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- Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:06 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Official English Rugby Thread
- Replies: 18279
- Views: 552189
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
I reckon you'll find the change either happened slowly over time, or came about with professionalism. Wilko taking kicks was expected. NZ had Merhtens then Carter. Aussies clung on to the older ways because Larkham was not good off the tee but they had multiple alternatives elsewhere. SA had good ki...
- Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:27 am
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: Official U20 Six Nations 2024 Thread
- Replies: 263
- Views: 6953
Re: Official U20 Six Nations 2024 Thread
Sounds like a poach, sad to see France can't develop its own players, etc etcMargin__Walker wrote: ↑Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:21 am It's a big ask for England
Saw Gazotti play for the first time the other week. He looks some player
- Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:25 am
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations round 5 - France v England
- Replies: 173
- Views: 3763
Re: 6 Nations round 5 - France v England
Aye, if his loss meant a chance for Roebuck or Murley or whoever then we would be excited to see what happens. Anyway have to agree that performance and intent matters the most here. It's a tricky one but I do believe our traditional kicking game will just invite France to throw massive mutants at u...
- Thu Mar 14, 2024 10:16 am
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: Official U20 Six Nations 2024 Thread
- Replies: 263
- Views: 6953
Re: Official U20 Six Nations 2024 Thread
Someone said there's 190 T14 + ProD2 caps in that team before Tuilagi was added (and he has 3 appearances for the national side already!) Mad stuff To be clear, I think that's an excellent stat. I raise my eyebrows a bit about guys with senior caps playing u20 but the number of club appearances spea...
- Wed Mar 13, 2024 5:50 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Official English Rugby Thread
- Replies: 18279
- Views: 552189
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
It's great innit
- Tue Mar 12, 2024 4:56 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Official English Rugby Thread
- Replies: 18279
- Views: 552189
Re: The Official English Rugby Thread
The kicking off the tee was really quite poor. I was expecting that to come back and bite us. What's Furbank like off the tee, I wonder? We should go back to 15s kicking for goal. Slade is the obvious alternative as he's kicked several pressure kicks for Exeter this season. Yep, he's already taking...
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 9:06 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
Seems very likely that the officials missed Freeman being in touch and a potential clear out that clipped Furlong high. Very unfortunate for Ireland. It doesn't show up in the highlights but I thought during the game that Slade was tackled and then placed the ball, he then regathered it and popped ...
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 7:21 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
Beating the world number 1 team (and outplaying them) ought to cause some self-reflection given the absolute panning this side and their systems have got, even during this game on here. Anyway, time for bed here, going to log off and just enjoy this one, first real ‘fuck yeah’ game in years for Eng...
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 7:20 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
Seems very likely that the officials missed Freeman being in touch and a potential clear out that clipped Furlong high. Very unfortunate for Ireland.
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 7:09 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
And ban Off The Ball?Uncle fester wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 7:07 pm Ex Leinster players need to be locked out of the media in the week leading up to matches.
All in favour, say aye.
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:56 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
Loved everything about that, superb game and a great win. Maybe some humble pie from some of Borthwick’s critics? Nah, England did exactly what everyone had been begging for and threw the game plan England have used for 18 matches under Borthwick away. Full credit to him for coaching them to play l...
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:55 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
Are we pretending Ford didn't have a big hand in how well our attacking game went? Agree on the others, even though Slade also had his best attacking game in ages We need to be ruthless and move on. If Marcus Smith is available he should be starting. MSmith is 25 so will be in his prime over the ne...
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:50 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
I think it was despite, not because of Ford, he just booted the ball after the first 15 mins, reverted to type The first time England started going a little more defensive was on 35 minutes. Don't be stupid. Disagree, it was 20 mins tops Yeah well you're wrong, sorry. And it's not like he wasn't pr...
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:45 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
BOD with the classic "this was good for the competition" coping strategy. We've all been there.
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:44 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
100% Are we pretending Ford didn't have a big hand in how well our attacking game went? Agree on the others, even though Slade also had his best attacking game in ages I think it was despite, not because of Ford, he just booted the ball after the first 15 mins, reverted to type The first time Engla...
