The Underhill decision is not on one group of officials - this is the standard now. Find any possible reason to lower the sanction based on either degree of force or mitigation.
Back when it was the high tackle framework there would be a forensic examination of whether there was a significant ...
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- Fri May 23, 2025 8:25 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
- Replies: 2422
- Views: 61349
- Fri May 23, 2025 10:58 am
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 22587
- Views: 1615223
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
I wonder what, if anything, this means for Mikey Jones? Jones is a couple of years older and yet to really make an impact.
Second LHP Edinburgh have signed for 25/26, with only one outgoing so far. Wouldn't expect White to see much game time with the 1s in 25/26.
Venter will almost ...
- Sat May 17, 2025 9:24 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: URC Season 2024/2025 Official Thread
- Replies: 1274
- Views: 63201
Re: URC Season 2024/2025 Official Thread
Semi-final bracket:
1. Leinster or 8. Scarlets
v
4. Glasgow or 5. Stormers
2. Bulls or 7. Edinburgh
v
3. Sharks or 6. Munster
Higher seeded side will have home advantage.
1. Leinster or 8. Scarlets
v
4. Glasgow or 5. Stormers
2. Bulls or 7. Edinburgh
v
3. Sharks or 6. Munster
Higher seeded side will have home advantage.
- Sat May 17, 2025 1:38 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Official English Rugby Thread
- Replies: 20403
- Views: 1046586
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
A non-BP win still puts Saracens ahead of Bristol on tiebreakers.Kawazaki wrote: Sat May 17, 2025 11:51 amPaddington Bear wrote: Fri May 16, 2025 11:21 pm Lot of rugby still to run so can’t totally pre-judge, but Bristol haven’t looked like a playoff team for months now
Obvious statement but Sarries really need to beat Saints with a bonus point. That pushes Bristol out.
- Fri May 16, 2025 9:36 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: URC Season 2024/2025 Official Thread
- Replies: 1274
- Views: 63201
Re: URC Season 2024/2025 Official Thread
Ball had reached the plane of touch therefore the kick from Zas doesn't keep it in play. Third try shouldn't have stood for the Stormers.
It's not quite as simple as that.
https://www.the42.ie/rugby-laws-touch-knowledge-5137115-Jun2020/
Yeah my bad for focusing on the ball and not the ...
- Fri May 16, 2025 7:20 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 22587
- Views: 1615223
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
https://twitter.com/topofthemoonGW/status/1923401522295038432
So 1 point for Cardiff. So we want one of Benetton or Munster to smash the other and any Edinburgh win?
Any win for Edinburgh is now enough bar one specific circumstance - a draw in Cork with Munster also collecting the try BP ...
- Fri May 16, 2025 5:44 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: URC Season 2024/2025 Official Thread
- Replies: 1274
- Views: 63201
Re: URC Season 2024/2025 Official Thread
Ball had reached the plane of touch therefore the kick from Zas doesn't keep it in play. Third try shouldn't have stood for the Stormers.
- Fri May 16, 2025 3:34 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 22587
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- Fri May 16, 2025 12:25 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 22587
- Views: 1615223
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
He should go with the 20s.
They have a tough set of fixtures and he'll get a lot out of it. It is important that they try and avoid relegation.
I’ve just looked at our pool fixtures. F***ing hell. Hopefully there is at least one team there we can beat. Spain?
Pool stages will be a write ...
- Thu May 15, 2025 5:42 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 22587
- Views: 1615223
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Must win game for Edinburgh and Everitt does make it more risky to play Douglas.
Yup, if only he'd had lots of opportunities up to now he might be pushing for a starting place, as it is we'll go into next season without Ritchie and maybe Boyle still recovering and McConnell and Douglas ...
- Sun May 11, 2025 10:27 am
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Official English Rugby Thread
- Replies: 20403
- Views: 1046586
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
Amazingly, Saracens have ended up in fourth after this round of matches and must now be favourites to finish in that fourth position.
Fifth on points difference!
First tiebreaker is wins (currently Sale 10, Saracens 9) which is a big advantage for Sale if they match Sarries' results in the ...
- Thu May 08, 2025 3:09 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
- Replies: 412
- Views: 25342
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Jack Conan 1.93m / 111kg
Tom Curry 1.85m / 110kg
Ben Earl 1.89m / 102kg
Jac Morgan 1.82m / 104kg
Henry Pollock 1.88m / 102kg
Josh van der Flier 1.83m / 105kg
You've got to imagine that back row selection would have looked a little different if they were taking on the Springboks or All Blacks ...
- Thu May 08, 2025 2:47 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
- Replies: 412
- Views: 25342
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Jack Conan 1.93m / 111kg
Tom Curry 1.85m / 110kg
Ben Earl 1.89m / 102kg
Jac Morgan 1.82m / 104kg
Henry Pollock 1.88m / 102kg
Josh van der Flier 1.83m / 105kg
You've got to imagine that back row selection would have looked a little different if they were taking on the Springboks or All Blacks.
