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Posted: **Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:24 pm**

Stade de France.

Posted: **Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:56 pm**

Suppose this will be as close to a final as it get.

Posted: **Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:04 am**

This French team has no real weakness to target. You need to be the complete deal or you will get punished.

Posted: **Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:46 am**

Bloutoria wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:04 am This French team has no real weakness to target. You need to be the complete deal or you will get punished.

Libbok starting 10 then.

Posted: **Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:55 am**

Ja, and an 8-0 split

Posted: **Sun Oct 08, 2023 10:31 am**

Without being arrogant, the Boks will beat France.

Posted: **Sun Oct 08, 2023 12:01 pm**

Bloutoria wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:04 am This French team has no real weakness to target. You need to be the complete deal or you will get punished.

A bit early for playing mockers?

Posted: **Sun Oct 08, 2023 12:06 pm**

If we beat France, it will be massive. They kick a lot. The challenge will be the forwards.

Posted: **Sun Oct 08, 2023 1:30 pm**

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 12:06 pm If we beat France, it will be massive. They kick a lot. The challenge will be the forwards.

It's so similar to peak NZ. Play nothing in your half unless it's really on. Kick deep and pressurise. Ball carrier nearly always has a support option either side of him. Nothing complicated but executed very well.

Posted: **Sun Oct 08, 2023 2:55 pm**

Barnes to ref this one

Posted: **Sun Oct 08, 2023 3:07 pm**

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:56 pm Suppose this will be as close to a final as it get.

You accept this will be your last game at the RWC, ja.

Posted: **Sun Oct 08, 2023 5:56 pm**

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 3:07 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sat Oct 07, 2023 8:56 pm Suppose this will be as close to a final as it get.
You accept this will be your last game at the RWC, ja.

Ja , but can't blame Foster.

Posted: **Sun Oct 08, 2023 5:57 pm**

Bloutoria wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:04 am This French team has no real weakness to target. You need to be the complete deal or you will get punished.

One thing this tournament has shown is that a weak defence can make any side look really good, and that gives a distorted view of teams for many people. A lot of people struggle to even understand a strong defence (tight TV shots don't help), few rate teams on defence. Ireland, Scotland, Boks all played eachother, in those matches which side conceded the most tries and which the least, and who qualified?

When looking at France, basically only count the All Blacks match. But they conceded against Uruguay and Italy too. France definitely have weaknesses. They used to fall off at the end of matches, but that seems to have been fixed. Another old weakness appeared during the Italy match, weak defence on the ruck pillars and around the edges, channel one defence also giving up ground, Italian carriers made a lot of ground in that space, scored through that and should've got another that way.

Last time the Boks played them Pieter-Steph was red carded 10 minutes in, Dupont was red carded 50 minutes in, then Fourie was yellow carded on the 70th minute. It was a bit of a non-match because of the cards. Boks lost by 4 points. Boks have already shown with 14 men for 60 minutes and 13 men for 10 minutes, they can restrict France to 2 tries. Ireland showed in the 6N they can restrict France to 1 try. On the other side of the equation France are conceding points in this tournament.

Strategy seems obvious to me. Start Duane at eightman, start Pollard at 10, get both of them carrying close in, along with De Allende and Pieter-Steph, add some Faf breaks from the base. Some variations that get Kolbe and Willemse running from deep in those close in channels, probably from mauls and scrums rather than rucks. If Dupont plays, test him and make him tackle a lot. Do not kick onto their outside backs who are dangerous. Put out the maximum defence possible and do not get carded.

Boks winning looks completely possible.

Posted: **Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:46 pm**

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 12:06 pm If we beat France, it will be massive. They kick a lot. The challenge will be the forwards.

Oh, so are you supporting the Boks this week?

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 4:33 am**

Chilli wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 9:46 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 12:06 pm If we beat France, it will be massive. They kick a lot. The challenge will be the forwards.
Oh, so are you supporting the Boks this week?

Bokke Allie pad

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 6:16 am**

Got to support the boys.....this could be our last game ......

Ireland beating Scotland badly...places them on top of the current pile,

Lets hope the boys selected are on form on the day and no-one voks up with a card......so far we have been good with these , lets hope for no exception.

GO BOKKE

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 6:27 am**

Should be a tasty game. Both teams have weaknesses and the pressure on France will be immense.

