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RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:24 am
by OomStruisbaai
Stade de France.

England the big favorites.

80,000 swing low fans will lift them and revenge on the previous tournament.

France took a lot of effort from the Springboks.,

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks @ 21h00 on 21/10/23

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:27 am
by Blake
Thank fuck we are done with late night Sunday matches. These Monday mornings have been BRUTAL.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks @ 21h00 on 21/10/23

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:27 am
by OomStruisbaai
Springboks will appreciate all the URC countries and SH support for this one.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks @ 21h00 on 21/10/23

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:40 am
by Raggs
Well done boks.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks @ 21h00 on 21/10/23

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:52 am
by Calculon
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:27 am Springboks will appreciate all the URC countries and SH support for this one.
North Brits on here will all be supporting the Poms

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks @ 21h00 on 21/10/23

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:17 am
by Insane_Homer
Blake wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:27 am Thank fuck we are done with late night Sunday matches. These Monday mornings have been BRUTAL.
Airport pick-up 5am next Sunday morning :crazy:

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks @ 21h00 on 21/10/23

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:35 am
by assfly
I'm not taking this one for granted at all.

England have had an easy run in, but they're due a big performance.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks @ 21h00 on 21/10/23

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:42 am
by JM2K6
Very Alien vs Predator vibes about this one

("Whoever wins... we lose")

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks @ 21h00 on 21/10/23

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:08 am
by OomStruisbaai
Our coaches will have to sit down and plan very carefully. England aint France, totally different gameplan required.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks @ 21h00 on 21/10/23

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:09 am
by Paddington Bear
This has real potential to be utterly hilarious

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks @ 21h00 on 21/10/23

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:11 am
by assfly
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:08 am Our coaches will have to sit down and plan very carefully. England aint France, totally different gameplan required.
Absolutely. I trust Rassie and Jacques will prepare appropriately.

England are a very different beast. Lots of hot-heads in there (Genge, Farrell, Itoje). We have to go after their scrum and lineout.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks @ 21h00 on 21/10/23

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:23 am
by Sards
Blake wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:27 am Thank fuck we are done with late night Sunday matches. These Monday mornings have been BRUTAL.
I am going to finish at 3pm

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks @ 21h00 on 21/10/23

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:54 am
by Sandstorm
assfly wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:11 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:08 am Our coaches will have to sit down and plan very carefully. England aint France, totally different gameplan required.
Absolutely. I trust Rassie and Jacques will prepare appropriately.

England are a very different beast. Lots of hot-heads in there (Genge, Farrell, Itoje). We have to go after their scrum and lineout.
Just kick to Daly and May. Boks by 50

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks @ 21h00 on 21/10/23

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:07 am
by handyman
England will suit the Boks a lot more that France. I am cautiously optimistic.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:32 am
by Tichtheid
I'm not a gambler (on Saturday I got an introductory offer of 50:1 on Ireland to win and although I felt sure they were going to progress I didn't take up the offer)

However, looking at the odds for both semi final games, I won't bother posting this on both threads, you have to spend £9 on New Zealand to win £1 and £5 on South Africa to win £1.

Arg and Eng literally have the odds stacked against them.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:40 am
by petej
handyman wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:07 am England will suit the Boks a lot more that France. I am cautiously optimistic.
Stop with this nonsense. England are rubbish. 40-50 point Margin.

An easy draw and a tendency even when shit to progress into the knockouts is the only reason we are in the semifinal. We are a far worse team than France or Ireland with many players past their best. Argentina are more likely to beat NZ than England SA.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:44 am
by Gumboot
RWC head to head:

1999 QF - South Africa 44 - England 21

2007 Final - South Africa 15 - England 6

2019 Final - South Africa 32 - England 12

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:51 am
by Brazil
petej wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:40 am
handyman wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:07 am England will suit the Boks a lot more that France. I am cautiously optimistic.
Stop with this nonsense. England are rubbish. 40-50 point Margin.

An easy draw and a tendency even when shit to progress into the knockouts is the only reason we are in the semifinal. We are a far worse team than France or Ireland with many players past there best. Argentina are more likely to beat NZ than England SA.
This. Whilst there is the potential for a Lawes-led yeomanlike rearguard, I doubt that this England team have the discipline to do it and fully expect us to be playing with 14 for a good portion of the game. It has the potential to be a very humbling evening from which the coaches will learn precisely fuck all, and blame it on the negativity of the fans or something.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:55 am
by duke
Gumboot wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:44 am RWC head to head:

1999 QF - South Africa 44 - England 21

2007 Final - South Africa 15 - England 6

2019 Final - South Africa 32 - England 12
2003 and 2007 pool stages as well (one apiece)

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:58 am
by Woddy
Gumboot wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 9:44 am RWC head to head:

1999 QF - South Africa 44 - England 21

2007 Final - South Africa 15 - England 6

2019 Final - South Africa 32 - England 12
You forgot the 36-0 drubbing by SA at the start of the 2007 WC.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks @ 21h00 on 21/10/23

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:06 am
by JM2K6
assfly wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:11 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 8:08 am Our coaches will have to sit down and plan very carefully. England aint France, totally different gameplan required.
Absolutely. I trust Rassie and Jacques will prepare appropriately.

England are a very different beast. Lots of hot-heads in there (Genge, Farrell, Itoje). We have to go after their scrum and lineout.
Good news, our scrum is shit

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:10 am
by sockwithaticket
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:24 am Stade de France.

England the big favorites.

80,000 swing low fans will lift them and revenge on the previous tournament.

France took a lot of effort from the Springboks.,
That i absolutely rancid mockers bait. So rotten even flies wouldn't touch it.