As ...
Tom Curry 1.85m / 110kg
Ben Earl 1.89m / 102kg
Jac Morgan 1.82m / 104kg
Henry Pollock 1.88m / 102kg
Josh van der Flier 1.83m / 105kg
You've got to imagine that back row selection would have looked a little different if they were taking on the Springboks or All Blacks.
As ...
- Tue May 06, 2025 11:26 am
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
- Replies: 412
- Views: 25342
Re: B&I Lions 2025 Official Thread
Not familiar with either of them, tbh. What do you think puts them in contention, and who they replace?
Freddie Douglas is a bit fanciful to be honest, but young Edinburgh flanker who completely outplayed golden bollocks Pollock when they faced each other at U20's level. Unfortunately ...
- Sun May 04, 2025 11:36 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
- Replies: 2422
- Views: 61349
- Sun May 04, 2025 1:24 am
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
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Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
If you're not on your feet then you're out of the game.
the ball was on the line/touching the flag (not the base as the ref said), ergo in goal. There is no off-feet in goal.
Of course if it was a penalty at all it should have been a penalty try anyway.
But, it would have been daylight ...
- Sun Apr 20, 2025 5:13 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: URC Season 2024/2025 Official Thread
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- Views: 63201
Re: URC Season 2024/2025 Official Thread
Because he was the listed lhp replacement.
He's a break glass in case of emergency sub for thp.
Would 2 THs going down injured, uncontested scrums and being forced down to 14 not constitute a break glass situation? Or have Munster opted not to mark him as suitably trained and experienced ...
- Sun Apr 20, 2025 3:36 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: URC Season 2024/2025 Official Thread
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- Views: 63201
Re: URC Season 2024/2025 Official Thread
I know you're dense but when both TH props are injured and one of them is a HIA, you have fulfilled your obligation. Munster should not have had to drop to 14.
Why was Mark Donnelly not able to come on at tighthead? Played there for Ireland u20s and u18s and also listed as replacement TH ...
- Sun Apr 20, 2025 12:34 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: URC Season 2024/2025 Official Thread
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- Views: 63201
Re: URC Season 2024/2025 Official Thread
Bulls take it in the end. That uncontested scruum tactic by Munster is a shame for rugby.
I know you're dense but when both TH props are injured and one of them is a HIA, you have fulfilled your obligation. Munster should not have had to drop to 14.
Why was Mark Donnelly not able to come on ...
- Sat Apr 12, 2025 4:14 am
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
- Replies: 2422
- Views: 61349
Re: 2024/2025 Not Heineken Cup
RG Snyman has now played more minutes for Leinster (189 days between first and most recent games) than he did for Munster (1,759 days between first and last games).
- Fri Apr 11, 2025 4:49 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 22587
- Views: 1615223
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
There are more Test caps among the players on Glasgow's current injured list (316) than there are in the entire Warriors' 23 for the Champions Cup quarter-final against Leinster (312).
- Sun Apr 06, 2025 5:48 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 22587
- Views: 1615223
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Glasgow have never beaten Leinster in a knock out game.
It would be fucking monumental if they did it.
Yeah would be the best result in Scottish rugby for the last twenty odd years easily.
Not even close, even if Glasgow beat Leinster in Dublin , it's just one game, you don't get a ...
- Sat Mar 22, 2025 7:14 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: Women's Rugby Thread
- Replies: 1128
- Views: 71182
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
Yeah, we were just asking that. Is that correct under the rules?
Six Nations press release on 20 minute reds states that 2 yellows will now always equal a 20 minute red:
The 20-minute red card applies to technical offences. The offending team can replace the removed player, to punish the ...
- Sat Mar 22, 2025 7:07 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: Women's Rugby Thread
- Replies: 1128
- Views: 71182
Re: Women's Rugby Thread
I didn't realise that a player sent off for two yellows could be replaced after 20 minutes.
Yeah, we were just asking that. Is that correct under the rules?
Six Nations press release on 20 minute reds states that 2 yellows will now always equal a 20 minute red:
The 20-minute red card ...
- Thu Mar 20, 2025 11:37 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 2025 6N thread
- Replies: 3138
- Views: 116059
Re: 2025 6N thread
3 match ban after admitting guilt. More than I expected, was waiting for WR to "circle the wagons".
What do they do with the ref and TMO here? I never want a ref hung out to dry but when it's such an outrageous error, using the same footage everyone else has seen, that had such a big impact ...
- Thu Mar 20, 2025 6:26 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 2025 6N thread
- Replies: 3138
- Views: 116059
Re: 2025 6N thread
There were only two match officials who were awarded more than a single game as ref during the current Six Nations - which you would think would give some indication where they are considered to rank in the current pecking order of top tier officials.
One is Matthew Carley, the ref for France v ...
