NPR

England v South Africa - Saturday 16th November, KO 17:40

Key Timings
12:30 - Car Parks open

13:30 - Ticket Office opens

14:00 - Gates open

17:40 - Kick Off

18:20* - Ticket Office closes

22:30 - Car Parks close

Referee: Andrew Brace (IRFU)
Assistant Referee 1: Chris Busby (IRFU)
Assistant Referee 2: Eoghan Cross (IRFU)
TMO: Ben Whitehouse (WRU)
FPRO: Mike Adamson (SRU)

This could be tricky for us. England has the makings of a good team that is playing badly and is badly coached.
If their forwards go to the gutter and then it is anyone's game to win.

I'm looking forward to this test.

Good to know the car park opening and closing times

assfly wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:44 am Good to know the car park opening and closing times

posted it for Ox and all our England friends.

Chilli2 wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:54 am This could be tricky for us. England has the makings of a good team that is playing badly and is badly coached.
If their forwards go to the gutter and then it is anyone's game to win.

I'm looking forward to this test.

I know you're being genuine but I properly laughed at that

We just have to stick to our formula. Just need to sort out our lineouts, and then make sure we smash them at the scrums and ruck.

England seem to be making a complete mess of the rush defence, so hopefully Pollard and le Roux can find a way through it.

assfly wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:59 am We just have to stick to our formula. Just need to sort out our lineouts, and then make sure we smash them at the scrums and ruck.

England seem to be making a complete mess of the rush defence, so hopefully Pollard and le Roux can find a way through it.

My guess is that the forwards that started this weekend will come off the bench for the English, and the forwards that finished will start....and the likes of Kolbe , KLA and Fassi will bolster the backline as well as ....shudder ......Manie

All fresh as a Rose

If England manage to keep the spread under 20 i will be surprised.

Chelsea Pensioner Dan Cole vs the bomb squad. What could go wrong.


Ted Hill called up to squad as injury replacement for Tom Curry. So he gets to be fucked around again and sent back to Bath on Friday night.

assfly wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:59 am We just have to stick to our formula. Just need to sort out our lineouts, and then make sure we smash them at the scrums and ruck.

England seem to be making a complete mess of the rush defence, so hopefully Pollard and le Roux can find a way through it.

I think Pollard is most likely going to be the only player in yesterday's backline that starts against England. With Hendrickse playing so badly yesterday it could count against Libbok starting with Hendrickse. Wet weather will count against him as well. Van Staden dropped.

But the boks have a lot of work to do this week, to many errors across the park and only really looked decent in the last 10 minutes of the game. They cannot afford another performance like that against England, we were lucky that Scotland could not capitalise on that performance the way the Argies did.

bok_viking wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 9:49 am

assfly wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:59 am We just have to stick to our formula. Just need to sort out our lineouts, and then make sure we smash them at the scrums and ruck.

England seem to be making a complete mess of the rush defence, so hopefully Pollard and le Roux can find a way through it.

I think Pollard is most likely going to be the only player in yesterday's backline that starts against England. With Hendrickse playing so badly yesterday it could count against Libbok starting with Hendrickse. Wet weather will count against him as well. Van Staden dropped.

But the boks have a lot of work to do this week, to many errors across the park and only really looked decent in the last 10 minutes of the game. They cannot afford another performance like that against England, we were lucky that Scotland could not capitalise on that performance the way the Argies did.

Agree with this, We can play the rest of the squad against Wales. It probably wont happen but I would love to see AE starting. He was brilliant on saturday.

JM2K6 wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 8:56 am

Chilli2 wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 7:54 am This could be tricky for us. England has the makings of a good team that is playing badly and is badly coached.
If their forwards go to the gutter and then it is anyone's game to win.

I'm looking forward to this test.

I know you're being genuine but I properly laughed at that

20 point margin seems about right. The odds point towards an uncompetitive match and easy SA win. The only way England could win is an early red card for a SA player. Our defence is awful and SA are a far better side than Australia. Borthwick needed to win 1 of these 3 fixtures. Outside of a hate watch I have better ways of spending my weekend than watching an uncompetitive rugby match.

petej wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:31 am Outside of a hate watch I have better ways of spending my weekend than watching an uncompetitive rugby match.