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:22 am**

_Os_ wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 5:57 pm
Bloutoria wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:04 am This French team has no real weakness to target. You need to be the complete deal or you will get punished.
One thing this tournament has shown is that a weak defence can make any side look really good, and that gives a distorted view of teams for many people. A lot of people struggle to even understand a strong defence (tight TV shots don't help), few rate teams on defence. Ireland, Scotland, Boks all played eachother, in those matches which side conceded the most tries and which the least, and who qualified?

When looking at France, basically only count the All Blacks match. But they conceded against Uruguay and Italy too. France definitely have weaknesses. They used to fall off at the end of matches, but that seems to have been fixed. Another old weakness appeared during the Italy match, weak defence on the ruck pillars and around the edges, channel one defence also giving up ground, Italian carriers made a lot of ground in that space, scored through that and should've got another that way.

Last time the Boks played them Pieter-Steph was red carded 10 minutes in, Dupont was red carded 50 minutes in, then Fourie was yellow carded on the 70th minute. It was a bit of a non-match because of the cards. Boks lost by 4 points. Boks have already shown with 14 men for 60 minutes and 13 men for 10 minutes, they can restrict France to 2 tries. Ireland showed in the 6N they can restrict France to 1 try. On the other side of the equation France are conceding points in this tournament.

Strategy seems obvious to me. Start Duane at eightman, start Pollard at 10, get both of them carrying close in, along with De Allende and Pieter-Steph, add some Faf breaks from the base. Some variations that get Kolbe and Willemse running from deep in those close in channels, probably from mauls and scrums rather than rucks. If Dupont plays, test him and make him tackle a lot. Do not kick onto their outside backs who are dangerous. Put out the maximum defence possible and do not get carded.

Boks winning looks completely possible.

I agree.

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:29 am**

Os_ wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:22 am do not get carded.

This is going to be sooo difficult with France at home, 70k baying Frenchmen in the stands and the rest of the World still thinking we're filthy.

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:59 am**

Eish. Now the nerves have kicked in.

Beating the French on home turf is going to be difficult.

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:02 am**

assfly wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:59 am Eish. Now the nerves have kicked in.

Beating the French on home turf is going to be difficult.

Better than the ABs or Ireland.
The opportunity is there. Let's see how we handle it

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:04 am**

With Scotland certain they were going to qualify for the 1/4 finals 3 months ago, will those Sweaties in the crowd support France or SA?

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:33 am**

Dupont is fit

https://vibrez-rugby.com/xv-de-france-d ... ederation/

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:44 am**

laurent wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:33 am Dupont is fit

Never heard of him.

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:48 am**

assfly wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:44 am
laurent wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:33 am Dupont is fit
Never heard of him.

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:55 am**

It's a risk. If he damages it further don't blame us. It's a contact sport.
And don't expect us to play touch rugby with him.
And I would expect our guys to target him.

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:49 am**

laurent wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:33 am Dupont is fit

https://vibrez-rugby.com/xv-de-france-d ... ederation/

He's been given the go ahead to play by the surgeon. I'm not convinced he should play though.

Meantime I see SA have pulled a fast one with Mapimpi "injured" to be replaced by Am

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:16 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:49 am

Meantime I see SA have pulled a fast one with Mapimpi "injured" to be replaced by Am

We decided not to select a player with a fractured face. You chose the opposite.

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:18 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:49 am
laurent wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:33 am Dupont is fit

https://vibrez-rugby.com/xv-de-france-d ... ederation/

He's been given the go ahead to play by the surgeon. I'm not convinced he should play though.

Meantime I see SA have pulled a fast one with Mapimpi "injured" to be replaced by Am

Wait till the racist get's hurt accidentally in training and Willemse is called back.

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:21 pm**

Mapimpi is out for two months with a fractured eye socket and cheekbone. Not sure it's all that funny

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:21 pm**

Sards wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 10:55 am It's a risk. If he damages it further don't blame us. It's a contact sport.
And don't expect us to play touch rugby with him.
And I would expect our guys to target him.

And he is face to face with quite few of our strongest guys, with Rassie's "Fcuk them up in front" still ringing in their ears...

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:40 pm**

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:16 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:49 am

Meantime I see SA have pulled a fast one with Mapimpi "injured" to be replaced by Am
We decided not to select a player with a fractured face. You chose the opposite.

Dupont is yet to be selected. Although I suspect you are right, the he will be. I'm guessing Mapimpi had no chance to recover before the final.

As an aside, why wasn't Am (one of my favourite players and surely the coolest in rugby) selected at outset?