The Boks are overwhelming favourites. Anything less than a 20 point victory margin will be a choke.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks @ 21h00 on 21/10/23

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:12 am
by sockwithaticket
assfly wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 7:35 am I'm not taking this one for granted at all.

England have had an easy run in, but they're due a big performance.
People have been saying that for a couple of years at this point. We don't have a big performance in us.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:24 am
by colonel
Not a lot for the neutral to get excited about

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:41 am
by OomStruisbaai
yep Springboks vs England WC matches are boring and an arm wrestle.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:43 am
by Sards
Springboks will field the B team for England and keep the A team for the ABs

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:43 am
by handyman
We do what we have to to win. Simple as.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:44 am
by handyman
Sards wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:43 am Springboks will field the B team for England and keep the A team for the ABs
Which team are you supporting these days?

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:47 am
by Sards
handyman wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:44 am
Sards wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:43 am Springboks will field the B team for England and keep the A team for the ABs
Which team are you supporting these days?
I thought I was getting old....what vokken medication are you on.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:47 am
by petej
colonel wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:24 am Not a lot for the neutral to get excited about
Competitive matches make for a good spectacle. Wouldn't be surprised to see some empty seats for the semifinals.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:51 am
by Paddington Bear
petej wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:47 am
colonel wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:24 am Not a lot for the neutral to get excited about
Competitive matches make for a good spectacle. Wouldn't be surprised to see some empty seats for the semifinals.
There were plenty of empty seats at both Marseille games. Interestingly only about half the hospitality boxes were in use

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:34 am
by Happyhooker
Paddington Bear wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:51 am
petej wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:47 am
colonel wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:24 am Not a lot for the neutral to get excited about
Competitive matches make for a good spectacle. Wouldn't be surprised to see some empty seats for the semifinals.
There were plenty of empty seats at both Marseille games. Interestingly only about half the hospitality boxes were in use
Yup, that small middle tier was quite empty.

Capacity is 67k and there were 61k+ there yesterday, a few more for the Welsh game iirc.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:36 am
by Sandstorm
Paddington Bear wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:51 am
petej wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:47 am
colonel wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:24 am Not a lot for the neutral to get excited about
Competitive matches make for a good spectacle. Wouldn't be surprised to see some empty seats for the semifinals.
There were plenty of empty seats at both Marseille games. Interestingly only about half the hospitality boxes were in use
The semi finals will likely be even less big-wigs attending now France is out.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:44 am
by Paddington Bear
Sandstorm wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 11:36 am
Paddington Bear wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:51 am
petej wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:47 am

Competitive matches make for a good spectacle. Wouldn't be surprised to see some empty seats for the semifinals.
There were plenty of empty seats at both Marseille games. Interestingly only about half the hospitality boxes were in use
The semi finals will likely be even less big-wigs attending now France is out.
They’re fortunate that whilst we’ve waved goodbye to probably the two largest fanbases it’s a nice short hop from London

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:32 pm
by Chilli
I was quite positive that we would beat France, am slightly less positive about beating England.

They play ugly rugby.............................much like we used to.

Also, our players must be exhausted after playing against France.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:37 pm
by assfly
Chilli wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:32 pm Also, our players must be exhausted after playing against France.
Indeed. I hope we haven't already played our final, the way England played theirs against NZ in 2019.

I know we shouldn't be thinking about the final already, but the battering that Eben, Franco, Kriel took was serious.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:43 pm
by Sandstorm
assfly wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:37 pm
Chilli wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:32 pm Also, our players must be exhausted after playing against France.
Indeed. I hope we haven't already played our final, the way England played theirs against NZ in 2019.

I know we shouldn't be thinking about the final already, but the battering that Eben, Franco, Kriel took was serious.
Fiji smashed into England's players too. Beach Muscles will be fine.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:50 pm
by Blake
sockwithaticket wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:10 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:24 am Stade de France.

England the big favorites.

80,000 swing low fans will lift them and revenge on the previous tournament.

France took a lot of effort from the Springboks.,
That i absolutely rancid mockers bait. So rotten even flies wouldn't touch it.

The Boks are overwhelming favourites. Anything less than a 20 point victory margin will be a choke.
England undefeated; basically playing at home. Fresher and with a point to prove after the 2019 disappointement.
Boks dropped a game, spent our load against France.

England heavy favourites.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 1:17 pm
by Chilli
Blake wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:50 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:10 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:24 am Stade de France.

England the big favorites.

80,000 swing low fans will lift them and revenge on the previous tournament.

France took a lot of effort from the Springboks.,
That i absolutely rancid mockers bait. So rotten even flies wouldn't touch it.

The Boks are overwhelming favourites. Anything less than a 20 point victory margin will be a choke.
England undefeated; basically playing at home. Fresher and with a point to prove after the 2019 disappointement.
Boks dropped a game, spent our load against France.

England heavy favourites.
The only team at the RWC that remains undefeated.

Re: RWC SF2 England vs Springboks on 21/10 @ 21h00

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2023 1:32 pm
by Raggs
Blake wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 12:50 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 10:10 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Oct 16, 2023 6:24 am Stade de France.

England the big favorites.

80,000 swing low fans will lift them and revenge on the previous tournament.

France took a lot of effort from the Springboks.,
That i absolutely rancid mockers bait. So rotten even flies wouldn't touch it.

The Boks are overwhelming favourites. Anything less than a 20 point victory margin will be a choke.
England undefeated; basically playing at home. Fresher and with a point to prove after the 2019 disappointement.
Boks dropped a game, spent our load against France.

England heavy favourites.
Christ you guys are reaching. Just look at the bookies. There's only so much mockers can take.

Just as long as you aren't insufferable about acting like you're achieving something when you beat us.