Booooo

petej wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 10:31 am 20 point margin seems about right. The odds point towards an uncompetitive match and easy SA win. The only way England could win is an early red card for a SA player. Our defence is awful and SA are a far better side than Australia. Borthwick needed to win 1 of these 3 fixtures. Outside of a hate watch I have better ways of spending my weekend than watching an uncompetitive rugby match.

Don't be silly. All of England's recent games have been close affairs. This one will also be close.

In France we were very lucky to beat England. They dominate us for 70 minutes.

England do have a habit of pulling out a one off shock performance recently - see Ireland a couple of times, and that was a tought old game for SA yesterday.

England by 4

Slick wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:22 pm England do have a habit of pulling out a one off shock performance recently - see Ireland a couple of times, and that was a tought old game for SA yesterday.

England by 4

You could be right.

Bok players turned up yesterday in Edinburgh and strolled around for 65 minutes. Rassie was punching his desk in frustration in the first half. No way the Boks will take England for granted and they'll be "on it" from minute 1.

England by 2

Sandstorm wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:43 pm Bok players turned up yesterday in Edinburgh and strolled around for 65 minutes. Rassie was punching his desk in frustration in the first half. No way the Boks will take England for granted and they'll be "on it" from minute 1.

England by 2

There is always that something special when we play England and the All Blacks. It come from deep in our history. Rassie sure will use it.

Unequestionably a South Africa win. What's up for debate is the margin of victory and it's either going to be incredibly close or a real blowout, don't see much room for in between.

If we don't get our defence sorted out the SA back three will shred us out wide and run up a score.

sockwithaticket wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:31 pm Unequestionably a South Africa win. Question is the margin of victory and it's either going to be incredibly close or a real blowout, don't see much room for in between.

If we don't get our defence sorted out the SA back three will shred us out wide and run up a score.

Can't see us going from missing 36 tackles to solid in the space of a week.

The Boks have a choice:

a) run into the England defensive line, and win.
b) run around it, and win by a lot.

Meh

Sards wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 2:51 pmMeh

Fassi is going to start. You must have two boxes of Kleenex ready to pump.

Sandstorm wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 12:43 pm Bok players turned up yesterday in Edinburgh and strolled around for 65 minutes. Rassie was punching his desk in frustration in the first half. No way the Boks will take England for granted and they'll be "on it" from minute 1.

England by 2

Scotland are better than England. They have beaten England the last 4 times they've played them. Boks strolled around for 65 minutes and won against Scotland but will be on it from minute 1 against England and lose.

Feyi-wabosi and Curry are out. Borthwick has called up jonny may and billy vunipola.

Expect no surprises in the bok 23, except maybe who starts at 10. Libbok should never come on to close out a game, so I would have him starting

Steenkamp
Bongi
Wilco
Eben
Mostert
Kolisi
PSdT
Wiese
Reinach
Libbok
KLA
DDA
Kriel
Kolbe
Fassi

Ox
Marx
Koch
RG
Louw
Kwagga
Grant
Pollard

boere wors wrote: Mon Nov 11, 2024 11:08 pm Expect no surprises in the bok 23, except maybe who starts at 10. Libbok should never come on to close out a game, so I would have him starting

Steenkamp
Bongi
Wilco
Eben
Mostert
Kolisi
PSdT
Wiese
Reinach
Libbok
KLA
DDA
Kriel
Kolbe
Fassi

Ox
Marx
Koch
RG
Louw
Kwagga
Grant
Pollard

They learnt from the Aussies. Run the English into the ground. Sounds a decent plan to me

Sards wrote: Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:37 pm They learnt from the Aussies. Run the English into the ground. Sounds a decent plan to me

Ja that was fun to watch

Team to be announce on thursday. Expect surprises.

The only question is; will we lose by a little, or by a lot ?

England are talking a very good game on social media......boks are shaking in their boots probably.
Forcing Rassie to only announce his team on thursday whilst he formulates a plan to couter this threat

Sounds interesting, got some examples of this?

