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Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 9:20 am
by Chilli
The 2 poor cousins of the Currie Cup Matches this weekend

Game 1

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Played in Bloemfontein at 16h30

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Teams:
Cheetahs: 15 Clayton Blommetjies 14 Malcolm Jaer 13 Benhard Janse van Rensburg 12 Frans Steyn 11 Rosko Specman 10 Tian Schoeman 9 Ruan Pienaar (captain) 8 Jasper Wiese 7 Junior Pokomela 6 Andisa Ntsila 5 Walt Steenkamp 4 Carl Wegner 3 Luan de Bruin 2 Reinach Venter 1 Charles Marais.

Bench: 16 Louis van der Westhuizen 17 Boan Venter 18 Erich de Jager 19 JP du Preez 20 Chris Massyn 21 Aidon Davis 22 Tian Meyer 23 William Small-Smith.


Pumas: 15 Devon Williams 14 Luther Obi 13 Wayne van der Bank 12 Ryan Nell (captain) 11 Neil Maritz 10 Eddie Fouché 9 Ginter Smuts 8 Willie Engelbrecht 7 Kwanda Dimaza 6 Daniel Maartens 5 Cameron Lindsay 4 Le Roux Roets 3 Ruan Kramer 2 Marko Janse van Rensburg 1 Morgan Naudé.

Bench: 16 Simon Westraadt 17 Liam Hendricks 18 Dewald Maritz 19 Darrien Landsberg 20 Jeandré Rudolph 21 Dian Badenhorst 22 Niel Marais 23 Ruwellyn Isbell.

Game 2

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Played in Pretoria @ 19h00

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Teams

Teams For Loftus Versfeld

Bulls: 15 Gio Aplon 14 Travis Ismaiel 13 Stedman Gans 12 Cornal Hendricks 11 David Kriel 10 Morné Steyn 9 Ivan van Zyl 8 Tim Agaba 7 Arno Botha (captain), 6 Marco van Staden 5 Ruan Nortje 4 Jason Jenkins 3 Trevor Nyakane 2 Corniel Els 1 Jacques van Rooyen.

Bench: 16 Johan Grobbelaar 17 Lizo Gqoboka 18 Mornay Smith 19 Sintu Manjezi 20 Elrigh Louw 21 Embrose Papier 22 Chris Smith 23 Marco Jansen van Vuren.

Non-playing subs: 24 Jan Uys 25 Duane Vermeulen, 26 Jade Stighling.

Griquas: 15 Anthony Volminck 14 Daniel Kasende 13 Haarlon Klaasen 12 André Swarts 11 James Verity-Amm 10 George Whitehead (captain) 9 Zak Burger 8 Niell Jordaan 7 Stefan Willemse 6 Carl Els 5 Victor Sekekete 4 Ian Groenewald 3 John-Roy Jenkinson 2 HJ Luus 1 Mox Mxoli.

Bench (from): 16 Alandré van Rooyen 17 Bandisa Ndlovu 18 Madot Mabokela 19 Adré Smith 20 Zandre Jordaan 21 Gideon van der Merwe 22 Ashlon Davids 23 Berton Klaasen 24 Mzwanele Zito 25 Johan Momsen 26 Bjorn Basson.

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 6:34 pm
by Chilli
Bjorn Basson is still playing?

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2020 7:08 pm
by ‘tsek
Can Griekwas do a 1970 to the Bulls. They have a Swarts in the team, might need more than two tries this time though.

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Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:49 pm
by Chilli
Ben10 is living up to his potential since arriving in Bloem.

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:55 pm
by Chilli
How Clayton Blommetjies is paid to play Rugby is beyond me

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:58 pm
by Chilli
Great mullet on the Pumas lock.

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:59 pm
by Chilli
Fit Frans creates a great try.

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 3:03 pm
by Chilli
34-3

Not looking flash for the Pumas

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 3:09 pm
by Chilli
Chilli wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:58 pm Great mullet on the Pumas lock.
Ex Sharks player Le Poux Roets

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 3:14 pm
by Chilli
41- 3 at lemoentyd.

