front of the catcher, & being held up now means giving back possession.
If your like Ireland, & you can get by with a penalty, they ran the phases, & it was only some extraordinary discipline by France that they didn't concede one in all those phases, & Ireland had to take the drop goal, or risk coughing up a penalty, or making a mistake themselves.
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You often need a few phases to work the ball into drop goal position, and that's quite a few chances the other side gets to force a turnover or penalty given many sides don't want the ball.
Once you don't action getting through the phases to take a drop you'd be less likely to try.
Once you don't action getting through the phases to take a drop you'd be less likely to try.
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It’s a massively underused tactic if you have a decent kicker
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I tend to agree, it's always good to keep the scoreboard ticking over.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Tue Sep 05, 2023 4:59 pm It’s a massively underused tactic if you have a decent kicker
It's probably good that SA can't find a decent kicker, as with their pack they'd clean up.
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And the way her twin sister Sally might look at you...fishfoodie wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:55 pmI remember it well, I'd just finished the 2nd bottle of Absinthe, & the gorgeous redhead was enthralled by my wit, & I knew it would be a good night .....Uncle fester wrote: ↑Mon Sep 04, 2023 9:09 pm Ross Byrne got a brilliant one at the end of the Heineken Cup final this year to snatch the win for Leinster.
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You should only be allowed 2 (maybe 1) a game. Having it as a tactic and a way to win matches from the get go, can be pretty unstoppable. Rugby shouldn't be about that. But if your one drop goal is used to win a match at the death, fine.
Don't let teams get close. Sames with not giving away penalties if they have a great kicker / unstoppable driving maul. Or being sure of your handling when your scrum is shit.Line6 HXFX wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 2:21 am You should only be allowed 2 (maybe 1) a game. Having it as a tactic and a way to win matches from the get go, can be pretty unstoppable. Rugby shouldn't be about that. So if it is used to win a match at the death, fine.
Or maybe think out of the box and position a fast fcuker in a position to charge down/pressure.
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If you are only allowed one to win... in a close game, it will create tension, it is much more expected and be far more exciting.
If you are allowed unlimited drop goals, and incorporate these into your general play, rugby matches will be all about getting into position and kicking them, and yes they are pretty much unstoppable when done correctly, you have about as much hope as charging down a penalty as a drop goal.
It's not that I don't like them, it's just a shitty, cunty way to score.
If you are allowed unlimited drop goals, and incorporate these into your general play, rugby matches will be all about getting into position and kicking them, and yes they are pretty much unstoppable when done correctly, you have about as much hope as charging down a penalty as a drop goal.
It's not that I don't like them, it's just a shitty, cunty way to score.
Shittier and cuntier than cheating, such as feigning injury to get a player penalised and reduce the number of the opposing team, or continued scrum shenanigans to increase the penalty count?Line6 HXFX wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 5:24 am If you are only allowed one to win... in a close game, it will create tension, it is much more expected and be far more exciting.
If you are allowed unlimited drop goals, and incorporate these into your general play, rugby matches will be all about getting into position and kicking them, and yes they are pretty much unstoppable when done correctly, you have about as much hope as charging down a penalty as a drop goal.
It's not that I don't like them, it's just a shitty, cunty way to score.
Drop goals are legal, suck it up princess.
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That's a lot of words to say you like shitty, cunty ways to scoreLine6 HXFX wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 5:24 am If you are only allowed one to win... in a close game, it will create tension, it is much more expected and be far more exciting.
If you are allowed unlimited drop goals, and incorporate these into your general play, rugby matches will be all about getting into position and kicking them, and yes they are pretty much unstoppable when done correctly, you have about as much hope as charging down a penalty as a drop goal.
It's not that I don't like them, it's just a shitty, cunty way to score.
I'm just surprised that he didn't claim that only posh Tory teams use drop goals and that honest, toiling Wales under their Messiah, Gatland, would never resort to such underhand tactics. Of course, if it had been Wales who kicked three drop goals to create score board pressure, he'd be claiming it was a tactical masterstroke.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:14 amThat's a lot of words to say you like shitty, cunty ways to scoreLine6 HXFX wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 5:24 am If you are only allowed one to win... in a close game, it will create tension, it is much more expected and be far more exciting.
If you are allowed unlimited drop goals, and incorporate these into your general play, rugby matches will be all about getting into position and kicking them, and yes they are pretty much unstoppable when done correctly, you have about as much hope as charging down a penalty as a drop goal.
It's not that I don't like them, it's just a shitty, cunty way to score.
Sorry but that is complete bollocks as much bollocks as his post tbf.Lobby wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:57 amI'm just surprised that he didn't claim that only posh Tory teams use drop goals and that honest, toiling Wales under their Messiah, Gatland, would never resort to such underhand tactics. Of course, if it had been Wales who kicked three drop goals to create score board pressure, he'd be claiming it was a tactical masterstroke.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:14 amThat's a lot of words to say you like shitty, cunty ways to scoreLine6 HXFX wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 5:24 am If you are only allowed one to win... in a close game, it will create tension, it is much more expected and be far more exciting.
If you are allowed unlimited drop goals, and incorporate these into your general play, rugby matches will be all about getting into position and kicking them, and yes they are pretty much unstoppable when done correctly, you have about as much hope as charging down a penalty as a drop goal.
It's not that I don't like them, it's just a shitty, cunty way to score.
I will take Wales beating Fiji by doing what England did yesterday.
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‘Does the drop goal vote Conservative?’ - the greatest thread in the history of the internet, shut down after 1,246 pagesLobby wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:57 amI'm just surprised that he didn't claim that only posh Tory teams use drop goals and that honest, toiling Wales under their Messiah, Gatland, would never resort to such underhand tactics. Of course, if it had been Wales who kicked three drop goals to create score board pressure, he'd be claiming it was a tactical masterstroke.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:14 amThat's a lot of words to say you like shitty, cunty ways to scoreLine6 HXFX wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 5:24 am If you are only allowed one to win... in a close game, it will create tension, it is much more expected and be far more exciting.
If you are allowed unlimited drop goals, and incorporate these into your general play, rugby matches will be all about getting into position and kicking them, and yes they are pretty much unstoppable when done correctly, you have about as much hope as charging down a penalty as a drop goal.
It's not that I don't like them, it's just a shitty, cunty way to score.
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Its not a dig at Wales you twat, but your alter ego, RefryC69 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:09 amSorry but that is complete bollocks as much bollocks as his post tbf.Lobby wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:57 amI'm just surprised that he didn't claim that only posh Tory teams use drop goals and that honest, toiling Wales under their Messiah, Gatland, would never resort to such underhand tactics. Of course, if it had been Wales who kicked three drop goals to create score board pressure, he'd be claiming it was a tactical masterstroke.Rhubarb & Custard wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:14 am
That's a lot of words to say you like shitty, cunty ways to score
I will take Wales beating Fiji by doing what England did yesterday.
That's so 2005Lobby wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:19 amIts not a dig at Wales you twat, but your alter ego, RefryC69 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 11:09 amSorry but that is complete bollocks as much bollocks as his post tbf.Lobby wrote: ↑Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:57 am
I'm just surprised that he didn't claim that only posh Tory teams use drop goals and that honest, toiling Wales under their Messiah, Gatland, would never resort to such underhand tactics. Of course, if it had been Wales who kicked three drop goals to create score board pressure, he'd be claiming it was a tactical masterstroke.
I will take Wales beating Fiji by doing what England did yesterday.