One is Matthew Carley, the ref for France v ...
- Mon Mar 17, 2025 7:43 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 22587
- Views: 1615223
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
I was just thinking, apropos of nothing, about the back line of Scottish qualified by blood players who've declined to play for us.
Christie, Smith, Dingwall, McKenzie, McConnachie. Chuck that in with our actual backline and the squad would be oozing talent.
I think we rejected McConnochie - or ...
- Mon Mar 17, 2025 1:33 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: URC Season 2024/2025 Official Thread
- Replies: 1274
- Views: 63201
- Sun Mar 16, 2025 8:45 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: URC Season 2024/2025 Official Thread
- Replies: 1274
- Views: 63201
- Sun Mar 16, 2025 10:37 am
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: DuPont Injury
- Replies: 187
- Views: 11438
Re: DuPont Injury
After Antoine Dupont was forced off last week after a nasty collision at the breakdown, it was disappointing to see yet another breakdown incident result in an injury, this time to Italian lock Dino Lamb. Last time out the citing commissioner did not believe the actions of Andrew Porter and Tadhg ...
- Sat Mar 15, 2025 10:44 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 22587
- Views: 1615223
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
If injuries, loss of form, geographical restrictions weren't a thing we could put out a pack and replacements of:
Schoeman
Turner
Fagerson
Cummings
Gilchrist / R. Gray
Onyeama-Christie
Darge / Ritchie
Dempsey
Richardson
Sutherland
Who knows
Williamson
Brown
Fagerson
Which might have lasted longer ...
Schoeman
Turner
Fagerson
Cummings
Gilchrist / R. Gray
Onyeama-Christie
Darge / Ritchie
Dempsey
Richardson
Sutherland
Who knows
Williamson
Brown
Fagerson
Which might have lasted longer ...
- Sat Mar 15, 2025 10:31 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 2025 6N thread
- Replies: 3138
- Views: 116059
Re: 2025 6N thread
How many phases of playback he go back?
There were two rucks after the tackle on Kinghorn.
Three rucks after the elbow in touch but since the new TMO Protocol came in in January they can now go back through the entire attacking passage of play for decisions on in touch (and knock ons and ...
- Sat Mar 15, 2025 4:19 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 2025 6N thread
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- Views: 116059
Re: 2025 6N thread
Clear forward from green first, then blue. Green offside. Pen to blue.
Spot on.
Under the Protocol the only Laws that the TMO can go back that far for are knock-on; throw forward; touch and lineout; and foul play.
I'd be interested to know for certain the interpretation of the Protocol but ...
- Thu Mar 13, 2025 2:29 am
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: Lions Squad - Who's In?
- Replies: 323
- Views: 23858
Re: Lions Squad - Who's In?
Jones is a more finessed version of Jiffy June, picks great lines and that works perfectly with a passer like Russell. Never really seen him as a distributor in his own right.
Jones is a crow-bar, VERY seldom passes the ball. Like most 13s in modern Rugby.... :sad:
24 passes so far in the ...
- Sun Mar 09, 2025 5:01 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 22587
- Views: 1615223
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
The half backs take a lot of the blame for me as well as the forwards.
Horne was content to let the forwards pick and go when he should have been screaming for them to leave it. Jordan should also have been giving Horne verbals to get the ball moving.
Against France last year with 80 ...
- Sun Mar 09, 2025 11:51 am
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 22587
- Views: 1615223
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
The half backs take a lot of the blame for me as well as the forwards.
Horne was content to let the forwards pick and go when he should have been screaming for them to leave it. Jordan should also have been giving Horne verbals to get the ball moving.
Against France last year with 80 minutes on ...
- Sun Mar 09, 2025 2:10 am
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 22587
- Views: 1615223
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Best tight 5 of the pro era was probably Dickinson - Ford - Nel - Gray - Gray around 2015 / 2016.
- Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:41 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 22587
- Views: 1615223
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Venter qualifies in February 2026. He signed for Edinburgh 'with immediate effect' on 10th February 2021 so I think the first game he will be eligible for is round 2 of the 2026 Six Nations.
Do you know if he can be named in the squad before the championship or does someone gallantly have to ...
- Sat Mar 08, 2025 10:37 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 22587
- Views: 1615223
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
Tighthead and hooker are the big problems in the forwards. We have Venter qualifying in the summer as others have said plus we have 4 or 5 locks better than Gray. Gilcho is a limited but decent player, he’s not done at this level just yet. Back row is fine.
In the backs we have nothing ...
- Sat Mar 08, 2025 9:02 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
- Replies: 22587
- Views: 1615223
Re: The Official Scottish Rugby Thread
The drop off from our 1s to 2s is so depressingly massive.
Tighthead and hooker are the big problems in the forwards. We have Venter qualifying in the summer as others have said plus we have 4 or 5 locks better than Gray. Gilcho is a limited but decent player, he’s not done at this level just ...