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 3:51 pm
by Sandstorm
Pumas bench looking ok.
53-17 63 mins

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:12 pm
by Sandstorm
Cheaters win 53-31 after a great comeback by the Pumas. If they had a better 10 than Fouche, they’d be a danger to the Big Boys

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:20 pm
by Chilli
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 4:12 pm Cheaters win 53-31 after a great comeback by the Pumas. If they had a better 10 than Fouche, they’d be a danger to the Big Boys
Yeah, they are not a bad team

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:28 pm
by Blake
Ismaiel butchered an certain try there. Terrible play.

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:35 pm
by Blake
Griquas came to play. Always ‘n banana peel team to play against early in the season.

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:38 pm
by Sandstorm
Blake wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:35 pm Griquas came to play. Always ‘n banana peel team to play against early in the season.
Their defence is outstanding

10-3 Griquas 37 mins

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:44 pm
by Sandstorm
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:38 pm
Blake wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:35 pm Griquas came to play. Always ‘n banana peel team to play against early in the season.
Their defence is outstanding

10-3 Griquas 37 mins
Just as I say it, the missed tackle leads to Bulls try

10-10 HT

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 5:53 pm
by Blake
Ja, we jinxed them.

Crucial blow by the Bulls after the halftime hooter.
Great interplay between the 2 Bulls locks.

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:01 pm
by Sandstorm
Bulls come out for 2nd half in their Cheetahs jerseys

And it doesn’t work: Volmink grabs interception and runs 50m to score :clap:

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:02 pm
by Chilli
Good game by the Griquas.

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:05 pm
by Sandstorm
Ball retention by both teams is pants

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:10 pm
by Blake
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:01 pm Bulls come out for 2nd half in their Cheetahs jerseys

And it doesn’t work: Volmink grabs interception and runs 50m to score :clap:
What is it with teams nowadays unable to coordinate jerseys so they don’t clash? There was a similar incident earlier in the year as well.

This stupid concept of an “away strip” is to blame. Teams should have a normal jersey and an alternate jersey, and if a visiting team jersey clashes the hosts should wear the alternate. It was a great rugby tradition that I really liked.

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:14 pm
by Sandstorm
Blake wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:10 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:01 pm Bulls come out for 2nd half in their Cheetahs jerseys

And it doesn’t work: Volmink grabs interception and runs 50m to score :clap:
What is it with teams nowadays unable to coordinate jerseys so they don’t clash? There was a similar incident earlier in the year as well.

This stupid concept of an “away strip” is to blame. Teams should have a normal jersey and an alternate jersey, and if a visiting team jersey clashes the hosts should wear the alternate. It was a great rugby tradition that I really liked.
It’s embarrassing. Teams know 6 months in advance who they are playing.

Sort out the jerseys at the start of the season - visiting team has to bring the alternate IMO.

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:17 pm
by Sandstorm
Bulls power gets them a penalty try. They are finding their feet now

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:21 pm
by Blake
Sandstorm wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:14 pm It’s embarrassing. Teams know 6 months in advance who they are playing.

Sort out the jerseys at the start of the season - visiting team has to bring the alternate IMO.
I like the nostalgic element of the host team accommodating the touring team who would want to limit their luggage and travel with minimal kit.

It’s something that speaks to the ethos of rugby and something that is quite unique in the sporting world as far as I am aware.

I understand why it was changed, and that it makes commercial sense, but I just liked the idea behind the old way of thinking about it.

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:29 pm
by Chilli
The Griquas are a well coached team.

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:33 pm
by Chilli
It should be the end of the 'Kwas now

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:35 pm
by Chilli
Chilli wrote: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:33 pm It should be the end of the 'Kwas now
Bloody Hell.
'Kwas score.

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:37 pm
by Chilli
Patrice Motsepe will not be happy

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:42 pm
by Chilli
A visit to Kimberly will not be easy for any team

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sat Oct 10, 2020 6:48 pm
by Chilli
A half decent win by the Bulls.

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:32 am
by assfly
Griquas are going to give the big teams a lot of headaches this season. They probably just need one or two big signings or class players for them to really compete for the top spot.

I forgot how much Morne kicks :crazy:

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:36 am
by Sandstorm
assfly wrote: Sun Oct 11, 2020 8:32 am Griquas are going to give the big teams a lot of headaches this season. They probably just need one or two big signings or class players for them to really compete for the top spot.