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:43 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
Loved everything about that, superb game and a great win. Maybe some humble pie from some of Borthwick’s critics? Nah, England did exactly what everyone had been begging for and threw the game plan England have used for 18 matches under Borthwick away. Full credit to him for coaching them to play l...
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:38 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
Are we pretending Ford didn't have a big hand in how well our attacking game went?
Agree on the others, even though Slade also had his best attacking game in ages
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:35 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
I fucking sat on the remote as that pass came out and didn't see the DG
Thank fuck I didn't have to sit through a very difficult penalty kick!!!! Well done Marcus, and well done England, a fabulous win
Thank fuck I didn't have to sit through a very difficult penalty kick!!!! Well done Marcus, and well done England, a fabulous win
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:28 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
Care has been a real step down, sadly.
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:24 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
That's what, five or six errors in a row by England to hand Ireland that opportunity? Daly's awful kick, Care's poor box kick, Martin utterly failing to catch the ball, Furbank just running into trouble and getting turned over...
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:18 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:15 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
Slade shitting the bed in defence again...
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 6:09 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
Well deserved try for Earl, who really suits this new approach. Good to see Irish cynicism punished fully
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:58 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
No reason not to give Slade the kicking duties at this point.
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:55 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
Great try. Really pleased with the desperation to get the ball out and keep it alive.
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:51 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
Again, any defence that relies on Henry Slade making good decisions is going to concede try after try
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:41 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:40 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
Yeah. For the first time in ages we're going to lose a game but genuinely see how this could be a team with a future.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:35 pm Played well. Didn’t take advantage. Ref seems to have favoured Ireland at the breakdown. Missed 5 kickable points. It’s the hope isn’t it
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:32 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
Yeah I dunno how bad that was by Furbank, was a brutal kick to take and would've been a 50/22.
The blitz defence has coughed up a lot of seemingly soft offsides.
The blitz defence has coughed up a lot of seemingly soft offsides.
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:25 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
Very odd that D'Arcy is talking sense. England have gone into their shells again, after their best thirty minutes of rugby in years
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:15 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - Italy v Scotland
- Replies: 163
- Views: 3612
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - Italy v Scotland
Funny game to watch. Have to say, I don't watch Scottish rugby all that much, but I'm surprised to see so many names on the teamsheet that seem to have been there for years. Jones, Russell, Fagerson, Gilchrist, Turner - all playing some way below their levels of a few years back, and you wonder why...
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:08 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
It was. He was the back foot himself.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:07 pm No commentary but that seems a very very harsh call
Aki has copped a couple of big hits already, great contest
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 5:03 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
The difference it makes when a team's first instinct is to get quick ball and attack through playmakers... Everyone else takes it for granted but it's manna from heaven for England fans
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:51 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
Lovely. Ford did great to make that overlap work.
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:27 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
I think it says a lot about how poor England truly are that Italy looked streets ahead of anything we've produced this tournament even when they were under the cosh in the first half. This should by rights be carnage
- Sat Mar 09, 2024 4:19 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - Italy v Scotland
- Replies: 163
- Views: 3612
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - Italy v Scotland
Funny game to watch. Have to say, I don't watch Scottish rugby all that much, but I'm surprised to see so many names on the teamsheet that seem to have been there for years. Jones, Russell, Fagerson, Gilchrist, Turner - all playing some way below their levels of a few years back, and you wonder why ...
- Fri Mar 08, 2024 9:45 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - Wales v France
- Replies: 56
- Views: 1754
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - Wales v France
Wales are going to fuck them up.
- Thu Mar 07, 2024 9:22 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
Makes sense. They all have experience in turning around huge point deficits
- Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:58 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
- Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:14 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
- Replies: 377
- Views: 7239
Re: 6 Nations Round 4 - England V Ireland
I'm not going to carry on, but I do wonder where you drag my thoughts from, I bloody loved Genge as a player (and a bloke), but he has undoubtedly lost his edge that made him so good. I drag them from, well, your posts on this board. Here are your first mentions of him 2020: Is Genge just one of th...