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:41 pm**

Calculon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:21 pm Mapimpi is out for two months with a fractured eye socket and cheekbone. Not sure it's all that funny

And so much for WR's initiative to cut this sht*t out. I'd wager this has been the worst RWC ever for head injuries.

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:42 pm**

laurent wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:18 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:49 am
laurent wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 9:33 am Dupont is fit

https://vibrez-rugby.com/xv-de-france-d ... ederation/

He's been given the go ahead to play by the surgeon. I'm not convinced he should play though.

Meantime I see SA have pulled a fast one with Mapimpi "injured" to be replaced by Am
Wait till the racist get's hurt accidentally in training and Willemse is called back.

Please make it so.......

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:48 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:41 pm
Calculon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:21 pm Mapimpi is out for two months with a fractured eye socket and cheekbone. Not sure it's all that funny
And so much for WR's initiative to cut this sht*t out. I'd wager this has been the worst RWC ever for head injuries.

Ball carriers not taking care to get their head out of the way.

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 6:57 pm**

Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:40 pm
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:16 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 11:49 am

Meantime I see SA have pulled a fast one with Mapimpi "injured" to be replaced by Am
We decided not to select a player with a fractured face. You chose the opposite.
Dupont is yet to be selected. Although I suspect you are right, the he will be. I'm guessing Mapimpi had no chance to recover before the final.

As an aside, why wasn't Am (one of my favourite players and surely the coolest in rugby) selected at outset?

Coming back from injury like Pollard.

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 7:43 pm**

OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 6:57 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:40 pm
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:16 pm

We decided not to select a player with a fractured face. You chose the opposite.
Dupont is yet to be selected. Although I suspect you are right, the he will be. I'm guessing Mapimpi had no chance to recover before the final.

As an aside, why wasn't Am (one of my favourite players and surely the coolest in rugby) selected at outset?
Coming back from injury like Pollard.

It's kinda weird. You heard nothing about Am during this time and suddenly he is ready.

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:37 pm**

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:48 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:41 pm
Calculon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 12:21 pm Mapimpi is out for two months with a fractured eye socket and cheekbone. Not sure it's all that funny
And so much for WR's initiative to cut this sht*t out. I'd wager this has been the worst RWC ever for head injuries.
Ball carriers not taking care to get their head out of the way.

Victim blaming, eh. Nice.

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:40 pm**

_Os_ wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 5:57 pm
Bloutoria wrote: ↑Sun Oct 08, 2023 7:04 am This French team has no real weakness to target. You need to be the complete deal or you will get punished.
One thing this tournament has shown is that a weak defence can make any side look really good, and that gives a distorted view of teams for many people. A lot of people struggle to even understand a strong defence (tight TV shots don't help), few rate teams on defence. Ireland, Scotland, Boks all played eachother, in those matches which side conceded the most tries and which the least, and who qualified?

When looking at France, basically only count the All Blacks match. But they conceded against Uruguay and Italy too. France definitely have weaknesses. They used to fall off at the end of matches, but that seems to have been fixed. Another old weakness appeared during the Italy match, weak defence on the ruck pillars and around the edges, channel one defence also giving up ground, Italian carriers made a lot of ground in that space, scored through that and should've got another that way.

Last time the Boks played them Pieter-Steph was red carded 10 minutes in, Dupont was red carded 50 minutes in, then Fourie was yellow carded on the 70th minute. It was a bit of a non-match because of the cards. Boks lost by 4 points. Boks have already shown with 14 men for 60 minutes and 13 men for 10 minutes, they can restrict France to 2 tries. Ireland showed in the 6N they can restrict France to 1 try. On the other side of the equation France are conceding points in this tournament.

Strategy seems obvious to me. Start Duane at eightman, start Pollard at 10, get both of them carrying close in, along with De Allende and Pieter-Steph, add some Faf breaks from the base. Some variations that get Kolbe and Willemse running from deep in those close in channels, probably from mauls and scrums rather than rucks. If Dupont plays, test him and make him tackle a lot. Do not kick onto their outside backs who are dangerous. Put out the maximum defence possible and do not get carded.

Boks winning looks completely possible.

I think Jalibert will fold under the pressure we bring
I predict he's going to have a terrible game

Posted: **Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:43 pm**

Guy Smiley wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 8:37 pm
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:48 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Oct 09, 2023 2:41 pm
And so much for WR's initiative to cut this sht*t out. I'd wager this has been the worst RWC ever for head injuries.
Ball carriers not taking care to get their head out of the way.
Victim blaming, eh. Nice.

It’s a joke, you silly sausage.

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