I forgot how much Morne kicks :crazy:
Almost as much as Frans Steyn

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 9:50 am
by sunnybanana
Almost as bad as the jersey clash in the Bulls game was Owen Nkumane’s continuous butchering of Stedman Gans’ name in commentary.

Started off as “Grans” then morphed to “Gransman” then flipped to “Stegman” after which he clarified that he was talking about “Stegman Grans” :thumbdown:

These smileys are fucking shit.

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:19 am
by average joe
The Pumas jersey looks like they are wearing grey crop tops with their sunburned boeps hanging out.

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:46 am
by bok_viking
average joe wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:19 am The Pumas jersey looks like they are wearing grey crop tops with their sunburned boeps hanging out.
Well to be fair, the Pumas have always had Grey Jerseys traditionally, even under the old South Eastern Transvaal it was Grey with red collar, at the time when I played Craven week for them. Maybe the modern tight fit jerseys does not work well with grey and forwards :lolno: These modern tight fit rugby jerseys are definitely not designed with the traditional forward in mind, unless you have a decent body build they do not fit well at all :lol:

You just have to walk around shopping malls in SA to see how ill fitting these tops can be with supporters and their bier boeps walking around in their replica tops :grin: :lol:

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:57 am
by bok_viking
The Bulls were far from clinical on Saturday, they allowed loads of try scoring opportunities pass them by. Specially with turnovers close to the opposition try line. The Bulls forwards were very poor in lose play throughout the match in my opinion. They rarely hit the rucks hard. Most times they did not seem to hit the rucks at all. Every time a Bulls player got close to the Griquas try line, the Griquas players swarmed over the tackle area and got the turnover, with almost no Bulls players in sight. The all seemed to think it was ok to stand around in the back line and wait for the ball instead of going to secure it first. I think they badly underestimated the Griquas team and once they realized this was not going to be an easy game, they could not switch gears. Griquas played very well and as others said, they could definitely give other teams headaches in the coming games, if they are not fully on the ball.

Pumas had a horrific first half against the Cheetahs but I enjoyed watching the 2nd half where they were much more competitive.

Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:46 am
by average joe
bok_viking wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:46 am
average joe wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:19 am The Pumas jersey looks like they are wearing grey crop tops with their sunburned boeps hanging out.
Well to be fair, the Pumas have always had Grey Jerseys traditionally, even under the old South Eastern Transvaal it was Grey with red collar, at the time when I played Craven week for them. Maybe the modern tight fit jerseys does not work well with grey and forwards :lolno: These modern tight fit rugby jerseys are definitely not designed with the traditional forward in mind, unless you have a decent body build they do not fit well at all :lol:

You just have to walk around shopping malls in SA to see how ill fitting these tops can be with supporters and their bier boeps walking around in their replica tops :grin: :lol:
Nothing wrong with the grey. The pink at the bottom made it look funny on screen. Probably looks OK from close up but from a distance it looked like sunburned piggy's.

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Re: Merged Match Freds: Cheetahs / Pumas & Bulls / Griquas

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2020 1:15 pm
by bok_viking
average joe wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 11:46 am
bok_viking wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 8:46 am
average joe wrote: Mon Oct 12, 2020 5:19 am The Pumas jersey looks like they are wearing grey crop tops with their sunburned boeps hanging out.
Well to be fair, the Pumas have always had Grey Jerseys traditionally, even under the old South Eastern Transvaal it was Grey with red collar, at the time when I played Craven week for them. Maybe the modern tight fit jerseys does not work well with grey and forwards :lolno: These modern tight fit rugby jerseys are definitely not designed with the traditional forward in mind, unless you have a decent body build they do not fit well at all :lol:

You just have to walk around shopping malls in SA to see how ill fitting these tops can be with supporters and their bier boeps walking around in their replica tops :grin: :lol:
Nothing wrong with the grey. The pink at the bottom made it look funny on screen. Probably looks OK from close up but from a distance it looked like sunburned piggy's.

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Yeah i personally do not like the whole red/pink gradient at the bottom of the jerseys. I would prefer a predominantly Grey jersey with a few Red trims.