Sards wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:46 am England are talking a very good game on social media......boks are shaking in their boots probably.
Forcing Rassie to only announce his team on thursday whilst he formulates a plan to couter this threat

Really ? I’m not a media hog especially , but all I’ve seen are variations of :
England are shit
Borthwick is a cunt
Ireland are worlds best team
Kolisi getting divorced

JM2K6 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:08 am Sounds interesting, got some examples of this?

Sards get his info from Facebook

OomStruisbaai wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:29 am

JM2K6 wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:08 am Sounds interesting, got some examples of this?

Sards get his info from Facebook

And his tattoos from RNIB

Yeeb wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:15 am

Sards wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:46 am England are talking a very good game on social media......boks are shaking in their boots probably.
Forcing Rassie to only announce his team on thursday whilst he formulates a plan to couter this threat

Really ? I’m not a media hog especially , but all I’ve seen are variations of :
England are shit
Borthwick is a cunt
Ireland are worlds best team
Kolisi getting divorced

Sards is just being naïve. He is confusing people associated with the media like TNT or a newspaper or others who monetise the game wanting to get viewers or readers by hyping the game for commercial reasons with people genuinely thinking England will be competitive. Facebook was a complete shit show of advertising and misinformation when I left it 2 years ago and probably hasn't got any better.

Yeeb wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 8:15 am

Sards wrote: Wed Nov 13, 2024 6:46 am England are talking a very good game on social media......boks are shaking in their boots probably.
Forcing Rassie to only announce his team on thursday whilst he formulates a plan to couter this threat

Really ? I’m not a media hog especially , but all I’ve seen are variations of :
England are shit
Borthwick is a cunt
Ireland are worlds best team
Kolisi getting divorced

All I see is

The bomb squad makes the game unsafe.
WR must reduce the number of replacements
Springbok players are all giants.
Rassie is a wit kant.
Playing the Springboks is unfair.

Springbok team to face England in London:

15 – Aphelele Fassi (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 9 caps, 30 points (6t)
14 – Cheslin Kolbe (Suntory Sungoliath) – 38 caps, 101 points (16t, 3c, 5p)
13 – Jesse Kriel (Canon Eagles) – 77 caps, 90 points (18t)
12 – Damian de Allende (Wild Knights) – 85 caps, 55 points (11t)
11 – Kurt-Lee Arendse (Vodacom Bulls) – 22 caps, 85 points (17t)
10 – Manie Libbok (DHL Stormers) – 18 caps, 94 pts (1t, 28c, 11p)
9 – Grant Williams (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 16 caps, 15 points (3t)

8 – Jasper Wiese (Urayasu D-Rocks) – 32 caps, 10 points (2t)
7 – Pieter-Steph du Toit (Toyota Verblitz) – 85 caps, 55 points (11t)
6 – Siya Kolisi (captain, Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 90 caps, 60 points (12t)
5 – RG Snyman (Leinster) – 38 caps, 10 points (2t)
4 – Eben Etzebeth (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 129 caps, 30 points (6t)
3 – Wilco Louw (Vodacom Bulls) – 14 caps, 0 points
2 – Bongi Mbonambi (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 76 caps, 75 points (15t)
1 – Ox Nche (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 38 caps, 0 points

Replacements:

16 – Malcolm Marx (Kubota Spears) – 74 caps, 105 points (21t)
17 – Gerhard Steenekamp (Vodacom Bulls) – 9 caps, 0 points
18 – Vincent Koch (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 59 caps, 0 points
19 – Elrigh Louw (Vodacom Bulls) – 11 caps, 0 points
20 – Kwagga Smith (Shizuoka Blue Revs) – 50 caps, 45 points (9t)
21 – Cobus Reinach (Montpellier) – 37 caps, 70 pts (14t)
22 – Handre Pollard (Leicester Tigers) – 78 caps, 767 points (7t, 108c, 167p, 5dg)
23 – Lukhanyo Am (Hollywoodbets Sharks) – 41 caps, 35 pts (7t)